How is it going to play on the 360.

[WolfofWar]

I'm a console gaming, my computers not all that remotely up to date, and I rather play on a comfy couch or on my bed with a controller then on the cold hard perverbial steel of a PC chair and with the archaic keyboard and mouse.

If thats your thing, thats fine.

My only concern now is how the 360 version will play. Those zombies are moving awefully fast, and while its fine for mouse controls, it seems like they havent really put 360 gamers in mind with the design. Is there any word on how theyre accomidating the mechanics of the console controller for this game?

[cush]

If you practice enough with the 360 controller you could probably play this game fine, but I have a feeling that they are either:

A.) Gonna need to slow things down a bit speed wise of the zombies
or
B.) Make the zombies have lower hp and do less damage.

Who knows what they will do, but I think the majority of 360 owners would have trouble using the controller to mow down all those running zombies. But like I said with practice I think you could play this game fine with the 360 controller, but it would require lots of playing probably.

[Puscifer]

omfgroflma they are making the game with pc gamers in mind, not ranting at u or saying ur 360 is shit (it is) but c'mon man....archaic keyboard and mouse....

i realy hope that the first release supports xbox live and pc link up! then lets see how comfy u are with ur noob stick!:) huhuuu

[Puscifer]

and yes i do want to see the end of all over priced consoles and keep all things pc!...glad we cleared that up:)

[dontleave]

Or auto aim, like EVERY 360 shooter to date, zombies already do fall fast, in that preview the guy sprayed and zombies dropped, it wont be too hard. The game wont need to be slowed down at all, if you cant cope it only means you arent very gamer.

P.S, your chair must suck.

[WolfofWar]

Puscifer, if you have nothing to add, add nothing at all.

and cush, thats what I figured they have to do. I would imagine, no matter how much you practice, the usage of a controller just doesnt let you to fire that fast.

[Puscifer]

thats just my opinion by the way, i reckon there will be a crosshair sensitivity option, so if u wack it up full u might kill a couple of zombies loool:)

[Puscifer]

Or auto aim, like EVERY 360 shooter to date that sounds like loads of fun!

[dontleave]

Yes it does... jesus, whats with these people buying 360 for their first console and complaining about how they cant keep up with mouse and keyboards.

1. You can. I know because I have them both and theres barely a difference.
2. YOU CAN PLAY THE THREE SIXTY WITH A MOUSE AND KEYBOARD. Jesus, you pay 400 dollars for a half assed console, buy a game for it and complain it doesnt have a mouse and keyboard. How out of date is your computer? For 400 dollars you could have bought like an X1800 or 7800, that could easily play this game on full settings.

Dont mean to sound agry.

[Puscifer]

ohhh i agree the best things about consoles is the comfort of playing on a couch or lying on a bed, so buying a keyboard and mouse kinda defeats the object. I only play 2 games atm css and wow so using a control pad would be shite. and L4D is the first game ive been exited about for a long time and i reckon that also would be shite using a control pad.

my advice to 360 users is this!

For 400 dollars you could have bought like an X1800 or 7800, that could easily play this game on full settings.

[KashMunni]

lol.. damn i never knew so many ppl had so much hate for consoles
but ah wth i still rather stick with my comp any time but i still like my wii ^.^

[WolfofWar]

See, its not the price, I dont LIKE playing games on a pc. I only like playing strategy games, and sim games ,on my pc.

I like playing on consoles more, its my thing. I dont care about "not keeping up" with a mouse, my only concern is how the 360 version will work. How are they designing the controls. For example, did they work around the inherent limitations of the analog sticks, how does the voice communication hotbuttons work. etc.

[dontleave]

Exactly, so why buy a game spiritually made for PC. You'll know the controls when you get the game. Until then you can guess, considering theres been a dozen games beforehand made for consoles, and dead rising especially for 360. Its not like the 360 will run out of buttons...

Hotbuttons probably work the same in the PC version, you press a button for 360 probably one of the left side buttons, a dpad for ps users... dont know what its called with that. And it brings up a menu, and you can choose what to say.

[WolfofWar]

Because I dont want to pay 800-1000 dollars to upgrade my computer to upgrade my archiac pc?

[Kanelgiffeln]

play L4D on a Xbox 360 ? Amafawkingaawd,i would never EVER play this or any other pc games on a Xbox,Ps,gameboy(lol),psp - anything but a Pc ! Now to the "Answer" i think u can play 360 with mouse and keyboard as dontleave said...i have one myselfe and there is Usb ports on it. but if u choose to play with the stick...fine...but dont count on me coming and crying on ur funeral O.o

[cush]

Maybe they won't even have voice communication hotbuttons. Remember all 360s come with a headset. I wonder if they will just be just using the headset for communication and have simple commands blurted out, such as "Reloading" or "I'm Down." Who knows, but I think it would be hard to scroll while blasting through zombies.

Also, about if you could use a mouse or keyboard. The game has to be designed to use a mouse and keyboard. If the game isn't made for it you can not simply just plug in a mouse and keyboard and start playing Gears of War with it. The game has to be designed to use it.

[dontleave]

Archaic, are you completely senseless. A console is good for games, a PC is good for everything. PC's are our future, consoles have already turned a cheek towards PCism, if you cant see this than you've really dimmed my faith in mankind.

[Puscifer]

i have no idea what the aiming will be like on the 360 version has ive not played any fps's on it.I'll hazard a guess by saying they might slow infected down or add a auto aim feature like the other guy said.

[dontleave]

Aiming isn't bad for 360, I got it on release and it came with Call of Duty 2, the first thing I noticed is how much more responsive and smoothe to felt when I tried it, my friend was over and the first thing he said was "the mouse just got pwned" I chuckled grenaded him while he was camping up the stairs on that egypt map that reminds me of mos eisley from star wars.

Point. its not so bad. definately an improvement from xbox1

[cush]

The 360 controller is definitely good, but I think if you were to play CS and put a team of 360 users in against a team of PC users, the 360 users would get owned every time. Nothing has a faster response time then a 2000 dpi laser mouse :)

[Puscifer]

yep guess ur right, but justice will not be done untill the console market crash's and burns. haha

joke btw

[cush]

Haha, yea I don't think the console market will be crashing and burning anytime soon. M$ may crash and burn as they have yet to make any money in the console market, I believe they lost a lot of money on the first Xbox, but maybe they will make money on the 360. And we all know Sony has been dominating since PSX, but who knows maybe PS3 will flop. I think Nintendo makes money for each console they sell so they will be around for awhile too.

[dontleave]

Especiially with those kids that have thier sensitivity cranked up to 20....

but this is a co-op game, not a game of reflex like CS... they'll be fine without a mouse/kb

[Puscifer]

Nothing has a faster response time then a 2000 dpi laser mouse

i disagree, i bet i have a faster response if u wave a copy of L4D in front of my face! loool

[cush]

LOL, sensitivity at 20 would be insane. I don't think I could handle that.

Would you be going at 10000 dpi Puscifer?? LOL

[Puscifer]

lol on css i can safely own noobs with my mouse sensitivity on 4.0, but might need to turn it up a notch for L4D???:)

[dontleave]

Me too, but its like these guys are on crack, and at 20 everything slows down for them like matrix style gaming.

They need minimal movement from their wrist too, its like a twitch wrist respons game to them. Crazy, my friend does it...

[Puscifer]

no way! sounds like i'm actualy still a noob in training then loool, nah i think css sensitivity will be fine

[Puscifer]

i want L4D, aggrrrrr, ooooooo, eeeeeeee, aggrrrr...mmmm:)

[cush]

I know how you feel Puscifer. And once Summer Break comes, we are just gonna have to sit at home waiting for the game to release. It's going to be a hard summer to wait. But while you wait you should play other zombie games like RE, or Zombie Survival.

[Puscifer]

nah i finished school a long time ago just work i gotta worry about, and seeing the mr's. i'll be playing CSS and WOW till the release day....but then it will be!....omfgroflmao loooool loooooool lol ....Booooom headshot Boooooom Headshot...die zombie muvva fuckazzz! Booooom headshot! huhuuuu

[cush]

I still have 2 weeks of school left :( Finals are gonna suck. After that I'll probably just be playing DOD:S, CS:S, and maybe a new MMORPG. Haven't found one that I like yet.

[dontleave]

I need DOD:S!!! I could buy it now, but I dont want to do it over STEAM (downloads... meh) and I dont wanna go out either...

[cush]

LOL, I love DOD:S. If you played the original DOD it is very similar, but they fixed a lot of the problems. I actually just joined a new clan on DoD the other night :)

[cbre88x]

If you honestly think you can't keep up with anything on screen with a standard console controller..then you should probably stop gaming and do something like..collecting bottle caps or watching grass grow.

[cush]

If you honestly think you can't keep up with anything on screen with a standard console controller..then you should probably stop gaming and do something like..collecting bottle caps or watching grass grow.

Been there done that, unfortunately not too exciting. The only problem with console controllers is the response time is limited compared to a good mouse. I believe a guy with a mouse that is very experienced could blast away more zombies faster than an experienced player with a console controller.

[cbre88x]

You'd be surprised. Personally the only pro for me on a PC is aiming is VERY easy. Turning is a lot easier on a console controller. Then again..I don't have too much online experience with a PC, but I have plenty with consoles. So it all boils down to preference.

I guess I can relate it to the fact I had HL2 for the good 'ole Xbox..and I played the PC version several times. I had a much easier time using the controller than keys and mouse.
Ehwell..I'll still be upgrading my PC for college anyways.

[KashMunni]

it may be easy aiming with a mouse or an xbox control or wut ever but for me the easiest and funnest of all is aiming with a wii-mote

[dontleave]

Lol... WiiMote shakes too much, maybe its my hand...

[Stupoider]

... li3k, z0mg, PC i t3h pwnzor. If they did have auto aim for Xbox 360, that would sort of hint towards PC users being better than Xbox 360...

[dontleave]

They have auto aim for every 360 shooter.

heck, they probably have auto aim for command and conquer 3 for 360.

[Puscifer]

f you honestly think you can't keep up with anything on screen with a standard console controller..then you should probably stop gaming and do something like..collecting bottle caps or watching grass grow.

loool

[Puscifer]

maybe a new MMORPG. Haven't found one that I like yet.

wow is a realy good mmo, i like it anyway! blizzard are good in my books:)

[Rufus]

heck, they probably have auto aim for command and conquer 3 for 360.

They do, actually :)

On topic: I don't think it will be a problem. A person who uses the 360 controller enough can be just as good as someone with a M+K.

[engagequadlaser]

On topic: I don't think it will be a problem. A person who uses the 360 controller enough can be just as good as someone with a M+K.

With this assistance of auto aim. Otherwise, no.

[Puscifer]

whatever i used noob stick for a long time and all i can say is.... playing css with mouse and keyboard (tah shit) is the future...i got nout against 360's but at the end of the day its a co op game! i want ppl watching my back not struggling to watch there own looool

[Rufus]

With this assistance of auto aim. Otherwise, no.
Gotta disagree with you on this one. Granted, you can't turn around as fast with a controller, but that doesn't mean you can only get so good before the controller gets in your way.

[Puscifer]

right on brother, u can only play as good as the tool's ur working with and a stick just isn't gonna cut it in the world of L4D...foo!:)

[Rufus]

right on brother, u can only play as good as the tool's ur working with and a stick just isn't gonna cut it in the world of L4D...foo!:)

Have you ever used a 360 controller? If you had, you'd know that you can get pretty damn good with it. Good enough for L4D? It must be, otherwise they wouldn't release it on the 360!

[Puscifer]

suppose u can??? personaly i prefer mouse n keyboard. Ive played res evil 4, metal gear etc but css and the like demand keyboard n mouse pwnage and i'm shure L4D will. My opinion is this....I am going to love this game on my pc. Ppl are going to love this game on there 360's! thats all there is to it... yeeeee looool booom zombie head shots all round!

[engagequadlaser]

Have you ever used a 360 controller? If you had, you'd know that you can get pretty damn good with it. Good enough for L4D? It must be, otherwise they wouldn't release it on the 360!

I have. The place where a mouse really shines over a joystick is in precision sniping on the fly. Any shot which must be made quickly with any sort of pinpoint accuracy is infinitely more reliable when done with a mouse. The only way the 360 can compete, and I use the term compete loosely, is with the assistance of auto-aim.

When one method requires additional assistance to function nearly as well as another, what does that say about the first method?

[Rufus]

I have. The place where a mouse really shines over a joystick is in precision sniping on the fly. Any shot which must be made quickly with any sort of pinpoint accuracy is infinitely more reliable when done with a mouse. The only way the 360 can compete, and I use the term compete loosely, is with the assistance of auto-aim.

When one method requires additional assistance to function nearly as well as another, what does that say about the first method?

I agree, actually. For FPS, the M+K is better and easier, but that doesn't mean that the controller will be inadequate. M+K will be superior in a game like L4D, but the 360 controller will play just fine.

Speaking of auto-aim, I think that auto-aim will be more of a hindrance than anything else. With something like 40 targets moving around the screen at once, you're going to be shooting at a lot of different things in not a lot of time. If your crosshair is "sticking" to one target and you need to shoot at one that's closer to eating you alive, having auto-aim is going to get in the way. At least you'll be able to turn it off.

[dontleave]

Dude, I snipe headshots on BLACK, a PS2 game, it has worse analog than the 360... Sniping in CoD is easy also. Im starting to get the feeling that you are just being a noob.

I disagree, L4D needs no precision aim or anything... Look at the gameplay vid, he downed 4 infected without even thinking, just shooting into a mob... cmon people?! Seriously, we all know controllers suck. But you dont need it for this game.

[cbre88x]

I snipe in SOCOM: CA...it's actually very easy to get sniper shots with a joystick. The only thing that sucks is the huge recoil you get out of every gun.

I still say the controller is just as good as the M+K. Like I said...it is all personal preference, but we'll never know which is better until we get some 360/PC online action.

I usually turn off auto aim..auto aim is such a bitch in online play.

auto aim= for little sissys and 15 year olds that lack coordination.

[Puscifer]

what u guys have gotta think about is console fps games are generaly single playey where u kill bots, so the reaction speed dosnt need to be there as much as an online fps. pc fps games have been multi player for years with the likes of css, doom, unreal tourny etc etc, because the top games have always come out on pc and the gamers prefer to play on pc.

[jpenguin]

Just to clarify.

1. You can't use a mouse and keyboard on a 360 game. You can plug in a usb keyboard for sending email type messages to other users from it's dahboard/os (and for entering txt info on games, save names etc). Hopefully one day they will give the option.

2. The only comms on the 360 version would be via the headset. Talking to each other. No need to type a load of messages or choose from a drop down menu.

3. Auot aim on all 360 shooters? erm no. Some do in single player or on easy difficulty settings (as some pc shooters do as well) - but ramping the difficulty removes it, as does playing online for the most part.

J

[L4D Zoey Coen]

i could never play a game with keyboard and mouse thats just to difficult for me so 360 would be the way to go for me!!

[Magicprime]

I think the only Next Gen that can handle a decent FPS is the Wii because of its point control.

I have always been an avid supporter of them creating a Mouse/Keyboard type controller for a Console, just a key pad with a dozen or so button on it layed out like the left hand side of a keyboard and a simple mouse.

[dontleave]

i could never play a game with keyboard and mouse thats just to difficult for me so 360 would be the way to go for me!!

Do you feel any shame?

[Magicprime]

Console = Role Playing, Fighting, Platformers, Racing, Sports

PC = Strategy, Simulation, First Person Shooters, Better Role Playing, and Monkies.

[Magicprime]

2. The only comms on the 360 version would be via the headset. Talking to each other. No need to type a load of messages or choose from a drop down menu.


Youre not implying that the PC version won't have voice communication via a headset built in, or that people wont still use wonderful programs like Ventrillo and TeamSpeak?

And besides, the X-Box Live voice-comm sucks ass.

[dontleave]

And besides, the X-Box Live sucks ass.

Omg I know!!!

[Plankie]

It's not that hard to aim in consoles. Actually, I used to be REALLY good at it. I used to play Red Faction 2 for Playstation 2, and honestly, I almost NEVER missed with the sniper. Once you get used to it, it's almost as easy as a mouse.

[dontleave]

Red Faction 2

Awesome game... I keep hoping for a Red Faction 3...


<3 Rail Gun and &quot;mining&quot;

[Etheallmighty]

<div class="quote"><div class="quoting">Quoting: dontleavei could never play a game with keyboard and mouse thats just to difficult for me so 360 would be the way to go for me!!
(pc gamer response) =Do you feel any shame?</div>

PC = First person shooters

first off, they're not gonna change it at all for the 360, it will probably be the exact experience....GOD DAMMIT I&quot;m sorry but u PC gamers on here (not all) have been fucking pissing me off latley on numerous threads, always bringing this shit up. always thinking your sooooooooooo high and mighty and we console gamers couldn't possibly be good at any first person shooters,(&quot;first person shooters on consoles suck&quot; quoting millions of pc gamers) because we use a &quot;noob stick&quot; instead of the allmighty mouse/keyboard.......well they've had something on all 1st person shooters here for a while, and it's in the options menu where it says ADJUST LOOK SENSITIVITY! ......oh yeah, believe it. we console gamers can whip around in circles just as fast as any epileptic PC gamer can these days......


P.S.- guess what, the number one selling FPS was originally sold and is one of the top played online games today=Halo 2......and the number one selling game ever (soontobe) and even moreso outselling ANY movie i've read will be Halo 3, *gasp* an FPS on a console.



and don't just call me just a dumb Halo fanboy, cause i'm not. i'd actually rather have many games than halo 3, like mass effect or ofcourse L4D...........good, i finallly got that outa my system......i don't usually flame.

[Xerosnake90]

Xbox live voice communication sucks? wtf are you talking about? You stick on a headset and talk, it's clear as daylight and no outside sounds are heard. Not to mention you can chose to talk to just a friend alone and all this and that. How does that suck?

And I agree with everything that E said. PC gamers just got pwned cuz a console shooter is the highest selling FPS even over pc shooters.

[dontleave]

To get this straight Halo, or the franchise isn't the best ANYTHING. It is not the best selling FPS... Where do you get this rfom?

[Xerosnake90]

To get this straight Halo, or the franchise isn't the best ANYTHING. It is not the best selling FPS... Where do you get this rfom?

Considering I hate halo I'd agree, but other people may not. Just out of curiousity, what is the best selling fps? And show me the numbers compared to halo =]

[Shroom]

1337 f4nb0yz

jk.

epileptic PC gamer

i dont think epileptic people would be able to play an fps. Dont know why you brought epilepsy - a condition in which people get seizures from flashing lights etc into how fast someone can move their aim in a game.

And I agree with everything that E said. PC gamers just got pwned cuz a console shooter is the highest selling FPS even over pc shooters.

It just happens to be a PC game as well, so calling it a console game is wrong, thats just where it started.

well they've had something on all 1st person shooters here for a while, and it's in the options menu where it says ADJUST LOOK SENSITIVITY

doesent mean you can aim worth a **** :)
jk had to be said.

[dontleave]

Best selling game of all time is one of the Sims, best selling franchise is obviously the Sims, I heard Roller Coaster Tycoon is up there somewhere.

Halo sold 5 million-ish, Halo 2 sold 8 million.... One of the GTAs is 13 million.

Best selling FPS is Goldeneye... both Half life Halo 2 and Goldeneye are in the 8 million range but Goldeneye has the most without hitting 9 million


Edit: NVM The Sims is the THIRD best selling franchise, first is Marion.. *duh*

[Xerosnake90]

It just happens to be a PC game as well, so calling it a console game is wrong, thats just where it started.

LMAO! XD Omg that's the saddest thing I've seen from a pc fanboy. Yea it's a pc game, but it DID come out on console first. And it became FAMOUS because it came out on consoles first.

It's a console game by heart, pc version is the cousin.

doesent mean you can aim worth a **** :)
jk had to be said.

Ignorance at its finest once again. I give up with this fight, pc gamers are complete douchebags and think just because their noob mouse moves faster that they're better.

The sims and GTA aren't FPS. Did goldeneye or half-life 2 sell as many copies as fast as Halo did? Was the online community as large as halo had?

[dontleave]

Ignorance at its finest once again. I give up with this fight, pc gamers are complete douchebags and think just because their noob mouse moves faster that they're better.

Statistcally, we are... That's not to say there is a statistic, but if there was one... We would be.

Not to mention the people disappointed with Halo 2, too bad... Halo:CE sold more than half of Halo 2's latest revenue... It's because Halo 1 was the better game.

Did goldeneye or half-life 2 sell as many copies as fast as Halo did? Was the online community as large as halo had?

Yes and yes. If the online community wasn't as large as it was for the original Half-Life this game wouldn't exist right now. TRS would have never made CS, and so on and so fourth.

[Xerosnake90]

Statistcally, we are... That's not to say there is a statistic, but if there was one... We would be.

You are better, that is right though. At moving a mouse and clicking a button on it.

Really, all the mouse does is enable faster movement and an easier menu system seeing that you can just click and use. But the keyboard is also a retarded system in itself considering the randomly placed keys for objects and games and when there are so many keys it just get annoying.

Yes and yes. If the online community wasn't as large as it was for the original Half-Life this game wouldn't exist right now. TRS would have never made CS, and so on and so fourth.

you know me, I want statistics =]

[dontleave]

But the keyboard is also a retarded system in itself considering the randomly placed keys for objects and games and when there are so many keys it just get annoying.

Random? You don't play enough... everyone knows &quot;R&quot; is the UNIVERSAL key for reload... And people appreciate the number of keys, its why the term &quot;hotkeying&quot; was invented, effectively enabling a user to do tasks much faster than if he had to open a menu, scroll, click, scroll some more etc. etc. Like with a controller. You really need to come up with a better arguement then, &quot;Too many keys are annoying,&quot; I'm pretty sure someone brought that up before and had to wear the retard hat.

first off, they're not gonna change it at all for the 360, it will probably be the exact experience

And wrong, same GAME... very different experience.

Keyboard wasn't designed for gaming, it was designed for all purpose use along with the computer, that in itself makes it superior to a controller. The fact that it can do what a controller can't and also what a controller can do but better and wasn't even specifically made (in most cases) to do said action.

Also it was the first Goldeneye that sold more than Halo 2, without the already established fanbase.

[Shroom]

LMAO! XD Omg that's the saddest thing I've seen from a pc fanboy. Yea it's a pc game, but it DID come out on console first. And it became FAMOUS because it came out on consoles first.

and the fact you are getting so emotional about a thread, brings joy to my heart to see.

Ignorance at its finest once again. I give up with this fight, pc gamers are complete douchebags and think just because their noob mouse moves faster that they're better.

well we win then obviously.

edit: obviously you missed the joke part, however your reaction was priceless.

Did goldeneye or half-life 2 sell as many copies as fast as Halo did? Was the online community as large as halo had?

Halo is the only game you can use for statistics, ironic that the only reason it exists is because microsoft made so much money off their PC franchise they created a console which bungie made a game for.

[Puscifer]

Ignorance at its finest once again. I give up with this fight, pc gamers are complete douchebags and think just because their noob mouse moves faster that they're better.

I don't think so, i know so! lol:P

nah i dont want to get into this argument really but at the end of the day i'd much rather play L4D on my pc then on a console.

[iRelentless]

Why do Console vs. PC wars always break out? We're all gamers, so why can't we just get along?

I prefer PC's but I can see why others with different lifestyles would prefer consoles.

In most cases:
Consoles win for just messing around with friends in multilayer on a single piece of hardware, not needing to worry about if your hardware's compatible with games and ... something else which I cant think of yet because I'm not into console gaming much any more.

PC's win for professional play, game customization and graphical power.
(by professional play I mean large gaming tournaments, etc. I don't mean that PC gamers are any more professional than console gamers in general)

[Shroom]

Why do Console vs. PC wars always break out? We're all gamers, so why can't we just get along?
keeps boredom at bay.

tbh i dont really care, but when someone gets annoyed enough because the damn PC gamers r rippin on a console well i have to laugh :)

edit: also its human nature, if everyone just go along we wouldnt have war, shooting games would not exist, neither would guns, there would be no need. In essence we would be totally defenceless againts anything other than ourselves - of which we wouldnt need to be.

[dontleave]

Console = Role Playing, Fighting, Platformers, Racing, Sports

PC = Strategy, Simulation, First Person Shooters, Better Role Playing, and Monkies.

i could never play a game with keyboard and mouse thats just to difficult for me so 360 would be the way to go for me!!

[Shroom]

we get monkeyz, that = end for consoles.

[iRelentless]

also its human nature, if everyone just go along we wouldnt have war, shooting games would not exist, neither would guns, there would be no need. In essence we would be totally defenceless againts anything other than ourselves - of which we wouldnt need to be.

War between conflicting things (which mostly ends up being religion) I can understand. But war over the tools used to do something?

I've never heard of a jet fighter and a helicopter pilot fighting over the tools they use to fly. But come to think of it, I've never heard of an 8-16 year old pilot with inadequacy issues either... lol.

(not referring to anyone in this thread, referring to the stereotypical &quot;n00b&quot;.)

we get monkeyz, that = end for consoles.

haha

[dontleave]

I've never heard of a jet fighter and a helicopter pilot fighting over the tools they use to fly

Actually you'd be surprised, you should hand around airbases more often, at the least an an airport

You'll see what I mean'

btw- did you make that avatar urself, tis got a nice border around it.

[Shroom]

I've never heard of a jet fighter and a helicopter pilot fighting over the tools they use to fly.
yeh but i bet you it happens

Jet pilots: pfft you noobs dont even fly you hover, go grow some balls.
Heli pilots: Thats not what your mum said last night, OH!

i can see it happening...or rather id find it entertaining to watch and therefore yes...

[iRelentless]

Ok, that was a bad example. lol.

btw- did you make that avatar urself, tis got a nice border around it.
Ye, made it myself from an AC wallpaper. I can send you the .psd if you have a version of photoshop and want to look at the layer styles. I heard gimp could read photoshop files too somewhere.

[dontleave]

Bleh nah, dont want to get into photoshop anymore... I spent a lot of time with it, just making sigs and earning WULs lol.

[L4D Zoey Coen]

Do you feel any shame?
actually yea for not getting used to a keyboard i wish i could. im gonna need help big time lol

[dontleave]

I meant shame for your haphazard reckless topic reviving!

[Etheallmighty]

ya know what's better then the 360 AND the PC, and even in years to come is the OCAMA GAMESPHEW!!!
&quot;we must destroy the evil power....The american government lies to you, join the japanese an help take over the economy today!&quot;



anyone know what that is??? 2 dollhairs shipped for who knows

[Chronos]

Lmfao @ him thinking that a keyboard doesn't have better movement than a controller. All of the keys are chosen by you (less limitations to the user, unlike shitty consoles) and using all 5 of your fingers for movement is highly more efficient then using ONE THUMB and having the rest of your fingers sit idly by on the back of the controller serving no purpose what-so-ever.

Fucking console fanboy knobs.

[hooray for zombies]

ya know what's better then the 360 AND the PC, and even in years to come is the OCAMA GAMESPHEW!!!
&quot;we must destroy the evil power....The american government lies to you, join the japanese an help take over the economy today!&quot;



anyone know what that is??? 2 dollhairs shipped for who knows


south park

money please

[iRelentless]

Fucking console fanboy knobs.

That crap stopped in this thread 2-3 days ago. Don't start it up again...

[hooray for zombies]

just don't respond

&quot;a flame will not burn without fuel&quot;

[28 Weeks later]

when I first read this I thought are you serious because playing l4d on the 360 will be like playing any other fps on it I really dont see how it would be hard to play.

[iRelentless]

Exactly. The only difference in gameplay from the different control methods is how used a person is to one or the other. The original post was regarding the speed of the zombies, which for people who aren't very good with analogue stick aiming could be a problem, but in that case easy mode could be played instead.

[28 Weeks later]

Exactly. The only difference in gameplay from the different control method is how used a person is to one or the other.


Couldn't say it better myself mate

[Etheallmighty]

money please

lol I said DOLL HAIRS!!.....so i just put two out the window, and the winds should carry them to ur house by wednesday at the lastest :)

[raptor]

put it thois way on my normal x-box i can shoot about 15 opponents in like 10 secs and no misses i get the 360 in a month but i prefer my comp i just mastered consoles's better.

[hooray for zombies]

lol I said DOLL HAIRS!!.....so i just put two out the window, and the winds should carry them to ur house by wednesday at the lastest :)

...

I rim out donkeys

My vengeance is silent and swift...

Like the owl

[Etheallmighty]

I don't think i have anything to say to that.....*Slowly lowers head and walks into room closing the door.....

[Nemesis_vs_Leon]

The xbox 360 controller can hook up to a pc you know. At least I heard it can. If it can't, get a cheap adapter thing that lets you hook up console controllers to your computer. If you're still not happy, get a bluetooth adapter, wiimote and nunchuk, and GlovePIE then play with the wiimote!

I vote for playing with the archaic keyboard and mouse.

[Xerosnake90]

Lmfao @ him thinking that a keyboard doesn't have better movement than a controller. All of the keys are chosen by you (less limitations to the user, unlike shitty consoles) and using all 5 of your fingers for movement is highly more efficient then using ONE THUMB and having the rest of your fingers sit idly by on the back of the controller serving no purpose what-so-ever.

Fucking console fanboy knobs.

You're the biggest fucking moron ever, if I knew you in real life and you said that stupid shit I'd smack you the fuck up you stupid ignorant cunt. You are a fucking moron because....

1. Even a standard controller requires the use of at least 2 thumbs in order to operate the movement stick and the aiming stick.

2. Unless you're playing a racing game, which in this case even most of them these days use the triggers in the back, your fingers are almost always being used. And you are most usually only using your thumbs for movement, thumb for face buttons, and your index and middle finger to push the triggers.

Now that I'm done showing you how STUPID you fucking are, I'm sure you'll know the middle finger, which IS used by some when playing with a controller, can also be used to non-verybally speak 2 very effective words expressing many feelings depending on how and when you use it. Such as.....

*Raises his middle finger*

Fuck you, stupid ignorant pc fanboy.

[dontleave]

and using all 5 of your fingers for movement is highly more efficient

No its not... 2 for 5... that's efficiency by definition almost. This is obviously comnig from a guy whos never touched a controller. It CAN BE much more fluid than WASD or arrows. The left analog movement, right analog look is the perfect combination, thinking back on it now it's probably generally better... but then you have your perks with the mouse and keyboard, hotkeying and setting sensitivy to 1000...

But then there are retarded games like CoD2 that have strafe as the shoulder button... wtf was up with that?

[Etheallmighty]

Such as.....

*Raises his middle finger*

Fuck you, stupid ignorant pc fanboy


DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!! !!!!!!!!

[Xerosnake90]

But then there are retarded games like CoD2 that have strafe as the shoulder button... wtf was up with that?

Some game developers made the controls extremely stupid. I love Rainbow Six vegas but I hate how the iron sight button is the analog stick and you need to push it in. They could've easily moved it to the Ltrigger and moved the wall cover to the analog stick instead since that's used less. But whatever.

DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!! !!!!!!!!

That mothafucka pissed me off >.>

[Etheallmighty]

I know this is kinda off topic, but snake so when r u getting your 360 NOW?

[Xerosnake90]

I know this is kinda off topic, but snake so when r u getting your 360 NOW?

Around august 2nd. That's when I get my next paycheck and than I'll get it along with live n' some other shit. I cannot wait for Madden 08. I prolly won't play online much since I suck at that but I'll play superstar n' shit, can't wait for assassin's creed either =] and OBVIOUSLY Left4mothafuckindead!!!!!! WOOOOHOOOOOOOO!!!!