Should melee-ing the hunter to death be removed?

[Mr KidGittir]

So i was playing with some of my friends like usual, and as we were totally pwning i became the hunter, well since we were winning so badly and all of them were a few feet apart from each other i ran around scratching some of them, well one of them punched me to zoey ....... she punched me to bill ..... he punched me to louis, then i just ran away till they could not catch me, they turned around so i went to scratch them again, SAME MOTHA FUCKIN THING HAPPENED AGAIN! so my thoughts are ....... I THINK you should have to SHOOT the hunter to kill him, NOT punch him till he looses all health at once, Who Agree's?

[JustAnotherRainDog]

it's a legitimate strategy.
attack from behind.
or wait till one of them seperates.
or stop being a little bitch and admit you would do it if you were a survivor.

[Mr KidGittir]

Just Sying, Why The Fuck Not Take Half a Second to Press The Fucking Trigger, Then smack and waste the fucking time.

[Steve Cloud]

Why do people put a third option in a poll thats something like "I think polls suck" all the time?

Also, I'd appreciate it if when making a thread, you give it a title that sums up the thread.

[DangerWillRobinson]

Your maturity level isn't that surprising, especially since you're bitching about a legitimate, AND perfectly fine part of the game. You're seriously considering removing the melee option against the hunter? Dream on.

You're supposed to pounce anyways, complaining that you're using stupid guerrilla tactics and losing is ridiculous. Ever since the hunter swipe damage has been fixed, ninja'ing should be a LAST resort, not your first plan.

[JustAnotherRainDog]

cos meleeing will just extend your torture time.
it is funner, and why are you complaining, either way your dead, if they just hit you you have a chance to get away.

and i think it's because they think it's funny.

[apimon]

be a little more mature when you are making a topic

sorry for the spelling im swedish

[lurk4dead]

Occasionally i take pleasure in slowly beating hunters to death. It helps me feel better about getting pwned in versus all the time.

[Mr KidGittir]

Sorry if you guys think im (Imature) it just pisses me off! Did not think you guys would flip out for someone posting there opinion. i will try not to do that anymore.

[LordBhorak]

I think the topic is misleading now... doesn't the OP mean killing with melee and not just melee? But I think that if it isn't broken, don't fix it.

[Mr KidGittir]

Not Meleeing, Killing With A Melee, Fuck For Brains

[LordBhorak]

inb4lock
Taunting the mods is allways the best method to go with...

[JustAnotherRainDog]

and getting rid of a major part of the game for your benefit would be a good idea how?

[Mr KidGittir]

like i said Not Getting Rid Of Meleeing just killing hunters with melee's

[TheHidden]

There are several ways to circumvent cornercamping melee spammers.

#1) The patched smoker: What? They are ONLY melee spamming? Too bad, now the smoker will get one out.

#2) Some of the survivors do shoot (maybe because s/o just got smokered?) Get a boomer outside of their melee reach into their path of fire, the explosion will not only blind them, it will also stun them shortly. That's the time to pounce (but look at #3).

#3) The combination of #1 and #2 doesn't work for you? No big problem, unless they are in a very small closet (and even then it just takes a better angle) pounce above and behind them aiming for the top part of the wall they are backing into. You will slide down and "land" on one in the back. The "hunter shockwave" will stun them again, and, depending on the location separate them further by pushing them out of the corner allowing the mob and other infected easier access. This works as most survivors aren't meleeing "up".
And if they don't communicate with each other they might not even notice that s/o is slaughered right between them (i've seen it happening more than once).

Again: Teamwork is the key. Cornercamping is far from unbeatable.
And pouncing a meleeing survivor is easiest from behind, and second to that directly from above.

[SteadyEddy]

I generally melee an infected to death if they're annoying me.

However like most things, if I am survivor I couldn't imagine playing without the ability. However if I am an infected I generally find it bullshit if I get melee'd to death. That's the way game is.

[MillionenMarkus]

To clarify things a bit. You guys seem to talk at cross-purposes.
His main point is, that he cant understand, why everybody is slapping the brain out of each hunter (which takes about 3-4 hits if im right) instead of using one well aimed pack of pellets in its head.

Pros:
-The Hunter has no chance to flee and attack again and again.
-Most times its faster than running to your mate and beating up the hunter.
-Most import you can concentrate on the other countless infected instead of kicking the poor hunter for a few seconds.

And I have to say: Yes! He is absolutly right with this conclusion.

But on the ohter hand, there is no reasons why meeleing the hunter should be removed. However killing the hunter as fast as possible should be priority for every suvivor.

[Grieverlionhart]

Taking out the punch is just plain dumb, it's an achievement for starters so it won't be taken out, the hunter has the update which makes it easier to pounce now, I have no trouble getting at the survivors but if you must find a way then just slow down the survivors punch but make it push more

[l4dfan]

dumbest idea ever. kill yourself

[Frito]

I have no words for how wrong you are. Learn to be a better hunter.

[Agent Orange]

Yo dawg straight up, dem bitches be punchin like little girls all da time I be tryin to jump on dem survivas and dey all like just punch me back and shit. Only fuckin bitches be punchin a hunta to stun em and make em easier to kill, fuckin straight up gangstas aughta be wastin ammo shootin em like real men.

[FizixMan]

All the special infected (aside from witch/tank) and normal infected can be killed by several melee strikes. I've done it more than once when I'm conserving ammo or reloading.

I agree, and I usually practice this, that it's typically much more effective to shoot them. But it's certainly not a requirement.

What are you really complaining about here? That other people just weren't finishing you off? It can be frustrating sometimes when, as a survivor, we don't finish hunters off. I know rarely a hunter has gotten away from me in the heat of battle/boomer.

By the way, nice poll. Guess I must be gay.

[Warhawk]

To clarify things a bit. You guys seem to talk at cross-purposes.
His main point is, that he cant understand, why everybody is slapping the brain out of each hunter (which takes about 3-4 hits if im right) instead of using one well aimed pack of pellets in its head.

Pros:
-The Hunter has no chance to flee and attack again and again.
-Most times its faster than running to your mate and beating up the hunter.
-Most import you can concentrate on the other countless infected instead of kicking the poor hunter for a few seconds.
omg retard
-The hunter cannot return and attack again if you killed it with melee
-No it;s not it just takes more hp from your friend unless your far away then you shoot while running to him then melee
-A hunter takes like 8 bullets to kill [in the head] and just 5 melee's to kill
-Hunter usually don't enjoy being shot so they are leaping all over the place and off the walls making it quite hard [i can still shoot it] to take all 250 of it's hp where if it finally comes for you and you melee it as soon as it lands on somebody it's life was wasted, if you sit there shooting it [ive seen hunters take 6 shotgun blasts while on somebody as me] then your friend will take about 10-15 damage and the hunter life will not be a waste. /fail\

[theliberator1]

-A hunter takes like 8 bullets to kill [in the head] and just 5 melee's to kill
whoa 8 shotgun shells to hte head NO WAIY???!!!! hunter is new tank!


tactic - punch, headshot. 2 seconds
cheese - punch punch punch crunch. 5+ seconds.

i can understand wanting to remove the melee killing ability, and honestly a single burast of bullets isnt too hard. but then again i hate corner camping yet still use it if my team does.

it does balance out if you have good teams good pings and good communication.

[Pukemon]

dumbest idea ever. kill yourself
epic post

[Flex]

Of course it should be allowed.
It's lame to spam but if you're alone you need some kind of protection.

[R26]

it's a legitimate strategy.
attack from behind.
or wait till one of them seperates.
or stop being a little bitch and admit you would do it if you were a survivor.

QFT

[UKMD Elmo]

Agreed, QFT.

No need to remove somthing thats nicely balanced

[SlainPwner666]

I usually do it when I am reloading or out of ammo for my primary, and have only one pistol, but I find it quicker and more effective to simply shoot it, and get back to more pressing matters. If you and your team work together, then you can really mess them up. For example, puke on the spammer, and because it takes about 5 swipes to kill 1 infected, they will be occupied. Then, have a smoker pull one out, and pounce the rescuer. Then, have your second hunter just run around meleeing. There. You just did alot of damage to the survivors.

[stev0hazard]

I hate those people that just melee the hunter to death, it seems like they don't even have to try! (Which they obviously don't, to hold LT/Mouse2.) People could at least just melee then shoot if they're going to melee the hunter.

[PSOLaguna]

So i was playing with some of my friends like usual, and as we were totally getting our asses kicked i became the hunter, well since we were losing so badly and all of them were a few feet apart from each other i ran around scratching some of them, well one of them punched me to zoey ....... she punched me to bill ..... he punched me to louis, then i just ran away till they could not catch me, they turned around so i went to scratch them again, SAME MOTHA FUCKIN THING HAPPENED AGAIN! so my thoughts are ....... I THINK you should have to just stand there when Im playing against you so I can have any chance at hitting you Who Agree's?

Corrected.

Im pretty sure this is what the real story is, because I cant honestly believe youd make a post complaining about how youre getting your ass pin balled all over the place and even though youre winning. Youre still compelled to go online and bitch about it.

Punch Like A Bitch - (your Gay If You Choose This!) P.S. (im not kidding)

Then you go and put something like this. That pretty much guarantees that a majority of the people are going to pick it. Simply because you fail so miserably, to present a decent argument that isnt riddled with obscenities.

[Stuffinator]

I voted for "Punch Like A Bitch" and I'm not gay, strange. Maybe because shooting is for pussies and brute force with bare hands for real man!?

Anyway it's fine how it is right now! Sometime it realy pisses me of, when I get punched over and over again, but this just puches me to finaly pounce that bastard and beat him to the death!
And btw. I realy love to punch an incoming hunter and see his dumb face, while he struggles in the air bwahahahahahahahaha.......plz don't change that valve ^^

[Infest0125]

Hey, how about no.

[binge]

I'm gay

Who cares, it's the internet

[SlainPwner666]

Maybe because shooting is for pussies and
I actually did that. We skipped the T2, and when the other called, WDF, I simply said, T2 IS FOR PUSSIES!!!!! RAWR!!!!!!! And we might have made it, if I hadn't crashed in the middle of it. I have to find out if they made it or not

[blackjack452]

Punch Like A Bitch - (your Gay If You Choose This!) P.S. (im not kidding)

Who The Fuck Really Cares About These Poll's?
you know i might have taken your opinion seriously had i not seen these. but now im going to assume that you just had your ass handed to you and need something to blame it on other than the obvious lack of ability to play the game

[The Bottle]

No way should this be removed, it is part of the game. It makes it more realistic, if you pistol-whip something in the face 4 or 5 times then it should take them down. On a survivor note, you may not have a gun in your hand or not have the ammo or may just really want to cave the face in of a particular hunter.

[Funky Biscuits]

(your Gay If You Choose This!) P.S. (im not kidding)
Gay hasn't been an insult since year 7.
Grow up.

[Flex]

I hate those people that just melee the hunter to death, it seems like they don't even have to try! (Which they obviously don't, to hold LT/Mouse2.) People could at least just melee then shoot if they're going to melee the hunter.

So, according to you, there is a difference between being meleed to death, and/or by being shot to death?
Frankly, I dont see the difference, at all.
No offence, but your post doesn't make sense.

[horsedrowner]

Why do people put a third option in a poll thats something like "I think polls suck" all the time?
Why do people make polls where you can select multiple options where obviously only one option is wanted?

[Kisho]

Melee kill = not wasting ammo + no friendly fire. You can melee everything else in the game to death, including tank and witch (not saying you should try, but it IS possible.) Why should the hunter alone be immune?

Get better at playing the hunter, and don't run into the middle of their group. Ever. If they're already being swarmed, then they're going to be meleeing. And if they're just standing somewhere strategizing or whatever, running in and taking a swipe or two is just asking to be smacked around like the bitch you're being.

Besides, you're really getting this livid because you ran in as a joke to mock the survivors, and got your ass smacked around? Suffer.

[Howler]

Your in a zombie apocolypse. You wouldnt stand there and let a Hunter maul you. You'd spam them with freakin punches gawd damnit.

[PSOLaguna]

Why do people make polls where you can select multiple options where obviously only one option is wanted?

Like people dont ask others opinion and get upset when it differs from their own?

[Howler]

People always make a thread telling them that there lil' bitches and cant deal with the stress of not having there way. God damnit, keep it to yourself.

[Keptron]

I did a thread in Steam forums ( long time ago, near of December ) and people liked this opinion:
Pounce dmg 15 or more shouldn't be able to be stopped by melee, why? Did you ever saw someone falling from a high place into someone and be saved by one damn slap and don't even get hurt?

So I voted unfortunately I didn't voted in any of the options available in the poll, since none really fit my thoughts :<

[pokycorn]

If we could'nt melee the hunter it would be all kinds of hell.

[hiryu]

Boo-motherfucking-hoo. Don't rush into a group of survivors next time.

[CrAnKeDHigH]

And if they're just standing somewhere strategizing or whatever, running in and taking a swipe or two is just asking to be smacked around like the bitch you're being.


LOL that is the funniest thing about this. This guy runs in to a crowd of survivors and melee's them with his claws, but when the survivors return the favor, he puts his tampon in and comes here to complain about it.

Fail!

[Small Little P00]

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Always gay-hadoken from me to you baby.

[OrangeCat X]

No.

One of my little pleasures in my old age is getting a hunter pinned in a corner and gun-butting him repeatedly!!! Payback for all those high pounces.

But... when I'm the hunter, I'm mildly amused when this happens to me. They are annoyed at me? I must be doing my job! ^.^

[Rawberry]

I rarely even melee a hunter to death. I mostly just shoot it to death because its faster. But when im trying to save a friend and my gun has no bullets, is the only time I would melee a hunter to death. This only happens when Im trying to get the hunter away while i try to reload, and he happends to die with one of the melee's. If your doing it as your main hunter killing strategy then its gay

[osamabinladenlostkid]

thats a bad idea, killing a hunter to death is a good idea, lets said you are a hunter, and a survivor is meeling and you can't escape from it, and he will meele you a hundred times etc.. you will get mad right??? I would. it will not work. the game is perfect as it is.

[Ace of Knaves]

Get better at playing the hunter, and don't run into the middle of their group. Ever. If they're already being swarmed, then they're going to be meleeing. And if they're just standing somewhere strategizing or whatever, running in and taking a swipe or two is just asking to be smacked around like the bitch you're being.

What this guy said.

[Kenny]

I'm going to go against the norm here and agree with him. I don't think you should be able to melee kill anything in this game.

[CrAnKeDHigH]

I'm going to go against the norm here and agree with him. I don't think you should be able to melee kill anything in this game.


I agree with you. I know its a video game but since when can a push kill you (unless its off a cliff). If melee's are gonna hurt infected then why not the survivors? Im not saying take meleeing out of the game but it shouldnt kill you.

[munkeybanana]

FUCKIN
FUCK
BULLSHIT
Fuck
Bitch

Do you have tourettes?

[hiryu]

I'm going to go against the norm here and agree with him. I don't think you should be able to melee kill anything in this game.
Well, think about it this way: how many times can you withstand taking a hit to the face with the back of a gun? Yeah, you might still be alive after five or so hits, but I doubt you'd be able to do anything except bleed and groan.

Just sayin.

[PSOLaguna]

If melee's are gonna hurt infected then why not the survivors? Im not saying take meleeing out of the game but it shouldnt kill you.

Not to mention think about all the grievers out there that would ping pong a human special infected around to their team mates if he couldnt die from a melee.

[_Omerta_]

scratch them again

You shouldn't be scratching in the first place unless they are close to incap. Otherwise you're just wasting a good 25 pounce dmg/respawn time.

IMO melee system is balanced. Except for the Dice rolls on melee/hunter pounces. Nothing makes me more angry then getting a huge epic pounce and some lucky ass survivor meleeing at impact (even after it makes all the sounds of a landing).

Edit: Also if you're going to call people gay for choosing the obvious poll answer then you're going to have to pay close attention to grammar.

[Kenny]

Well, think about it this way: how many times can you withstand taking a hit to the face with the back of a gun? Yeah, you might still be alive after five or so hits, but I doubt you'd be able to do anything except bleed and groan.

I'm not talking realism here, but gameplay.

[black671]

It's a legitimate part of the game. Take this away, and Valve would have to bend even more rules on melee. Just leave it be.

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[Infest0125]

Okay, first off I hate it when people attempt to bring realism into a game over gameplay, and after playing versus I've changed my mind.

Constant melee, especially when it just winds up killing you, is just plain annoying. You can keep it on regulars, but keep it from the smoker and the hunter. Then it just winds up incredibly annoying.

EDIT: Black, I want your babies!

[DTard]

Black, I want your babies!

You'd better not!

I'll sue for adultery!

OT: I'd keep it the same way.. as pissed off as I get when they get some random melee on me, I know I'd be even more pissed if I couldn't prevent a Hunter from getting me.

[black671]

Black, I want your babies!

ok, just open your mouth...