Play Left 4 Dead now, and help me do it

[Nemesis_vs_Leon]

I'm going to start making L4DN again, but this time it will not have god awful graphics and be made in 1 hour. Instead, it will be made in a week. I still don't know how to do the complicated online programming, but I do know AI, so I'll give you something good still.

Features:
-no online :(
-up to 4 people can play on 1 computer :) (hotseat gameplay, yay!)
-ai for human and zombie bots will be good
-ALL bosses, and ALL weapons!
-willing to make any type of level you request

What I need from you:
-top-down view graphics
-I can still make most of them and it'll still look good
-sounds
-by top-down view graphics I mean graphics for players, enemies, the level itself, and even weapons. If you want so much as a trashcan to be in the game, either ask me to make an ok looking one or give me graphics for an awesome looking one.
-I can resize and edit sprites just fine, so give me anything you find!

very important but sad notes:
-there will be no online now or in the future :(
-these notes may stop being sad if someone teaches me how online programming works



---------------------> Help The L4DN Project <--------------------------
I can make the basic game in a week with simple graphics, but if you want true quality, I need your help!

in case you're wondering, L4DN stands for &quot;Left 4 Dead Now&quot; as in this will actually be done in 1 week, no kidding instead of in '08 sometime.

[duckyp]

How about OPLEX NOW?

x]

Looking foward to this. If it does finish.

[Nemesis_vs_Leon]

yay, thanks.

I'll try doing it this week, but the week starts tomorrow, and I'm tired... and I have homework from college :(

Of course I only have one class...

The point is, I'll probably meet my 1 week deadline, but something might happen to make it 2 weeks. However, you can expect it to be done by the middle of September.

[No Shelter]

Its either you guys have a lot of time or you know a website for those.

[Nemesis_vs_Leon]

yes I mean that fry lol

Its either you guys have a lot of time or you know a website for those.
We're just cool :D

[darksora2323]

Forelle wins lawl
I didnt even know what it was from lol

[The One]

We have just officially found a Star Treck nerd. SHUN! SHUN! SHUUUN!

[DJTricky]

Oh noes! Teh Off-topicness!

[Dead Fish]

We have just officially found a Star Treck nerd. SHUN! SHUN! SHUUUN!

It's actually used a lot on 4chan. :) That's the only reason I know it, lol.

[The One]

Lol damn I'm off my game man what the hell.

[Nemesis_vs_Leon]

lol the baby

[Shroom]

http://blog.pbwiki.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/fail.jpg (http://blog.pbwiki.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/fail.jpg)

[Deek]

http://www.lafferty.ca/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/fail-24.jpg (http://www.lafferty.ca/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/fail-24.jpg)

[Nemesis_vs_Leon]

lol, my topic became the fail topic XD

[iRelentless]

Indeed. It started ok but then stopped and sunk.
http://fukung.net/images/4235/Wet%20Cement.jpg (http://fukung.net/images/4235/Wet%20Cement.jpg)

[Plankie]

That yoshi sure looks wasted. Took me a while to realize what the hell it was.

[Graf Irrationale Zahl]

hmmm not enough space ;(

[The One]

A sexy text based chick :D

[Nemesis_vs_Leon]

of course

[Eddy_of_the_dead]

err
thats just horrid
a woman?? looks more like..? err puke dripping of something....
just realy horrid

[Deadly]

no trojan in the game this time i hope, and sorry i havent been on a lot, school ftl :'(

[Nemesis_vs_Leon]

Trojan? The last one's only trojan-like quality was how bad the game was, but that was because I only spent an hour on it, and I didn't consider the design at all. I just tossed it together.

Also, remember people that you're suppose to help me if you can! give me graphics, sounds, and everything you can. I'll do all the design and programming parts myself.

[Deadly]

Trojan? The last one's only trojan-like quality was how bad the game was,
that and panda antivirus deleted the trojan binded to the file

[Nemesis_vs_Leon]

THERE WAS NO TROJAN!!!!! did panda antivirus just delete the game or what!? I don't even know how to make those!!! I just use this: www.gamemaker.nl (http://www.gamemaker.nl) to make my games, and it's a simple game making program not some complicated programming language!!!

DID THE PANDA THINK IT WAS BAMBOO OR SOMETHING AND EAT IT!!!??? HUH!!??
*shoots panda* that's what your antivirus panda gets for saying it was a trojan.

[Nemesis_vs_Leon]

I REALLY need graphics people, so someone make a top-down view sprite of the boss monsters from left 4 dead.

32x32 pixels
if it's slightly bigger than this (boomer), just make the dimensions equal (like 48x48)
make it halfway between cartoony and realistic if you can.

I need all boss monsters! I'm not that good of an artist, so I really need them.

The sooner you get me graphics for them, the sooner this gets done. I take care of ALL the programming and putting together of the game, so all you need to do is give me sounds and graphics to use. IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT IT IS OR HOW IT LOOKS. I can use almost anything you give me, but I need things badly!

Also, stop accusing me of making a trojan! This is only a 2d top-down view shooter that is left 4 dead style until the real left 4 dead comes out. Help me with this, and this project can live up to its name &quot;Left 4 Dead Now&quot;.

[Nemesis_vs_Leon]

If this triple-post is any indication, noone here has any artistic skills, so I'll just finish what I have, but it'll have awful graphics.

If no one replies that they'll either help or they'd like to see this done then squerl and frogopus should just lock this until I finish the whole thing and make a new topic to release it on.

[iRelentless]

I don't have any time to work on stuff, but gameplay > graphics anyway. :D

then squerl and frogopus should just lock this
If you ever want to lock a topic you've posted just click the &quot;Lock topic&quot; link directly under the Post Message button.

btw, if anyone could tell me how to put games online in gamemaker that would help since I'm actually working on L4DN now :D no online because I don't know how to add it, but I want to.
The place in charge of gamemaker would be a good start.

http://www.yoyogames.com/make/tutorials
Second one up from bottom covers:
• Setting up a connection to a different computer
• Creating or joining a game session
• Keeping the games synchronized

[Nemesis_vs_Leon]

actually, I found an online deathmatch engine that works, but it was so very complicated, and you have to track all the data for each client and upload it to the server then back to the clients, but I don't know the commands and stuff....

you see how long that paragraph is? That's how frustrating it was to understand the online stuff ><

I guess I'll use your link anyway and give it a go. Just watch, it'll turn out to be really easy just to give me a reason to kick myself or maybe crowd-surf on the infected(don't do that at home)

I like random generation and AI, so you can expect those to be pretty good in the final version, but before the final version comes expect the zombies to be really stupid.

EDIT: it is now time to kick myself in the head. If you brought a crowd of infected to surf in, anyone, that will also do. That tutorial is perfect which means you can expect online to be in halfway through or so. I still have to read the tutorial and stuff, but that'll take one day maybe, and I understood half of it anyway. HOORAY FOR ONLINE. Also, from what I've read so far, I could easily create a server list just like Steam does with a very simple piece of programming XD

[FireStorm]

So.. When will it be done, so we can try it out..? o:

Can't wait shootin' up some zomboes.. :>

[Plankie]

err
thats just horrid
a woman?? looks more like..? err puke dripping of something....
just realy horrid

Hold CTRL and scroll/press the minus on the numpad to zoom out.

[Armored_Zombie_Cow]

DUDE PLANKIE! THANKS...but anyway! wtf?!?!
thats so odd how putting periods makes it look skin colored...kinda eerie

[Nemesis_vs_Leon]

So.. When will it be done, so we can try it out..? o:
NOW but only in the first verison.

It's actually pretty good this time!

I have a cool animation of the infected burrowing out of the ground when they appear (as an excuse for their randomness of course)

Also, I made an actual city with burning debris, I fixed most of the collision and movement problems, and you start with the pistol and can choose uzi or shotgun at certain points in the level!

Finally, I actually made competent graphics. They're still kind of stupid, but I could work on them more.

Of course, you guys could help by making top-down view graphics for me...HINT

I'll post the link about five to ten minutes after this post. I like the &quot;get it out there&quot; approach if I can manage it. That means that, even when the game was just made, you'll be able to play it. This also means that I'll be releasing things constantly in new versions. Next up is the boomer! Also, those stupid zombies appear in walls sometimes... darn you zombies and your attraction to walls!!! ><

Link: http://www.savefile.com/files/1066323

I forgot to mention that I put in the push attack when you right click and that the help screen pops up right from the start so you can read it and know what to do.

[Nemesis_vs_Leon]

Anyone ready for an update that fixes player movement and changes the player graphics to match his weapon?

[Drizzt]

ME!

[iRelentless]

ME TOO!!!!

update that fixes player movement
Does it fix getting stuck on corners in corridors sometimes?

[PewPew]

I'm too fat for walls!

And I didn't know fyre stops bullets

[Nemesis_vs_Leon]

I fixed all of that already.

NO PLAYER MOVEMENT PROBLEMS ANYMORE.

It's a ton of fun now.

link here: http://www.savefile.com/files/1072728

DARN YOU ZOMBIES AND YOUR ATTRACTION TO WALLS.

Another release this means progress XD
I will mostly fix problems, but next big thing I'll add is the boomer.

Although...

here's a poll to do, vote which boss monster you want to see the most, and I'll put them in first. I'll fix problems and start adding the boomer now, but if I finish the boomer I'll just add in your voted boss next.

btw, I vote witch :D

[PewPew]

The fyre is still impenetrable

Also I thought I saw a couple of zombies doing IT.

[Nemesis_vs_Leon]

The fyre is still impenetrable

Also I thought I saw a couple of zombies doing IT.
I made the fire impenetrable, but I'll change that next time. Right now it's just a placeholder graphic to block you and make the level longer.

About the zombies... that's disturbing. they're attracted to walls, but sometimes two go into a wall at once and get it on.

[Shrubberyjsc]

Good show old chap!

Quite a spot of good fun!

My suggestions:

*More zeds, that take 2 bullets to die.

*WASD for movement.

*An objective line that points in the direction of the flare.

[Nemesis_vs_Leon]

<insert every curse word here>
I actually forgot about this XD

You can expect another release of some kind, probably WITH A BOOMER, on Sunday.
*More zeds, that take 2 bullets to die.

*WASD for movement.

*An objective line that points in the direction of the flare.
You can expect that too.

Although, I'm still trying to make realistic headshots possible, so after they start dying in 2 hits, I'll make it so they can die in 1 with a head shot.

To do for next release:
-Boomer XD
-weaker zombies
-WASD
-remove zombie's attraction to walls ><

http://www.yoyogames.com/games/show/12188

[Shrubberyjsc]

Done yet?

[Nemesis_vs_Leon]

this is why making promises is bad -.-

things can happen to prevent progress.

I have boomer graphics except for one or two things.

I definately want to put the boomer in first.
After that, I want to make his gorey explosion look cool then I'd like to improve the ai a little if I can.

[Nemesis_vs_Leon]

http://www.uploadhut.com/id40227/LEFT4DEAD_now.zip (http://www.uploadhut.com/id40227/LEFT4DEAD_now.zip)

boomer XD

savefile wasn't working, so I had to use this upload site.

the &quot;zeds&quot; take 2 to 4 bullets to die now.
If you shoot more centered on their head it should take 2 hits, but usually it takes 3 or 4.
I wanted to make it so they die fast from headshots, but I still have to make a better headshot system. This works for now.

Which boss should be next?
hunter
smoker (will take longer to make)
tank
witch (I need scary sounds for when she's on the ground)

Soon to come:
-competent headshots
-flashlights and darkness
-all the weapons
-online
-all bosses
-better ai
-good graphics (may come sooner if someone finds them for me...)
-Me not being lazy and actually working on this (maybe)

[Puscifer]

can u show some screens of this, like to take a look at it:)

[Shrubberyjsc]

-online

I thought U said it wouldn't be multi-player?

If it could be that'd be super-cool. ;)

[Nemesis_vs_Leon]

thought U said it wouldn't be multi-player?

If it could be that'd be super-cool. ;)
if it wasn't online, I'd make it split-screen, but I have an online tutorial, and online is easy apparently, so it'll be online, but it will only be online in the last version since I have to actually put in all the game stuff first.

[Timmy]

I think I missed something... What is L4DN?

[Shrubberyjsc]

Cool.

4 survivors?

Survivor Bot AI?

Awards/merits?

FF/Demerits?

[The One]

hahahah I just downloaded it and the bots are doing &quot;IT&quot; hahahahaha omg I fell on my ass laughing so hard! nice by the way, maybe you can give the player a little more &quot;Health&quot;? It seems like you die too quickly

[Nemesis_vs_Leon]

It seems like you die too quickly
don't worry, you die too quickly in the real left 4 dead too :)

At least, you're suppose to for it to be a challenge.

remember the testers only survive 1/3 of the time? So will you.

If you're dying so much, that means I'm on the right track XD
killing you with zombies is fun.Cool.

4 survivors?

Survivor Bot AI?

Awards/merits?

FF/Demerits?
yes to all, but I'm going to make all 4 bosses work with 1 survivor before I get 4 out there. After that, I'll make online, and after that I'll add the Awards and demerits.

Since the hunter and smoker will kill you if you're one survivor alone, I'll let you escape if you tap the push away button rapidly. I'll remove this when the other 3 survivors are there.

Of course, before 4 survivors or online I'll improve the ai of the zombies.

Also, I forgot to tell you, the zombies no longer do &quot;it&quot; when they hang out in the walls anymore.

If fixed the wall problem here:
http://www.uploadhut.com/id40685/LEFT4DEAD_now.zip (http://www.uploadhut.com/id40685/LEFT4DEAD_now.zip)

I made that boomer in no time... I could make the hunter next XD
I might get it done by tomorrow (with bad graphics intact)

also....

I NEED BETTER GRAPHICS I NEED BETTER GRAPHICS I NEED BETTER GRAPHICS I NEED BETTER GRAPHICS I NEED BETTER GRAPHICS I NEED BETTER GRAPHICS I NEED BETTER GRAPHICS I NEED BETTER GRAPHICS I NEED BETTER GRAPHICS

that will be all, thank you for listening, hopefully someone here can help with that part. I know I can't.

I think I missed something... What is L4DN?
One day, Turtle Rock Studios decided to announce a 2008 release date for their game. The next day a slightly peeved fan decided he wanted Left 4 Dead Now (L4DN), so he made it himself and released it before 2008. Then he won the lottery five times in a row and lived happily ever after.

[Shrubberyjsc]

I NEED BETTER GRAPHICS

Don't sweat it, bro.

Seriously, the best part about your game will be playing it with friends, not graphics.

You're doing fine.

Might I suggest a larger damage radius on the boomer's explosion?

And does his vomit attract the horde?

[The One]

I'll help you on the graphics, I can make things look good, and its a small game so it shouldnt be as hard. It would be as easy as soldat. Just like I changed all the guns to look better than the original.

And you should just make it at least &quot;SLIGHTLY&quot; more health. Cause when you try to push away the infected for some reason you still lose health, just a thought.

Oh by the way, what about that one guy that was making an Online Left 4 Dead with 2d people?

[The One]

Oh and is there any way of maybe making this fp? (First Person)

[Nemesis_vs_Leon]

And does his vomit attract the horde?
if you get hit by it, you'll notice. All it really does is raise the tension level a little more so more zombies will attack. Play on hard, and the second a boomer gets you a swarm will appear!

Oh and is there any way of maybe making this fp? (First Person)
The point was to make it a 2d top-down shooter so that I could advertise left 4 dead and spread the word but not truly rival it. Also, I have a fps tutorial for gamemaker, but I'd have to add model support through dlls or make it doom-like with 2d graphics in a 3d world. I want it to stay a top-down shooter.

Since I do more programming than graphics, I might join Dsmid on his css project. I want to just add all 4 bosses and keep it singleplayer with a bunch of levels if I do that because Dsmid's project is already multiplayer, and he just needs to make the bosses.

Although, I could just add the online multiplayer to mine anyway.

New objective:
1st-complete all 4 bosses
2nd-add 3 other players
3rd-put it online

next boss is the hunter, so watch out!

[Shrubberyjsc]

next boss is the hunter, so watch out!

Can't wait!

[Nemesis_vs_Leon]

Can't wait!
I think your constant encouragement is the only thing that keeps me going anyway :D

EDIT: I noticed how unorganized the code was, so I'm completely reorganizing it. This will make it much easier to manage online I'm sure, and it'll help me add bosses more easily and alter the general ai more easily.

Now I'm no longer being lazy with this, so expect it to be done &quot;when it's done...&quot; :D
Of course, it will be sooner than left 4 dead comes out, and I wish I could get it done by the end of this month, that would be awesome.

[Nemesis_vs_Leon]

OOOOOMMMMMMGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

After reorganizing the code in the most perfect way, I CAN NOW ADD ALL THE BOSSES AT ONCE IN A SINGLE DAY!!!!!!!!!! XDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXD XDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXD XDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXD XDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXD XDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXD XDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXD XDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXD XDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXD XDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXD

I still need the graphics, so it will take the entire day, but IT WILL WORK PERFECTLY OMGOMG AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAXDXDXD

The ONLY thing I need now is good sounds and graphics. It will be soooo easy to alter the AI if I need to!

EVERYONE GET ME AWESOME SOUND AND GRAPHICS PLEASE, AND MAKE THIS THE BEST FREE L4D GAME EVER XDXDXD

[Nemesis_vs_Leon]

I JUST ADDED THE HUNTER IN TWO HOURS WITH MINOR DEBUGGING XDXDXD

I CAN ADD ALL THE BOSSES BY TOMORROW!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GIVE ME GRAPHICS XD

I HAVE BETTER SOUNDS AND YOU CAN RIGHT CLICK TO GET THE HUNTER OFF OF YOU (temporary)

Also, the game is now impossible with two bosses in :P, so I'll share a secret that I use for testing the game:

If you hold either Control key, your health will always stay at 100!

You should try to get through without it, but it's VERY helpful.

After I'm done with the bosses, the game will actually be impossible on solo, so I'll make same very basic ai buddies for you. All they will do is follow you and shoot the infected when they see them. After that IT'S ONLINE TIME!!!!!!!

and after that, it's time to make the ai better. Since the game will basically be done, I'll just work on the ai constantly and remove bugs and stuff until the real l4d comes out. This way, it'll always improve in small ways.

Also...
I STILL NEED GRAPHICS!!! Gorgoth, do you think you could get some?

I just triple posted XD what do I win?

Link to hunter version: http://www.uploadhut.com/id45599/LEFT4DEAD_now.zip (http://www.uploadhut.com/id45599/LEFT4DEAD_now.zip)

Link to hunter version with fixes and new &quot;GET TO ZEE CHOPPAH!&quot; text on exit:
http://www.savefile.com/files/1107285

XDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXD XDXDXDXD

I just added a simple menu and changed the level, also I removed the errors involving the hunter, so at this rate I'll be releasing new bosses added on and new fixes every five seconds. Maybe I'll just do that tomorrow.

MORE UPDATES:
http://www.savefile.com/files/1108060

[Nemesis_vs_Leon]

one final QUADRUPLE POST XD

please don't ban...

anyway, just so everyone knows the latest version is awesome now:

http://www.savefile.com/files/1108060

[Shrubberyjsc]

Fun times, except for a few glitches.

Sometimes boomers die right when they spawn, and when I died, it gave an error message.

Do you have plans to include the pipebomb or Molotov?

[Nemesis_vs_Leon]

Do you have plans to include the pipebomb or Molotov?
Oh yeah... that...

I'll add that right away.
Right now I'm just looking for feedback on each release. I noticed that error too, and that'll be fixed.

Remember how I said I can add all the bosses in one day? Well, enough being lazy, that day has come! Remember, that the graphics will be terrible... but the bosses will be there, and I can just make better graphics later anyway.

[Nemesis_vs_Leon]

SMOKER yay XD

he's version 1, so he can only grab you and pull you in. In the future, he'll be able to choke.

download: http://www.savefile.com/files/1117096

Next boss is the Tank! That means I have to add a car and wooden box object so he can hit them and so you can push the box around realistically.

First though I will add a molotov cocktail. That is so much simpler since all it does it set things on fire to damage them gradually.

Also... I have some awesome effects for the smoker's smoke!

about the boomers dying... They're suppose to die if there's already 4 bosses, but if the boomer detects its &quot;being destroyed&quot; then it automatically spawns a bomb object where it was. Easy fix in next release. Maybe I should take Nintendo's approach and tell you nothing while I work then surprise you with something awesome.

[tp500]

Gettin a lot of this when I die:
___________________________________________
ERROR in
action number 1
of Step Event
for object obj_hunter:

Error in code at line 8:
mp_potential_step(mytarget.x,mytarget.y,distance_t o_object(mytarget),0);

at position 30: Unknown variable x

[Shrubberyjsc]

Yeah, I think that's what I got too.

------------

Can the smoker have a longer tongue please?

thanks.

=D

[Nemesis_vs_Leon]

ERROR in
action number 1
of Step Event
for object obj_hunter:

Error in code at line 8:
mp_potential_step(mytarget.x,mytarget.y,distance_t o_object(mytarget),0);

at position 30: Unknown variable x
interesting... I think I just fixed that right after too. It's easy to fix anyway. I'm adding the tank, cars, and wooden boxes for him to hit around. Also, I'm adding a molotov and a longer smoker tongue.

Right after I get the tank done I want the smoker to be able to do this:
If he grabs you and you're on the other side of debris (the little burning stuff) then when he's pulling you in you'll get caught on the debris, and instead of pulling you in, he'll start to choke you.

I noticed in left 4 dead he can only really choke you if he can't pull you in because he's either to far above you or catches the tongue on a corner. If he is able to choke without pulling you in, tell me.

-tank
-cars
-boxes
-molotov
-longer tongue

[Armored_Zombie_Cow]

ius this the game? it says smoker ver1...
is this the game, or a file/patch to the game?

[Nemesis_vs_Leon]

this is the game. That smoker thing just means that the smoker is brand new and pretty simple in version 1. All he does is pull you, he can't even choke yet, but he'll still pull you into zombie hordes at inconvenient times.

[Shrubberyjsc]

Yeah! Boxes/cars to replace funny fire everywhere!

Yay!

=D

Release please!

[Nemesis_vs_Leon]

funny fire everywhere!
Oh, it's still there, but instead of &quot;alleged&quot; rocks supposedly burning, I have actual debris with actual fire effects. Also, I added a cursor, kool cursor-following view, and some better level design.

I'll definately release the tank tomorrow. I have to go to bed right now! I'll add the tank first thing tomorrow, but in the mean time, enjoy the awesome new fire effects and stuff here:

http://www.savefile.com/files/1123434

*faints*
*wakes up and fixes the smoker*
*uploads*

http://www.savefile.com/files/1124846
the smoker had issues, now he doesn't.

Also, I added a special &quot;right click&quot; prompt on-screen when you have to use it to escape something.

[Shrubberyjsc]

Ok, well. The errors are gone. Good on you.

Now, there's a few things a think could use a tune-up.

*More horde less bosses.

*limits for bosses just like L4D has. 1 boomer, 1 smoker, 2 hunters.

*maybe to balance the bosses should have more health, but the horde should have less. 1-2 shots each.

*Frame rate issues. My compy is fairly mainstream, and by level 3, the uzi is firing as slow as the pistol.

I'm thinking you might be able to make this into an MMO. Just maybe. That would be zuper-cool.

[Nemesis_vs_Leon]

I could make it an MMO, but that would take a ton of network code which isn't what I'm good at.

Also, too many special effects = slow game :D

I have to fix stuff now.

Also, TANK. AND CARS. AND WOODEN BOXES.

then later...
GENERIC SODA MACHINES STRAIGHT FROM CSS ZOMBIE MOD YAY!!!!!*limits for bosses just like L4D has. 1 boomer, 1 smoker, 2 hunters.
I completely forgot about that... I just thought it was 4 bosses overall. ok, so I could do that easily. Do you know how it limits the tanks? Is it that the tank appears and then no other bosses are allowed to or is it just 1 tank at a time and he appears rarely?

More horde less bosses.
another easy fix, I just have to adjust some numbers. Also, the game is suppose to be about skill too, so if you get a head shot all the enemies will die really fast, but if you don't, they'll still be there to attack you, and remember that in normal left 4 dead you actually start out with a shotgun or uzi. I think I'll let you start out with those and this give you the AUTO SHOTTY and ASSAULT RIFLE later on in the level. Also, MOLOTOV.

Next release:
-TANK
-CARS AND BOXES
-GENERIC SODA MACHINES YAY!!!!!!!!
-AUTO SHOTTY
-ASSAULT RIFLE
-SURVIVAL HERO MODE (if you right click, you can escape hunter grabs and stuff like that, and you don't get a team, just solo. It's already like this, but now it has a name and will be in the final game.)

A look at the future:
in the future, l4dn will be version 5 and left 4 dead will be released. Also, l4dn will finally have 3d graphics and be an mmo. On a side note, Television will have 5000 channels... but nothing to watch! *evil laughter*

[Armored_Zombie_Cow]

ok i got a few things...
-make the smoker able(and smart enough) to release smoke once during its life before it dies. Also make the smoker smart enough to move closer if the tongue does not reach(which is too short anyway)
-make the boomer's explosion do damage-to u and the zombz
-i noticed that the hunter leaps, but never toward me, only in random locations.
-also, this may be hard, or even impossible, but can u make it so the zombies are smart enough to go around the walls rather than just run into them?

thanks...that might have sounded really mean and demanding but im just saying what i think the game needs to be really cool! otherwise, its cool!
oh, one more thing, does the boomer's vomit actually spawn more zombies or what does it do in this game?

[Nemesis_vs_Leon]

First of all, for anyone just coming in on this:
MOST RECENT VERSION HERE
download:http://www.savefile.com/files/1124846
has the smoker fix.

make it so the zombies are smart enough to go around the walls rather than just run into them
yes, but that's not in the new plan for a while.

make the smoker able(and smart enough) to release smoke once during its life before it dies. Also make the smoker smart enough to move closer if the tongue does not reach(which is too short anyway)
he just shoots his tongue straight for you when you're in range and attempts to pull you in to get mauled by the horde. He only deploys smoke on death until the ai upgrade.

make the boomer's explosion do damage-to u and the zombz
ai upgrade of course but not yet.

hunter leaps, but never toward me, only in random locations
He's actually leaping directly at you but sometimes you're behind a wall, so, being stuck with stupid ai, the hunter runs into the walls. Also, if you right click him in time, his leap will propel him away even faster. And, the randomness is more you dodging him than anything else.

oh, one more thing, does the boomer's vomit actually spawn more zombies or what does it do in this game?
All it does is increase the tension a little bit to make zombies more likeley to appear. The more bits of hack that hit you, the more the tension increases.

&quot;THE PLAN&quot;
first of all, the main plan is to release less often and with more stuff. I'm not going to release with every little bug I fix anymore.

second, since I realize I can actually make this into a great-looking and great-playing fan game to promote Left 4 Dead like I originally wanted, I can finish it XD

thirdly this is how it works...

current version: 0.45
-needs gfx
-needs ai
-current condition = mostly fail

Next Version: 0.48
-Tank
-Action button(doors, pick up weapons)
-cars(toy for tank)
-wooden boxes(toy for tank)
-auto shotty
-assault rifle
-tables
-chairs
-benches
-lite physics(very basic, possibly rotations, probably not)
-doors(use action button to close and lock. A good infected shield.)
-trees(no, the tank can't hit them at you yet)
-grass
-sidewalks
-infected will spawn in waves, not completely random
-correct boss limits (2 hunters, 1 of the others, 2 of the others at finale)
-MORE INFECTED AND LESS BOSSES(for you shrubberyjsc)
-sleep(this is a massive update, I'll be sleeping for a while)

version 0.5
-wouldn't you like to know... I could tell you but it would invovle a gigantic post.

[Shrubberyjsc]

Oh, I know what I wanted!

I wanted for teh horde to spawn away from you, behind stuff you can't get over, and out of sight. Then have them leap over the object you can't get over, (just like in real L4D).

That way it'll be more believable.

[Nemesis_vs_Leon]

oh yeah... I just keep adding to my list of things in version 0.5
version o.48 is set right now, so I'll just add what I listed, but in version 0.5 (when I add the witch), I'll add everything you remember for me.

[Shrubberyjsc]

Cool.

[Nemesis_vs_Leon]

Remember those physics I was going to add?

Well...

I found an entire physics engine made for gamemaker!

I'm going to have ultrarealistic physics for EVERYTHING yay!

The engine I found is set up so perfectly too. All it requires is an extra dll or two to run the complicated physics calculations.

I'm just now adding the physics stuff too, and the tank, so this is perfect!

[Eddy_of_the_dead]

Hold CTRL and scroll/press the minus on the numpad to zoom out.
nope you cant make me!!

[Eddy_of_the_dead]

anny 1 seen the The Seeker jet?
if you havent....dont
it sucks
realy horrid
méh

[Shrubberyjsc]

Aaaanyway, It sounds like you know exactly what to do, Leon.

But the question in my mind is,

When will ur next release be?!

[RyoSaeba]

Hello,
I dowloaded the game (It looks real good when you describe it xD) but when i try to run it i have this error message :
http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/6759/5456lo7.jp g (http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/6759/5456lo7.jpg)
Thanks for your help :)

[Shrubberyjsc]

That's......unexpected....

D=

Sorry I can't be of more help.

LEON!

Get out here and fix this here problem!

=)

[Nemesis_vs_Leon]

oh no.. now what?

Unexpected error XD that's basically saying you're computer can't run it for some reason I think.

The most I can say is redownload. That NEVER happens in my millions of playtests.

Next release... very soon! I have to change the random spawning to wave-based (easy), add physics-driven tables, benches, and other stuff (easy with new physics engine), and I have to add doors (a challenge because the infected have to be smart enough to attack the door, but it won't take much)

I'd say the next release could be tomorrow! I know I could do it by tomorrow, but random stupid things and/or lazyness may prevent that :)

[Shrubberyjsc]

OMG, please release soon. Tomorrow would be great.

I've resorted to playing Zombie Horde 3, and Project Validus.

=/

[Nemesis_vs_Leon]

lol, I don't even know what Project Validus is. (google to the rescue)

I tell you what...

I'll work constantly tonight, and if I keep going I should finish it before midnight is up.

First, I have to get something to drink.

[Shrubberyjsc]

I may be offline in steam, but I am still up and about.

=D

&quot;Are you done yet?&quot;

[The One]

/whispers:**First Person**/

[Shrubberyjsc]

RELEASE?!

PLEASE?!

I'm so effing bored.....

[The One]

............................fps

[Shrubberyjsc]

/whispers:**First Person**/
.fps

Shhhh.

[The One]

Shhhh.
Am I the only one that thinks FPS would be better?

[Shrubberyjsc]

C'mon man, he's programming a 2D game, please don't rub it in his face.

2D games are good too.

I can't wait to play this once it's updated.

Speaking of which....

WHEN IS IT GOING TO BE RELEASED!?

I CWAL!

[Shrubberyjsc]

Have you forgotten, or run outta steam to finish it?

[Nemesis_vs_Leon]

:)

[Cradoc]

*cough* update? *cough*

[Shrubberyjsc]

:)

WHY MUST YOU TORMENT ME?!

[The One]

C'mon man, he's programming a 2D game, please don't rub it in his face.
I'm not rubbing anything to his face, I'm just &quot;SUGGESTING&quot; and no there is nothing wrong with a 2D game, but you can make a 2D FPS >:P

[Nemesis_vs_Leon]

The Witch and Tank are in as well as a new, more intense spawn system. It works much better too since the calm parts are actually calm now.

Also new...

YOU HAVE TO PRESS &quot;E&quot; TO PICK UP WEAPONS AND ITEMS!!!
Point at them with crosshairs and press E to pick them up

press 1 to get the main weapon out
2 to get the pistol
4 to get the medkit

press fire to use the medkit, but it takes time.

final note: this new version is slightly harder, but that's a good thing since soon bots will join you soon (next release)

Go kill the witch:
http://www.savefile.com/files/1158216

:) if you can find out what the smiley face means...

[Shrubberyjsc]

Yay!

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Edit:

Unexpected Error.

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Edit Edit:

It works now, but it's kinda....

ok well, here are my petitions:

*Less horde health

*More cooldown time in between horde swings.

*100 HP max, currently there's no reason to hold onto a medkit.

*main weapons at the start.

*knock-down phase.

[Nemesis_vs_Leon]

*Less horde health or *just main weapons at start?

I'll give you main weapons at start since that'll make it much easier anyway.

Did you see the witch yet? How about the tank hitting cars and stuff?

Also, knock-down phase? What does that mean?

*Less horde health

...

just click directly on a zombie to activate headshot mode.

If you manage to click directly on a zombie, your shots do double damage and he dies easily, even with the pistol. Just keep clicking directly on him. With the machine gun, just click once on the zombie and hold the button down to shoot him.

Of course, there are millions of zombies, so this is hard, but the point is to make it skill-based and to make it so you only survive 1/3 of the time.

If you die 2/3 of the time then I'm on the right track. It's suppose to be hard.

[Shrubberyjsc]

Yeah... I guess.

Also, when are reloads/ Molotov's coming?

Yes I've played against the tank/witch.

I haven't seen him hit a car yet. I'll keep playing.

Ok, I'll try to get headshots.

=)

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Edit:

Just noticed a glitch where you kill the smoker while being pulled, and it never lets you go.

[The One]

fps lol :)

[caboos]

Ok, I'll try to get headshots.
HE IS LIEING HE WONT TRY TO GET HEAD SHOTS! T

[Cradoc]

Dual pistols would be nice :D
New levels would be AMAZING
and less bosses would just be great (haven't played the new ver yet, downloading something else atm)

[sumguy]

kinda dumb, if your hit by a tank and your on or near a wall and hes hitting towards the wall you'll get stuck and he will keep hitting you over and over

[darksora2323]

1906 topic views
nice job leon

[Nemesis_vs_Leon]

Realistic Bullets, Molotov, Pipe Bomb, Safety Room and more kool effects.

Download:
http://www.savefile.com/files/1170241

Now version 0.5, halfway done!

Now comes the better everything part. Better AI, Graphics, Sounds, etc.
Also, extra little additions such as tables, chairs, bushes, and similar things.

I will probably add in the advanced physics again later. They didn't work at first, and I didn't know why, but I do now, so they will be there.

Remember: it's still impossible :D I still need to add AI bots to help.

Oh yeah...
I added better headshots. If you aim directly at the center of an enemy, a headshot indicator starts circling them which means your shots do double damage.

HOLD LEFT CONTROL FOR FULL HEALTH RESTORATION. It even makes you invulnerable to witch attacks. I'll remove this when I add competent AI buddies.

restatement of controls:
WASD to move
1 for main weapon
2 for pistol
3 for molotov or pipe bomb
4 for medkit
E to pick up items
R to reload (which reminds me, I put reloading in)

Look for the green smoke that floats towards you occasionally, it's coming from your destination, the rescue zone marker.

1906 topic views
nice job leon
Oh, it'll rise after this update. Definately.

[Shrubberyjsc]

Sweet.

Looks awesome.

(Any idea on when multiplayer will be functional?)


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Edit:

Wow!

You are really on the right track. It's the little things now. You know: Smoker tongue poisoning you, infected spawning away from where you can see, tank throwing pieces of ground, etc.

I like the Headshot indicator. Could it take a tiny amount more time of you holding steady on their head before you can get a headshot?

A few things could be more true to L4D: 50 rounds in the M16 mag ( I know some don't like it, but L4D is balanced that way), and more than 7 rounds for the pistol.

That and multiplayer (MMO maybe?) Would make this the game that tides me over until L4D.

Good work so far, keep it up!

=D

[sumguy]

OK Great game but you need to slow down the attacks of a tank, i keep getting smacked into a wall and i cant do anything even with the heath cheat (Ctrl)

[Shrubberyjsc]

Yeah, the tank does seem to exasperate the clipping issues.

[PewPew]

Needs some work with reloading.

Edit: Nevermind, I got confused because it took a while to reload (which makes sense) and I thought it just wasn't working at all.

[Shrubberyjsc]

Actually, it could use a tiny touch-up. Currently it takes the same amount of time to load all the shells in a shotgun as it does to just load one.

[gorgoth]

I played the first version, and was fun, even if it looked like shit. Looks as if it's come a long way, it sounds great, good job man d/l now. And a 2D Zombie FPS would be the best game ever.

[gorgoth]

Nice. Ok tell me what programs I need and how to make sprites and I will gladly completely revamp the player model if not everything. I am good at using paint etc to make sprites, so let me help please?

[Nemesis_vs_Leon]

Nice. Ok tell me what programs I need and how to make sprites and I will gladly completely revamp the player model if not everything. I am good at using paint etc to make sprites, so let me help please?
XD

You only need to put it in an image format really. Gamemaker, which I use, supports almost every image and sound format imaginable.

I would prefer all characters (player and enemy) to be in a 64x64 size but have the sprite itself be big enough to fit around 32x32 (except the boomer, he's too fat for 32x32)

If you do the graphics... I'd prefer that you do them according to this priority:

1 player
2 normal infected
3 the environment, backgrounds and walls
4 bosses
5 the environment, extra features (tables, bushes, etc.)

[darksora2323]

interesting
Think I will give it a shot tomorrow or when I have time.
Im a busy man, you know, interviews with TRS Dev's and stuff. I will put in a good word for you leon. :D <(<.<)

[Nemesis_vs_Leon]

:D you do that.

I like the Headshot indicator. Could it take a tiny amount more time of you holding steady on their head before you can get a headshot?
Take more time to get headshots? Only if you're suicidal. Try using the health cheat to get to level 3 then play without the cheat and see if you want it changed then. If it took any longer, the horde would waste you no problem.

Actually, it could use a tiny touch-up. Currently it takes the same amount of time to load all the shells in a shotgun as it does to just load one.
I know, that's because I only put in basic reloading. It reloads clip-style for all weapons. I'm going to put in one-shell-at-a-time reloading of course.

Yeah, the tank does seem to exasperate the clipping issues.
Remember when the zombies used to appear in the walls and sit there humping the walls? The tank is just forcing you to revive an old tradition. XD Anyway, I'll be able to fix that no problem.

That reminds me... I might have to make &quot;stupid AI&quot; in the final release that's optional just so you can laugh at the zombies attacking the wall or bouncing off of things. Maybe the witch can sing instead of scream too.

And yet, every one of you missed the most important part... when you die you're suppose to fall to the ground! I'm going to add that when I add the AI bots because right-clicking and just sitting there when you die is just wrong.

[Shrubberyjsc]

right-clicking and just sitting there when you die is just wrong.

eh?

I thought you just burst into a blood effect...

You mean when the Tank hits you?

[sumguy]

hmm lol these are just small bugs, but in the long run its a GREAT game

[gorgoth]

Do I need to worry about weapon poses and animations? Explain how you have the player sprite working. Should I make like normal, pistol, molotov, etc?

[Nemesis_vs_Leon]

eh?

I thought you just burst into a blood effect...

You mean when the Tank hits you?
when your health reaches 0 you do not die, you fall to the ground and sit there bleeding out for a few seconds or maybe a minute if the infected all die. This is suppose to go in too just like left 4 dead.

Do I need to worry about weapon poses and animations? Explain how you have the player sprite working. Should I make like normal, pistol, molotov, etc?
The player sprite is automatically rotated around in all directions, so just make the sprites facing directly to the right.

How it works is, the guns are just held still while the throw explosives have an actual animation. The guns are a single frame of animation, so all I do is alter where the flashfire will appear. The enemies have a main animation that stays on the first frame for moving around and uses the other frames to animate attacking when the player is in range.

I could always mess around with the animation system since all the basic elements are in. Now is the time to make better graphics, so I might have to modify it a bit to make it better.

In the end, just make top-down view sprites that face directly to the right and according to this list:

Player:
Holding all weapons(pistol, uzi, shotgun, assault rifle, auto shotgun, hunting rifle, medkit, molotov, and pipebomb*cough*dual pistol)

I use a single pushing animation, but it would be nice to have pushing animations for each weapon.

the &quot;disabled&quot; animation. When you're being tongue-choked, claw-slashed, or tank-flown, you animate in the exact same way each time. One animation represents being stunned or helpless somehow, but I should have one for each situation. Idea: The tongue already links to the player, so just make it so there appears to be a tongue wrapped around the players neck in his smoker disabled animation.

Enemies:
All need a still, running and attacking animation.

attacking animations are the special skills for the bosses. The boomer will have his head shaking a little to spray vomit, and the hunter will have the slashing.

The still animation can be one frame of the running animation, but I'd prefer some kind of &quot;swaying&quot; motion or a &quot;breathing&quot; motion when still.

Just make the boss special attack animations match their attacks and they'll be kool.

Kirbies:
Kirbies will not be included in this game, but he rules anyway.

<('.'<)

furthermore, (>'.')> and <(*.*<) and <(^.^)>

happy spriting.

[sumguy]

good ideas

[Zxachk]

So wait. im new here and i dont get whats goin on here. is he making an online zombie game?

[sumguy]

somewhat leon got sick of waiting for L4D so he dicided to make his own little L4D game and he is letting us play it too

[Nemesis_vs_Leon]

yes that's right.

Also, kirby <('.'<)

ok, I'm too obsessed with kirby, I have to put him into the game somehow.

When it's done, look for the easter egg...

[sumguy]

alright thanks for the heads up

[Shrubberyjsc]

So wait. im new here and i dont get whats goin on here. is he making an online zombie game?


I'm hoping he will put in multiplayer, and maybe online, persistent stuff, but mostly multiplayer soon.

[Nemesis_vs_Leon]

I hope he will too.

[darksora2323]

I hope he will too.

rofl

[Shrubberyjsc]

LOL.

[Kazary]

o_O i don't get it. but would be nice for multiplayer as atm i'm getting
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hard and it really sux :<

[Shrubberyjsc]

You do know about God Mode, riiiiiiiight?

[Eddy_of_the_dead]

o
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your not the only 1....

[Kazary]

yeh but you don't play a game just to use god mode xD i did that as a kid and it ruins the gameplay D:

[Shrubberyjsc]

I'll ruin your gameplay!

But in all seriousness, God Mode for this current version is good, because you can see all the details without dying so much.

=)

[Nemesis_vs_Leon]

hooray for god mode! Also, it's time for teammates. I'll get to it now. Also, that fall-to-the-ground style of dying will go in.

The amazing AI of the bots will be able to do this:
-follow you
-pick up weapons that are near them
-use medkits if the action dies down
-get in your way (obviously)
-get out of the way a second later (thank god)
-Natalya mode (remember Natalya from Goldeneye 007? You know, the idiot who would run around in circles directly in your line of fire? Expect imitators in the first incarnation of the AI)
-running backwards when the infected get too close (even bots fear zombies)

Later versions:
-setting priorities (shoot bosses before normal infected, rescue you when in trouble, etc.)
-giving you medkit if your health is low

I wonder what Gorgoth's doing...

[Nemesis_vs_Leon]

ok, since Gorgoth isn't getting graphics like I wanted, I'm going to stop waiting and do stuff.

First, bots to help you! They will only follow you and shoot, and they won't be able to even heal themselves. However, it won't be suicidal in difficulty anymore yay! Also, fall-down-death and the bots will help you up.

[Nemesis_vs_Leon]

I am officially sick of this. I was waiting for Gorgoth's graphics because I can't make ANY GOOD GRAPHICS, but it looks like he disappeared or something. Now I'm just sick of this. I could have actually finished this in mid-october if I was working constantly at it, but my lazyness combined with lack of graphics (GORGOTH HOW COULD YOU!!) means that I'm waaay to sick of this now. I'll feed it to kirby and move on.

L4DN <('O'<)

I want to make a simple anime-style battle game that'll only take a day of constant non-lazy work now. Online stuff is actually pretty simple, so if I put that in I'll maybe post it here. It's mostly just for me to play with friends.

REMEMBER THIS: I WILL MAKE A COMPLETE CAMPAIGN FOR IT FOR ONE FINAL RELEASE. However, it's just going to be level-after-level action until the end helicopter.

[NickThatQuick]

Lol L4d411 Raw says he was going to do graphics for leon, well u guys f'ed up lol.

[Shrubberyjsc]

Lol L4d411 Raw says he was going to do graphics for leon, well u guys f'ed up lol.

Let me guess, you hate L4DN?

Anyway...

I'm sad that L4DN has been 'eaten by kirby'.

Oh well. Good luck in your future apps.

[darksora2323]

Lol L4d411 Raw says he was going to do graphics for leon, well u guys f'ed up lol.
nice way to talk about your self.

[Shrubberyjsc]

nice way to talk about your self.

Nah, the mods can trace IP's. I doubt Rawdog AKA D_smid AKA etc, etc. will ever be able to show up again.

OR WILL HE?!

0.o

[darksora2323]

He is rawdog, frog saw his email which had the name rawdog in it

[Shrubberyjsc]

Interesting.

If this is true, then the mods will give you another chance for every alt you create?

=S

[Nemesis_vs_Leon]

Hi Rawdog. I'm bored.
I'm reading a Calculus book.
Can you guess how bored I am?

I have UT3 now, which is awesome, but now I want to do something else...
I'm sooo.....

BORED

LOOK LINT! MAYBE IT'LL EXPLODE OR SOMETHING!

maybe not...

I'll just read my calculus book now.

[Sifer2]

Haha I think this game is way harder than the actual game will be. The zombies just appear out of the dirt right in front of you. I don't know anything about making games but if there was a way you could code it so they will only appear around corners or down streets that would be better. And I couldn't get the medkit to work. I guess you made it a different button to heal self. Wouldn't matter much though if you die its cause they pop up all around you an full health wont save you haha.

edit: tried it with the ctrl heal self thing an its still impossible. They spawn all around you at the extraction point an pin you in a corner so you cant move. At least the predator reference was funny.

[Eddy_of_the_dead]

coockies!

[gorgoth]

Ok sorry have been away also completely forgot. I will start working on this tomorrow, and I'll make a player sprite holding all weapons. I can't do animations, but I will do the player holding guns/medkits/'nades. Sorry man, I'll actually do it now. :D

[gorgoth]

I am going to make the sprites very large, you can always size 'em down. Also gimme yer email address so I can send 'em. Mine's gorgoth0@gmail.com

[gorgoth]

Triple post, I know I know.

Any preferences for characters? I'm gonna start w/ the vietnam guy probably, but I'll try em all if yah want.

[gorgoth]

Quadruple posts are okay if they're important. I'm going off of this picture for the characters

http://rfonline.ru/news/img/4game/l4d1.jpg

[gorgoth]

Ok so here's the beginning of Bill and I have the pistol as a model to be picked up and being held in both left and right hands. It's a WIP, but feel free to critique. I sure ain't a Picasso, but it's a good start.

http://img510.imageshack.us/my.php?image=billand1911ng9.png (http://img510.imageshack.us/my.php?image=billand1911ng9.png)

Yech, the real deal actually looks better than it hosted. But you get the gist. To see it better, d/l and zoom.

[gorgoth]

W00t Sextiple Post! So also, I think that I can have all this done by maybe the end of this week, maybe next.

[gorgoth]

Also also, I think his shoulders are too pointy. I did this in paint with a mouse so I can't give you real quality stuff, it it's better than the black blobs you were using right?

[gorgoth]

Octople postingness! I just read the rest of this topic and you canceled it I hhte argh hate death despair! Argh, well maybe my new drawings will get you back into an excited state where you want to make the game yeah great woohoo! go Leon go! Mkae the game, make it!

[Nemesis_vs_Leon]

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nice comeback gorgoth!

http://rfonline.ru/news/img/4game/l4d1.jpg
this is a good picture.

http://img510.imageshack.us/my.php?image=billand19 11ng9.png (http://img510.imageshack.us/my.php?image=billand1911ng9.png)
OMG THAT'S AWESOME. I can add particle effects and stuff to make it look better! I don't know if I can do lighting engines well, but I'll try to make one or just find one!

[gorgoth]

Yeah his shoulders are too pointy, gonna work on that. Also ressurected some of my old paint/flash mx work, take a look and tell me if you likey? They may not be in L4D but they are better than the 1911 so I might make them good for it if you want. Post links in a sec.

[gorgoth]

Ok so here they are, my friend did muzzle flash, I can't do that for shit, but I used only a mouse, Flash MX, and paint, and I'm pretty proud. :D

Glock is kinda cartooney, started with it.
http://img147.imageshack.us/my.php?image=glock19il6.png (http://img147.imageshack.us/my.php?image=glock19il6.png)
http://img222.imageshack.us/my.php?image=glock19donexp0.png (http://img222.imageshack.us/my.php?image=glock19donexp0.png)

M9 is way better
http://img128.imageshack.us/my.php?image=berettam9ds8.png (http://img128.imageshack.us/my.php?image=berettam9ds8.png)
http://img147.imageshack.us/my.php?image=berettam9donemp3.png (http://img147.imageshack.us/my.php?image=berettam9donemp3.png)


Also, converting to gif from fla killed it.
Also also, I can have it colored or not, with slide back or not. The combinations are endless!

Hope yeh like!

[Nemesis_vs_Leon]

cool!

but...

this is a top-down shooter, so I could only use those graphics in a weapon list or something...

[gorgoth]

I'm thinking I just put a hand holding it like the 1911 so the gun is being held sideways. Also, they could be the guns you pick up.

[Nemesis_vs_Leon]

guns you pick up
weapon list
two in one, that works!

[Eddy_of_the_dead]

no it does not...

[Shrubberyjsc]

So wait, you're continuing work on this?

=D

[Nemesis_vs_Leon]

maybe...

here's some post-apocalyptic mayhem to keep you occupied:
URL (http://www.youtube.com/swf/l.swf?video_id=ewN2qBXQKXY&eurl=http%3A//www.moddb.com/mods/6577/ground-zero&iurl=http%3A//img.youtube.com/vi/ewN2qBXQKXY/default.jpg&t=OEgsToPDskI2v-hA_YziB_acoQB-nxlR&rel=1&border=0)

[gorgoth]

How does it not work Eddy? Are you saying that the gun on the ground and the gun that shows the gun on the menu can't be the same gun? It'd be kinda odd if it showed a 1911 but then in game it's an M9...but maybe that's just me.

[gorgoth]

Ugh huge policy debate thing this friday saturday, won't be done this week. Still working though :D

[Nemesis_vs_Leon]

no it does not...
the gun will be shrunken down to be put in as a pickup, and if the gun looks realistic like it does already then it'll just look better!

Now it's time for...
Bots!
Online!
The Physics, AI, and Graphics (Gorgoth) upgrade!
All in that order!

[gorgoth]

Heh heh. Progress is present, albeit slow.

[Nemesis_vs_Leon]

Ok, this is just stupid. Forget the bots, I'm adding in Online. I don't know where to start yet, but I have thigns to read and learn from, so I'm getting right on it A.S.A.P.

I'll let you flood the servers with like 10 people(survivors only) at a time at first, but in the future, when I have some kind of real online structure, I'll just make it L4D style with 4 survivors and 4 infected.

Hooray for multiple zoeys!
You ARE making a zoey sprite, right Gorgoth?

[gorgoth]

:D

[caboos]

:D
shore do hope thats a yes

[Shrubberyjsc]

YAY 4 Online!

=D

[Eddy_of_the_dead]

cant wait for l4dnow to go online !

[Nemesis_vs_Leon]

I have found an awesome online engine that is server-based! Someone just runs a server(with the freedom to kick and ban yay!), and others connect through the ip address! It works so well!

If you want to help me test it, just download Kirby Online and connect to the ip address &quot;68.1.37.185&quot; when the game asks for the ip address. Also, remember to find out your own ip address if you want to host a server.

Kirby Online is here:
http://www.savefile.com/files/1238351


People Responsible for this online engine: (because I have to give credit, says the readme)

Credit to 39ster for his 39DLL/Winsock DLL
Credit to Mark Overmars for his chat scripts
Credit to Fox-NL for FoxEngine in the Kirby Online example.
Credit to Toon-Master for helping me out with problems
Credit to Marbs for testing the engine, making the Racer Online example and helping out with the chat commands
Credit to myself (-0NL1N3-) for doing all this :P And making the Kirby Online example

Thank God people are around to make online engines so people don't have to make the whole thing themselves! It even has text chat!

[royo]

yoo do i have to download every thing ????

[sumguy]

it says that the server is down, i think you need to be on for us to be able to test it

[Nemesis_vs_Leon]

oops...

ok, the server is up right now if anyone wants to try it. I'll keep it up the rest of the night.

[Eddy_of_the_dead]

i do not wanna play freaking kirby... wanna pla l4dnow

[Nemesis_vs_Leon]

from some tests and looking things up... apparently, I have to mess with the ip addresses and other things. It's time to make bots...

[gorgoth]

Zoey work will begin and( hopefully) be finished on monday. Along w/ crusty Vietnam dude and shotgun.

[Nemesis_vs_Leon]

crusty Vietnam dude
aka Bill

shotgun.
Bill's favorite weapon is the shotgun :D

[Nemesis_vs_Leon]

hmm...

URL (http://www.savefile.com/files/1278400)

Latest Version

now it has the proper readme, copyright, and help screen.

[Shrubberyjsc]

Okay, well I finally got around to playing this, and I like it a lot.

If you want to, I have a few things you could adjust:

*The horde should punch a little slower.

*The ability to grab the guns in the next checkpoint before it loads a new map and gives you the first tier weapons again.

Also, is multiplayer gonna be in the works?

[DJTricky]

I think in the check points after the first there should the 2nd tier weapons, or have some variable to check which weapons and items you currently have selected and in your inventory so you can keep them after changing checkpoints (using persistant variable objects)

Infact.. if you want I could probably do that myself if I had the source gmk file. On second thought... it looks really complicated, never seen a game that good before.. but I may be able to help out anyway.

Oh yes, and the game is looking FANTASTIC for a gamemaker game. Best i've ever seen... how many levels are there so far?

[A Shiny Potato]

Can somebody post a link that is on something like filefront? Savefile gives me an error and uploadhut gives me only a stupid search bar.

[Pastykid]

are you guys still working on this

or is taking a really long time ??

dont mean to be impatient

[A Shiny Potato]

I sent a message saying I wanna help, but no reply... by the way I got the work to link so nevermind my request.

[Shrubberyjsc]

Yeah, I think NVSL is working on a Halo 3 L4D mod now.

&quot;A tear shed for those lost&quot;

=T

[Pastykid]

NOOOOOOOO O

NOOOOOOOO

N O O O

finish this i wanna see it complete :(

[A Shiny Potato]

Aw, no :(. I really wanted to help make this game. The game its self is really fun to play too.

[darksora2323]

soooooo....its dead?

[A Shiny Potato]

Yup. I got a message from NVSL saying that he and Skeetles were working on something else and so L4DN is dead. Im kinda pissed cause he said I could help and I was like SWEET and I drew a bunch of guns and level designs and everything and then he freaking cancels it. Wtf >:(.

[Goldkills]

well i think he is working on the zombie css server now it is sweet