Computer

[PewPew]

I was thinking of building my own computer but I've never done it before, and I wanted to know if this here set up would work because the only things I know that have to be compatible with all the other stuff are case, motherboard, processor, memory, and graphics card.

Case-
ATX Liquid Case-Black (Power Supply Included)
http://www.atxcases.com/products/productdetails.as p?main_catid=1&catid=5&prodid=468 (http://www.atxcases.com/products/productdetails.asp?main_catid=1&catid=5&prodid=468)
$74.95

Motherboard-
Intel BOXD975XBX2KR LGA 775 Intel 975X ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8 2E16813121059 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813121059)
$214.99

Processor-
Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 Conroe 3.0GHz 4M shared L2 Cache LGA 775 Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8 2E16819115028&Tpk=Intel%2bCore%2b2%2bDuo%2bProcess or%2bE6850 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115028&Tpk=Intel%2bCore%2b2%2bDuo%2bProcessor%2bE6850)
$312.99

Memory-
Kingston 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8 2E16820134488 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820134488)
$109.99

Graphics Card-
ATI 100-437750 Radeon X1650XT 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 CrossFire Supported Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8 2E16814195035 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814195035)
$209.99

Sound Card-
Creative Labs Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio Sound Card
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8014 926&st=sound+card&type=product&id=1156203598151 (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8014926&st=sound+card&type=product&id=1156203598151)
$72.99

Hard Drive-
Western Digital Caviar SE WD1600AAJS 160GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8 2E16822136075 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136075)
$49.99

CD Drive-
Sony NEC Optiarc Black 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM IDE DVD-ROM Drive Model DDU1615/B2s
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8 2E16827101131 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827101131)
$17.99

Total-
$1063.88

Optionals

Mouse-
LX7 Cordless Optical Mouse (Best Buy)
http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/mice_pointers/mi ce/devices/152&cl=us,en (http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/mice_pointers/mice/devices/152&cl=us,en)
$39.99

Keyboard-
Saitek Eclipse II Illuminated Keyboard
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8022 891&st=Keyboard&lp=8&type=product&cp=1&id=11566073 99961 (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8022891&st=Keyboard&lp=8&type=product&cp=1&id=1156607399961)
$69.99

Speakers-
X-140 Speakers
http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/speakers_audio/h ome_pc_speakers/devices/214&cl=us,en (http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/speakers_audio/home_pc_speakers/devices/214&cl=us,en)
$29.99

Monitor-
LG 19" Widescreen Flat-Panel LCD Monitor
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8273 101&type=product&id=1170290765723 (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8273101&type=product&id=1170290765723)
$209.99

Total-
$1413.84

[Zombie Ade]

This look like a job for Teknobry !
But from what I can see it all seems good. I`m a techi , but Teknobry is probably more helpful than me! :P

[Teknobry]

Wow, thats a pretty random spec!

You've thrown money away on crap in some places, and then skimped on vital parts in others!

Ok, with a budget of $1,000 I'd get this:

Motherboard:
GIGABYTE GA-P35C-DS3R LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8 2E16813128048 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128048) -$160.00

Processor:
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz 2 x 4MB L2 Cache LGA 775 Processor $290.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8 2E16819115017 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115017)
Can be overclocked to 3ghz stable (even if you're not into overclocking, hardly need it with 2.4ghz and quad core!)

RAM:
Crucial Ballistix 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - $110.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8 2E16820146565 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146565)

Graphics card:
XFX PVT80GGHF4 GeForce 8800GTS 320MB 320-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported HDCP Video Card - $280.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8 2E16814150171 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150171)
Now, provided you won't be running a resolution higher than 1600x1200, this card is great. Any higher and I'd recommend the 640mb GTS version ($100 more)

Sound card: do you really need one? Personally, on board sound is fine, unless you have some amazing 5:1 dolby home cinema speaker setup going on.

Hard disk:
Western Digital Caviar RE WD1600YS 160GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive -$60 (personally, think about getting two of these) ($120)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8 2E16822136062 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136062)


CD/DVD drive, something like this:
LITE-ON Black 20X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 20X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA DVD Burner - Retail $32.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8 2E16827106057 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106057)

Total: $1001.00 including 2 hard discs! (probably work out very slightly less as I rounded all the prices UP)

As for a mouse, I'd recommend the mx518 (logitech gaming mouse) as thats the one I use :D but its entirely up to you really, read reviews of mice and see what gets good comments.

Keyboard... meh, do you really need an illuminated keyboard?

Monitor... Now there's a can of worms... get reading reviews of them, google 19" monitors and find out what to look for and what to avoid. The one you posted is using 'false' figures, its 2ms response time is measured differently compared to other ones, as is the 3000:1 contrast, but it may still be a good monitor.

[Teknobry]

just realised i forgot the psu, the 520w corsair one rolls in at about 120 dollars and is well worth it. The case itself is down to personal choice.

[USS_Stud]

Just make sure your botherboard/8800 will fit.

[Magicprime]

Cooler Master Ammo 533 Black/Silver ATX Mid-Tower (LINK (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1784272&Sku=C283-1112))
XFX MB-N590ASH9 Motherboard
AMD Athlon 64 FX-62 2.80GHz (like AMD more than Intel - past three comps i built were AMD)
Kingston Hyper X DDR2 PC6400 1024mb x4 (4gb total)
XFX GeForce 8600 GT Fatal1ty 256MB (x2 for SLI)
and 2 Seagate 250MB HDDs

Thats my new Project - I want to go with the 8600 more than the 8800s because A - Im on a budget and B - In about 6months the Next Gen DX10 cards will be out and I wont be so far in the hole from buying 8800GTS that I can buy a midgrade Gen2 and be good.
I'm also saving money by using my old CD-R, DVD, Monitor, Keyboard, etc.

[Halfeatendonkey]

Oh my god thats alot in swedish money...lol O.o

[Plankie]

It would have been MUCH more expensive if it was bought in Sweden, since the prices in Sweden is much higher. If I'd bought a certain graphics card in America, it would cost me about 3900 Swedish KR, and if I bought it in Sweden it would cost about 5600 swedish KR. Same thing applies to clothing, it's more expensive in Sweden. I really need to order stuff from American websites <.<

[BigFinger]

pretty much agree with tecnoby, some good recommendations there.

but.quad core ? no need imho...

duals not even implemented properly yet and wont be for a long time unless your doing cad,vid encoding it makes no sense to go quad unless your after enlarging your e-penis. save your money for some 1066 ram. or spend it on the PSU.

(i run a 6800 quad at work and a 6600 dual at home and i do cad,vid encoding and game as much as i can so i can compare the 2 side by side)


Now.....

OS ?

no need to go vista yet (not till sp1 is out anyway) its the lindsay lohan of operating systems at the moment, pretty but expensive to run and more than a little fucked up. xp does all you need and has loads of backup plus all the drivers you want and it works.do not go XP64 bit... seriously if you want that just put it in your sig but DONT PUT IT ON YOUR MACHINE.its got less support end even less implimentation in games/apps it not worth the hassle. people will try to turn your eye with 'better support for more mem' dont listen ... 2 gig is enough for games.


as for a backlit kb ive got the g15 and i fucking love it... get one...
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[Halfeatendonkey]

It would have been MUCH more expensive if it was bought in Sweden, since the prices in Sweden is much higher. If I'd bought a certain graphics card in America, it would cost me about 3900 Swedish KR, and if I bought it in Sweden it would cost about 5600 swedish KR. Same thing applies to clothing, it's more expensive in Sweden. I really need to order stuff from American websites <.<

5600 Kr..are u sure ? Komplett.se - 8800 Gtx 5100

[Plankie]

yeah, I'm sure. It was one of the asus or XFX 8800GTX 768mb. they are about 5600 kr each.

[Teknobry]

but.quad core ? no need imho...

Simple reasons really, the price is really good, games are now being written to make use of mulitple cores - crysis, bioshock, l4d etc. No harm in future proofing :D

Vista... mixed opinions... its more system intensive than xp, but thats not a problem on a decent spec'd system. You'll need vista to run dx10 games anyway.

I dual boot with xp &amp; vista, my system is mainly used for gaming, and although i get slightly higher FPS with xp, I prefer vista overall. It does depend though what you'll be using the computer for though, as there are quite a few programs/software that have issues with it.

[Plankie]

No harm in future proofing :D

That's a thing I don't understand. Why future proof something that drops in value so fast? That's just stupid. It's better to wait until you really need it and THEN buy it and save lots of money.

[Zombie Ade]

as there are quite a few programs/software that have issues with it.

Yeah, and most of them are video / audio related. By this I mean things like Divx arent fully compatible yet. I had trouble ripping streaming audio from a website ( whereas I had no problem with XP ), I do some DVD converting too, and the software I use for that doesnt work with Vista.
I just havent got round to installing XP for dual booting yet, but every week that passes it becomes more apparent that is the only answer.

I like Vista, just wish it was more compatible.............

[Teknobry]

That's a thing I don't understand. Why future proof something that drops in value so fast? That's just stupid. It's better to wait until you really need it and THEN buy it and save lots of money.


Because the price is cheap enough now to make it a good buy, its useful from the moment its bought and I can't see any reason why it can't be running games at max for the next two years.(this is purely in regard to the quad core processor in the link i posted, I do agree with your point though in most situations)

[PewPew]

Most of the brands you mentioned teknobry I've never heard of. I like ATI more than NVidea. I guess I wouldn't really need a sound card so that would cut off some of the fat. I also won't need a lot of hard drive space. The one I have right now is really small I think. Properties says it's capacity is 37.5G. What I'm really stuck on is motherboard and processor. Right now my processor is 1.8GHz, and I can't really tell the difference from one motherboard to another except for its compatibility with other stuff.

[Teknobry]

Most of the brands you mentioned teknobry I've never heard of.

Erm, mate pretty much all the brands I've mentioned are the dogs b0ll0cks mate. No sh*tty cheap crap, but quality hardware. The fact you've not heard of them could be due to your limited hardware knowledge possibly?

Motherboard choice is vital, buy a crappy one and you'll be limiting yourself alot. The one I've posted is compatible with the new p35 chipset, it can take DDR2 and the new DDR3 RAM, which isn't common yet but will be taking over in the next 12months. Its perfect for overclocking as the bios allows you to alter pretty much everything. In short its a great motherboard that will last years and support future hardware upgrades.

The processor I posted, its damn good, quad core, fast and overclockable.

[Teknobry]

By the way, the nvidea 8800GTS card is a VERY good graphics card, outperforms any other brands equivalent.

[PewPew]

The case comes with power supply should I get a different one?

[Teknobry]

Yep, buy a seperate power supply... this one:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8 2E16817139001 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139001)

then just buy a bare case to put everything in.

[Magicprime]

By the way, the nvidea 8800GTS card is a VERY good graphics card, outperforms any other brands equivalent.


Ofcourse it is, and for the price it damn well better be. Its not some vast revelation of computer knowledge to know that the 8800GTS is a good graphics card - thats like saying &quot;In my opinion Air is the best thing to breathe.&quot;

[Teknobry]

Think you should read into what I was referring to:

I like ATI more than NVidea

I was pointing out, that the nvidea card is better than the equivalent ATI or any other brand card. But thanks for your really useful post...

[PewPew]

I'm having trouble picking out a case now. I want something that looks nice with a side panel, preferrably black, and isn't too expensive, like somewhere below $100.

[PewPew]

I changed some stuff so now I have this written down

Case-
Sunbeam Transformer IC-TR-BA Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8 2E16811166004 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811166004)
$59.99

Power Supply-
CORSAIR CMPSU-520HX ATX12V v2.2 and EPS12V 2.91 520W Power Supply 100 - 240 V UL, CUL, CE, CB, FCC Class B, TUV, CCC, C-tick
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8 2E16817139001 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139001)
$124.99

Motherboard-
GIGABYTE GA-P35C-DS3R LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8 2E16813128048 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128048)
$159.99

Processor-
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz 2 x 4MB L2 Cache LGA 775 Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8 2E16819115017 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115017)
$289.99

Memory-
Kingston 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8 2E16820134488 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820134488)
$109.99

Graphics Card-
XFX PVT80GGHF4 GeForce 8800GTS 320MB 320-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported HDCP Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8 2E16814150171 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150171)
$209.99

Hard Drive-
Western Digital Caviar SE WD1600AAJS 160GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8 2E16822136075 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136075)
$49.99

CD Drive-
Sony NEC Optiarc Black 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM IDE DVD-ROM Drive Model DDU1615/B2s
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8 2E16827101131 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827101131)
$17.99

Total-
$1022.92

[dontleave]

Wow, only a grand, I'd buy that. I think my PC cost a tad more because of the monitor but mine was also only around one grand without it.

[Teknobry]

Spec looks spot on for the price! Are you sure you don't want a CD/DVD writer though?

[BigFinger]

once again

d the new DDR3 RAM, which isn't common yet but will be taking over in the next 12months. Its perfect for overclocking as the bios allows you to alter pretty much everything.

imho (which btw issnt worth shite) im agreeing with tecknobry althoug i would consider the themaltake soprano for a case its under your 100 budget quiet as a mouse and a top case to boot.....myself ? ive got the antek 900, more fans than a cross channel hovercraft noisy as owt but by christ it keeps things cool

if you can pimp yourself round the local bars for a few quid aswell and as you have said your HD space requirements are no that large... spoil yourself... get a raptor. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8 2E16822136011go (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136011go) duo and you could afford it i think ;) ... like Teknobry says its only a small price difference between dual and quad but that money could be spent on the extra rpm which is usable right now... not in the future.

btw...anyone. please feel free to throw stones at anything i have said i dont pretend to know everything :) and its difficult to reccomend things in $ when your used to £


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[Teknobry]

Bigfinger, don't be worried about giving your opinion, if someone disagree's with it they can do so in a nice way :D

I can't get your link to work btw for that raptor drive.

[PewPew]

Are you sure you don't want a CD/DVD writer though?

Forgot about that :P

[BigFinger]

I can't get your link to work btw for that raptor drive.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Sub mit=Suggested&Description=22-136 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=Suggested&Description=22-136)

try that.

im not afraid to give my opinion as you way have noticed ;) just i like to acknowledge that i don't know everything and pc building especially is en emotive and very personal thing.

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[Teknobry]

lol, don't worry, no one on here knows everything when it comes to pc's!

When i click your link, i get the following message:

We apologize for the inconvenience, but the item you are looking for has been deactivated. Here are some similar products that you may wish to consider


Click your link, see what comes up.

[BigFinger]

aye i got the same... odd then it worked yesterday

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8 2E16822136011 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136011)

there... this one works now...

i can vouch for these ie got a pair in raid 0 and bf2 loads a map in 20-25 secs... which if u play bf2 youll know issnt bad a bloody all....

photoshop and premiere pro fly too as does max.

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[Deek]

Thanks, BigFinger. I've been meaning to look into a 10k RPM hdd for my next upgrade.

[Magicprime]

Pretty much all you install on a 10k RPM HDD is your OS and your games. Anything you need kickass read speeds for. Things like Photoshop and MP3s go on your &quot;normal&quot; harddrive that should be close to 250GB. That is how my new computer is going to be - one 10k and 2 250s

[Teknobry]

Personally, I'd rather wait an extra 30 seconds for bf2 to load up than spend $200 on one 150gb hard disk.
Not doubting that its great, but spending 1/5 of an entire pc build budget on one disk it OTT, especially as the money could be spent on CPU and/or GPU, and would have a much greater overall effect.

[Capo Di Tutti Capi]

Cons: Last I checked WD had that highest failure rate out of Segate and the other quality manufacturers.


ur harddirve appears to be faulty, maybe a Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 wud be better, for $10 more, not sure wat u want tho, it sounds like most come in a DOA format (wateva the fuck that is)

also, i at home hv some good cheap speakers, but i nvr use, instead i use he headphone and mic set, instead of spending ur money on a speaker set, just get a $28 headphone and mic, i did, and they're great, unfortunately im not at home atm so wen i can ill tell which 1's i got
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8 2E16822148134 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148134)

[BigFinger]

Cons: Last I checked WD had that highest failure rate out of Segate and the other quality manufacturers.


that may be true ive never had a hard drive fail on me once its up and running ive had 2 or 3 be faulty on delivery (one after the other unusually must have been a fualt in production) and they were all seagate ata'a and that was about 8 years ago. ive been using raptors for my work machines for longer than i can remember now...never had one fail.

but your right that you should look at failure rate when considering anything.


did i mention the have side window in so you can see the little bugger working ? pop em next to your side window and they look well nice.

as for you headphone comments ive got an 11 month old son and the only time i get to game is when he goes to bed and therefore headphones are the way to go to keep the noise down.... ive got a set of medusa'a and im very happy with them. no the best sound quality in the world but very comfy.

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[PewPew]

The link to the video card (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N 8 2E16814150171) doesn't work so should I look for another?

[Teknobry]

That particular offer isn't on anymore, use this one instead:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8 2E16814130082 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130082)

Only $10 more.

[PewPew]

I picked that one out too last night before you responded

[Capo Di Tutti Capi]

Processor-
Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 Conroe 3.0GHz 4M shared L2 Cache LGA 775 Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8) 2E16819115028&Tpk=Intel%2bCore%2b2%2bDuo%2bProcess or%2bE6850
$312.99

u hvnt specified how much money ure willing 2 spend, so im lloking around 4 better stuff then uve got regardless of cost, ur CPU is one of the most important parts of the computer, aso ukll want the best 1 u can get
dunno but also maybe u shud get quad cores?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8 2E16819117044 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117044)

[Teknobry]

u hvnt specified how much money ure willing 2 spend, so im lloking around 4 better stuff then uve got regardless of cost, ur CPU is one of the most important parts of the computer, aso ukll want the best 1 u can get
dunno but also maybe u shud get quad cores?

Maybe you should read the rest of the thread, rather than just the first post....

[PewPew]

I hate bringing this topic back up again, but I'm just looking through all of the stuff to make sure everything works with everything and the mother board info says
&quot;4 x 1.8V DDR2 DIMM sockets supporting up to 8 GB of system memory&quot; and the memory I picked out isn't the right voltage, if it even matters because I don't know. I'm looking on newegg at 1.8v memory and all the prices seem too low to be any good.
I'm also a bit concerned about the case. It sounds pretty loud in this video which I looked up after reading some reviews complaining that it's loud. http://youtube.com/watch?v=eymU4mp9Fh4

[Teknobry]

Which RAM did you pick out? It seems you chose this one:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8 2E16820134117 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820134117)

which is 1.8v. So no problem there.

Can't help you on the case I'm afraid, you're just gonna have to google search to find recommended ones. I'll have a quick scan myself though.

[Teknobry]

This case seems good, gets good reviews and a great price:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8 2E16811146025 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146025)

Review:
http://www.driverheaven.net/reviews/NZXT%20Apollo/ (http://www.driverheaven.net/reviews/NZXT%20Apollo/)

[PewPew]

1.8v. So no problem there.
Doh. I did the guided search on newegg for 1.8V and it didn't come up.

[PewPew]

Would it matter if my OS was XP because the video card is directx 10

[iRelentless]

I'm 90% sure it just means you cant use DX10, but will still work with DX9.

[PewPew]

If I bought some of the stuff on eBay it would cost a bit less, is it reliable and worth it enough to get the stuff from eBay?

Like the 8800GTS
http://cgi.ebay.com/EVGA-e-GeForce-8800GTS-320MB-P CI-E-Video-Card-New_W0QQitemZ120161332671QQihZ002Q QcategoryZ40161QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewIt em (http://cgi.ebay.com/EVGA-e-GeForce-8800GTS-320MB-PCI-E-Video-Card-New_W0QQitemZ120161332671QQihZ002QQcategoryZ40161Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

Bid is $142 so far. I can't find anything wrong with it in the description.