New Footage Analysis Thread

[Graf Irrationale Zahl]

I would like to start this thread to gather your observations about the new footage, because 3 eyes see more than 2 ;) and so far all your comments are spread into lots of different threads.

Namely these vids:

gamevideos:
gv.com.Left4DeadWarehouse
gv.com.Left4DeadDangerousEscape
gv.com.Left4DeadSubwayOutbreack
gv.com.Left4DeadSewerSurvival

gametrailers:
t_l4d_hosp
t_lef4dead_zombieplay
t_left4dead_warehouse

ign:
left4dead_insanity
left4dead_coverme
left4dead_gross

gamespot:
169_left4dead_pc
169_left4dead_pc2
169_left4dead_pc3
169_left4dead_pc4

I would appreciate, if you write down every change or detail you noticed about gameplay, graphics, sounds, music, infected side, surviver side, a.s.o..

[Chronos]

The lift is gone, there's a truck to now climb up. Infected change with what area you're in (hospital has patients), Hunter's stealth is seen for the first time, first time hearing dynamic music, first time seeing "A Tank hit you with a piece of debris" which you can also see stuns you in place for a moment, you get a demerit for blowing up a boomer in yourself so it isn't just teammates, falling off ledges doesn't work very well (lol, although I gotta say the music is super intense for it).

Think that's about it for right now....

[Graf Irrationale Zahl]

gv.com.Left4DeadWarehouse:
- 'ping' sound every time the player gets a reward or when level ends/starts
- elevator at petrol station replaced by truck, new trucks added on parking lot

gv.com.Left4DeadDangerousEscape:
- Francis gets seperated and is therefore attacked by a mob of zeds
- clipping error while bandaging
- new (?) death animations
- at 2:42 every player gets a reward (for surviving ?)

gv.com.Left4DeadSubwayOutbreack:
- reloading can be interrupted by melee attack (0:49)
- funny comments when switching picking up guns
- liniear map but different ways from A to B (2:40)
- at 4:10 legs can be seen while jumping (and possible while running and looking down)
- beeing in the radius of exploding Boomer causes 'deaf effect'

t_l4d_hosp:
- zeds wearing hospital clothes
- hit by a tank causes message 'a tank hit you with a chunk of debris
- aiming on players shows name and health in %

t_lef4dead_zombieplay
- Hunter message: you are a hunter! You regenerate over time. Right click to leap or push survivors. You can also leap off off walls, and stick to slopes if crouched. Stay still near a wall to fade out of view.
- Hunter has an arrow symbol when ready to leap
- sound of a heartbeat when special attack is not ready
- message when killed: press N to change your preferred class from Random / Press duck for Spectator Menu / You will become a ghost in xx seconds
- as a infected symbols of survivors are: orange for wounded (?), yellow for lightly wounded (?), red for heavily wounded (?), green for healthy (?), a red skull for almost dead, no symbol when survivor is dead (0:59)
- message when ghost: Press DEL to be moved closer to survivors / get ready in 39 seconds
- Boomer message: You are a Boomer. When you die, you will explode violently. Right click to vomit on survivors to make the horde chase them. Vomiting in their face will blind them as well.
- Boomer symbol is a maw, the boomer burps, vomit sound when spitting vomit
- at 0:57 we can see the "Choose a class" menu which shows the hunter on top, followed by the boomer, then comes the smoker and last is random
- Smoker message:You are a smoker.When you die, you turn into a smoke cloud. Right click on survivors to pull themto you with your tongue. You can also cough up a smoke cloud with your alternate weapon.
- Smoker symbol is smoke =), he coughs from time to time

[Punisher 36O]

the lift is gone? why that was awesome :(

[Graf Irrationale Zahl]

hehe I typed so long you have already mentioned the debris thing

[QuotidianTemerity]

falling off ledges doesn't work very well (lol, although I gotta say the music is super intense for it).

Heh, that part made me chuckle.

"Argh, help me, lest I fall to my, err, doom... yes, doom."

[Chronos]

Perhaps links would make this easier.

Also on your note that melee can interrupt reloading I've noticed that you don't need to repeat the entire reloading sequence if you break it with melee. For instance, you put the clip in and then melee. The reloading sequence will just go on from there meaning you won't put a new clip in.

And where is this zombie play video?

[Graf Irrationale Zahl]

And where is this zombie play video?


did anyone notice gametrailers removed the zombie gameplay video? it used to be right here:
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/24560.html?r=1& (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/24560.html?r=1&amp) type=wmv

now when you click the link, it goes to homepage. try searching for zombie gameplay video on google if you don't get what i mean.

i wonder why? the gameplay looked good and everything seemed to be running smooth...



That is why I described it so detailed ;P.

[Graf Irrationale Zahl]

I have it downloaded before it was removed.

[Chronos]

Wow lame.

[A DUCK]

t_lef4dead_zombieplay
- Hunter message: you are a hunter! You regenerate over time. Right click to leap or push survivors. You can also leap off off walls, and stick to slopes if crouched. Stay still near a wall to fade out of view.
- Hunter has an arrow symbol when ready to leap
- sound of a heartbeat when special attack is not ready
- message when killed: press N to change your preferred class from Random / Press duck for Spectator Menu / You will become a ghost in xx seconds
- as a infected symbols of survivors are: orange for wounded (?), yellow for lightly wounded (?), red for heavily wounded (?), green for healthy (?), a red skull for almost dead, no symbol when survivor is dead (0:59)
- message when ghost: Press DEL to be moved closer to survivors / get ready in 39 seconds
- Boomer message: You are a Boomer. When you die, you will explode violently. Right click to vomit on survivors to make the horde chase them. Vomiting in their face will blind them as well.
- Boomer symbol is a maw, the boomer burps, vomit sound when spitting vomit
- at 0:57 we can see the "Choose a class" menu which shows the hunter on top, followed by the boomer, then comes the smoker and last is random
- Smoker message:You are a smoker.When you die, you turn into a smoke cloud. Right click on survivors to pull themto you with your tongue. You can also cough up a smoke cloud with your alternate weapon.
- Smoker symbol is smoke =), he coughs from time to time


I NEVER GOT TO SEE IT ARGH!!! PLEASE POST IT ON YOUTUBE? :D

[Graf Irrationale Zahl]

Wow lame.

I guess TR didn't want it to be out right now because they are going to change a few more things ?!?

I NEVER GOT TO SEE IT ARGH!!! PLEASE POST IT ON YOUTUBE? :D

sure y not but I bet the quality will suck ass ;)

don't know much about youtube, have uploaded it but I guess it takes some time until you can watch it

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[Ydiss]

&quot;Sound of a heartbeat when leap attack isn't ready&quot;

I actually think that's when you get bashed by a player. It stuns you and you hear the heartbeat as an audio cue. This would explain why the leap would not be available.

[darksora2323]

<object width=&quot;425&quot; height=&quot;350&quot;> <param name=&quot;movie&quot; value=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/v/EmSVNTDC4CM&quot;> </param> <embed src=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/v/EmSVNTDC4CM&quot; type=&quot;application/x-shockwave-flash&quot; width=&quot;425&quot; height=&quot;350&quot;> </embed> </object>

wrong link bro

[A DUCK]

doesnt matter if the quality is shit since i havnt seen it yet ;) lol thx btw

[Graf Irrationale Zahl]

wrong link bro


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmSVNTDC4CM

There it is ;).

[Graf Irrationale Zahl]

I actually think that's when you get bashed by a player.

Yeah, you are absolutely right !

[A DUCK]

awesome vid thanks!

[Deek]

The smokers hands look awesome.

I can see why they wanted it removed - the gameplay is still a little sloppy and loose, by the looks of it. But I'm happy to have seen it!

[Xerosnake90]

Gameplay for bosses looks awesome, but it could use some tuning up yea. Can't wait to choke someone out with smoker.

Only thing I didn't like is how the smoker grabbed someone with his tongue and the door closed, so the checkpoint kinda saved him. I wonder if you do that and someone closes a normal door, will your tongue still be attached to them?

[A DUCK]

I wonder if boss infected can close doors.. and even lock them? :) Could lead to some interesting situations. Choking someone through a hole in a door ;).

[dontleave]

Out of boredom and curiosity I looked through the comments on the gamespot L4D page. It must suck for TRS to present such an apparently 'awesome' game, only to have all the credit be given to Valve.

[Sifer2]

In the &quot;Warhouse War&quot; on gamevideos vid at the beggining of the level I noticed the big ammo pile wasn't there. It was just a few clips of SMG, Pistol ammo. And I guess that white can had shotgun shells. Is that on higher difficulty where ammo is more limited? Though I notice he highlighted the whole pile so maybe its just a different graphic for it.

I also guess it was single player cause the others kind of stand around for a while an behave like AI.

[Graf Irrationale Zahl]

I noticed the big ammo pile wasn't there

As far as I remember the ammo in this room was always low, but if you're right then a different difficulty would explain it. I wonder how the difficulty influences the gameplay (less survivor health, more boss-infected health, more Zacks, more Zack-health, less ammo, fewer respawns/more infected respawns etc ...

[TheStrife]

Hunter's stealth is seen for the first time

Theres an older video where you can see it. You see him come out of stealth right before he pounces Bill in the warehouse.

[Graf Irrationale Zahl]

wonder if boss infected can close doors.. and even lock them? :)

I think they are only able to destroy the doors. Maybe closing/opening, but locking would be mean =).

[A DUCK]

but locking would be mean =).

But so very fun as a boomer :) *hint hint*

[Shrubberyjsc]

From some preview I also heard that you can preform a 'use' action to remove the smoker tongue from a teammate's neck.

Me likey.

[Chronos]

From some preview I also heard that you can preform a 'use' action to remove the smoker tongue from a teammate's neck.
I think bashing your teammate who's choking saves them. Kinda funny though.

[Revak]

It might have been like this for a while but from one of the newest videos the outline for survivors has turned white. I think it used to be green. I'm not 100% on this so yar.

[Graf Irrationale Zahl]

think bashing your teammate who's choking saves them. Kinda funny though.

I wonder if bashing can be abused ... every time one commits ff the team-bashing starts and the zeds become confused because of the loss of attention.

[frogopus]

I think bashing your teammate who's choking saves them. Kinda funny though.
I believe this is to reflect the ability to bash the actual tongue.

[Shrubberyjsc]

Wait, frog, is it a bash or a 'use'?

R-click or 'e' ?

[frogopus]

Looks to be bashing. This wasn't implemented when we played (not that I saw, at any rate).

[Shrubberyjsc]

I coulda sworn that there was a new preview article that said it was a 'use'....

w/e I guess it doesn't really matter.

[hooray for zombies]

I coulda sworn that there was a new preview article that said it was a 'use'....


there was, it was either the IGN or the gamespot one, one of the more recent ones anyway, so it could be a newly implanted feature

[basic]

yes, one of them said it required a &quot;lengthy use of the use key&quot; or something like that, but i believe they were referring to getting a survivor back up after being choked. i know you can melee the survivor to knock him free of the tongue, as we've seen that in some vids before

but hey, maybe you can do both?

[Shrubberyjsc]

Yeah, I hope there's a cool animation of the teammate pulling the tongue off or something.

[Deek]

Squerl mentioned how the games looks odd without the HUD ....

Which makes me wonder, is there some kind of an ingame replay system or something? Where you can watch a particular run through from first person perspective, minus the HUD? 'Cause that dude (IGN vids) was playing without a x-hair otherwise, and not doing too poorly.

[tonjohn]

Use key picks up survivors but right click saves them from the infected. In the case of the smoker, I think you are knocking your teammate out of the grasp of the tongue. In the case of the hunter, your knocking the hunter of your mate.

This feature was there at Quakecon and I used it quite a bit.

[Graf Irrationale Zahl]

is there some kind of an ingame replay system or something

I guess its a recorded ingame 'demo' we see. In HL1 and 2 you can record clean 'demos' over console without HUD and crosshair, but I don't know the console command =) (just read this once).

[XThunderNoobX]

It might have been like this for a while but from one of the newest videos the outline for survivors has turned white. I think it used to be green. I'm not 100% on this so yar.

I believe that the survivors see each other with the white outlines, while the infected see the green/yellow/red style colors to identify hurt players to torment. :)

[dontleave]

Squerl mentioned how the games looks odd without the HUD ....

Which makes me wonder, is there some kind of an ingame replay system or something? Where you can watch a particular run through from first person perspective, minus the HUD? 'Cause that dude (IGN vids) was playing without a x-hair otherwise, and not doing too poorly.

Well considering its on source, probably.