FIX THE WITCH ALREADY

[Curmudgeon5462]

So I know this has been discussed before, but valve obviously disagrees. Lets just see how many people think the witch is too easy, be serious and think before voting, if you never play on easy, dont vote easy.

[Howler]

If the Tanks a bitch to kill on Expert so should the Witch!

[Curmudgeon5462]

Oh, hard is advanced, whoops.

[SlyOutplayed]

The witch doesn't change difficulty curve except for expert...so why are there 5 options instead of 3? Fine as she is, too easy on anything but expert, too easy on expert.

She ALWAYS has 1000 life, it's just changed in she one hit kills you instead of just incapping on expert.

[PSOLaguna]

If she got buffed then they wouldnt be able to cr0wn her on all difficulties and I doubt theyre going to change her toughness depending on the difficulties either...

[binge]

HOLY CRAP
ITS GOOD THE WAY IT IS

if you see these dumbass trying to oneshot the witch and then fail at it and then get incapped or insta killed by it ..

PRICELESS

[Feels Good Man]

Just remove her completely.

[Funky Biscuits]

I agree with binge

[Bill_the_nonchalant]

Just remove her completely.

Why? She adds a scary element to the game. Kind of pushes the fact that it's a horror game.

Besides, she actually make speedrunners slow the fuck down.

[Feels Good Man]

Because the only purpose she serves in a GOOD TEAM vs GOOD TEAM situation is an opening for the infected to ambush them before they crown her.

But there are two problems.

1.The Witch spawns in a narrow chokepoint where it's hard to do anything.

2.They molotov it and take care of it from a distance, the witch will probably die before you can distract them.

And the witch isn't scary, my first thought is I get to crown her with a autoshotty or pump shotgun.

Always fun.

[PSOLaguna]

if you see these dumbass trying to oneshot the witch and then fail at it and then get incapped or insta killed by it ..

How you can fail that without someone messing you up is beyond me.

[Mooman77]

well the should make it if you walk close to her she auto startles. you can still get crowned with HR

[Shadow]

You made your poll accept up to 4 options so I voted for easy normal hard and expert.

[Chr0n1c]

HOLY CRAP
ITS GOOD THE WAY IT IS

if you see these dumbass trying to oneshot the witch and then fail at it and then get incapped or insta killed by it ..

PRICELESS
Totally agreed. Sometimes the person in your group that is good at Cr0ning the witch doesn't have a shotty, and the witch cant be avoided, things can get interesting. Or sometimes she spawns in a tree and some poor sap shoots her accidentally...

[Feels Good Man]

You don't need an autoshotty to crown her.

Pumpshotgun is possible, AR is possible.

[Curmudgeon5462]

I never said the witch had too much health, just that she was to easy. It is simply not a problem to run into the witch imo, im just seeing how many others think the same.

[Padfoot240]

The Witch serves her purpose. She isn't supposed to be a powerhouse like the tank. The witch is the thing you don't want to accidentally set off.
In a controlled environment(no other enemies nearby) she is an easy kill. But if you get attacked right before you try to crOwn her, chances are a stray bullet will hit her and you get screwed. That is why Infected team on vs usually try to get you to set her off, b/c she will down one of you.

The Witch is a wildcard, not a powerhouse.

[Shrubberyjsc]

I changed 'hard' to 'advanced'.

;)

I think the witch is way too easy.

[binge]

But there are two problems.

1.The Witch spawns in a narrow chokepoint where it's hard to do anything.

2.They molotov it and take care of it from a distance, the witch will probably die before you can distract them.
to 1, you can molotov her
or shoot her from a distance and then all 4 shoot the shit out of her

to 2. , just get a boomer to spawn right behind them, theyll be focusing on the witch
at the same time have hunters and a smoker attack
result instant win or AT LEAST a shitload of damage

[one of them]

Needs to be scarier.

[Feels Good Man]

to 1, you can molotov her
or shoot her from a distance and then all 4 shoot the shit out of her


It wasn't referring on how to deal with it as survivor.

And it's not impossible to aim while boomed.

[Infest0125]

She needs to be harder to kill.

Make there still be a one shot kill for cr0wning her, but she needs more health when up so she can punish the survivor if they mess up attempting to cr0wn her.

Remember you will die, but you can kill her to death?

Now it's just you kill her to death =[

[Avidan]

Not harder to kill, but easier to agro, if a flashlight hits her at all she should go ballistic on the harder levels (and Vs)

[Vindexus]

Not harder to kill, but easier to agro, if a flashlight hits her at all she should go ballistic on the harder levels (and Vs)


I agree. She should be easier to piss off.

[Stubbs]

she needs wings.........

[Cheeseliker]

I said fine the way it is, because thats what I think. As a wise man said, she's a wildcard, not a powerhouse. I like that.

Perhaps making her easier to piss off would be alright.


EDIT: Of course, I heard of this awesome idea of witches that walk around a small area randomly changing direction. Now that would be fucking scary.

[Keptron]

Witch is a bitch ( sorry, but she really is! ). How the hell she do more dmg than a tank in every difficulty? Stupid fail that Valve did was her :|

edit:
EDIT: Of course, I heard of this awesome idea of witches that walk around a small area randomly changing direction. Now that would be fucking scary.
And cool

[l4dfan]

the witch it just fine. she's not supposed to be a second tank.

[Avidan]

Walking witch would be cool, definitely cause some grief with the infected if she wandered about, but taking 3 seconds to stand up is stupid.
If she was really pissed she should just jump straight up.

[Flex]

The Witch is way too easy everywhere. Especially on versus.
I mean, the Tank is something you plan for, or something that may/will change game scores, but, a Witch is something you walk past, like nothing is there to begin with.
The Witch should be strengthened, and more dangerous. Nit as easy to walk past.

[Suman]

She's as easy to kill at easy-expert, leave her the way it is, i agree with Binge and FunkyBiscuits.

[Curmudgeon5462]

I dont know about you guys, but what I think is that one expert, and maybe even advanced she should KICK YOUR ASS if you screw with her, and dont allow her to spawn in a narrow. Im sick of just being able to walk up behind her with an auto shotty and kill her with one shot, I think if you try it you should die. It should take a firing squad to deal with her, and even then, at a distance. Also DEF easier to piss off. She isnt even a big deal at all now. BTW anyone know console commands to make her more difficult?

[DeadlyPlatypus]

z_witch_anger_rate, z_witch_flashlight_range, z_witch_speed, and z_witch_personal_space are some that I change when I want to make the game harder.

[Warhawk]

And the witch isn't scary, my first thought is I get to crown her with a autoshotty or pump shotgun.
same. but sometimes ive had the witch gltich and get blood all over her face from it but it doesn't kill her and it was right beside her and perfect ever since then i fire 2 more shots to be sure.I can do it with pump too

[Infest0125]

The witch is only truly scary when accidently set off and you don't know where the hell she is. Scarier if you don't react fast enough and you're downed.

[Feels Good Man]

Remove Witch in Versus, she's fine for campaign.

[Curmudgeon5462]

Thanks Platypus, that should make things allot more interesting. Any idea what default settings are for that? Any settings you like to use for these?