Hopefully a beta similar to Team Fortress

[Cool Cat Carl]

I'd gladly pre-purchase Left4Dead if it means getting into a beta. I already did for Orange Box.

[Shrubberyjsc]

I second that.

[Xerosnake90]

I'd be happy with a single player 360 demo. Even if it's just 1 part of a mission.

[Nemesis_vs_Leon]

I would be part of Team Fortress 2 beta right now, but I'm saving my money for Left 4 Dead XD

I'd be happy with a single player 360 demo. Even if it's just 1 part of a mission.
Left 4 Dead is infinitely replayable, so doing that would mean people would buy less! You could actually enjoy the same level over and over forever with this ingenious AI Director in place.

Funny but true.

Although, if the demo was stuck on the hard difficulty, you'd almost never make it through the demo, and you'd have to buy the game to make it fair...
that or they could stick it with easy difficulty and tell you that buying the full game would let you see the witch boss as well as the rest of this chapter and the other chapters.

[basic]

shit even if they just let me load it up and look at the main menu i'd be happy

[Plankie]

Left 4 Dead is infinitely replayable

To be honest, I don't believe that's true. I mean, even if the enemies pop up at different locations doesn't mean you won't get tired of it. You'll still kill the same kind of infected over and over again, in the same maps. You can get tired of any multiplayer game, and they don't always play out the same.

[engagequadlaser]

To be honest, I don't believe that's true. I mean, even if the enemies pop up at different locations doesn't mean you won't get tired of it. You'll still kill the same kind of infected over and over again, in the same maps. You can get tired of any multiplayer game, and they don't always play out the same.

When people say infinitely replayable, they don't mean that you'll keep playing the game forever. If they did, no game would be infinitely replayable. They simply refer to the fact that each game promises to offer a new experience each time due to inherent randomness of the system.

[Deek]

Counter-strike, for instance, is infinitely replayable, despite being, in terms of gameplay, the same thing over and over and over, round after round.

[Nemesis_vs_Leon]

Counter-strike, for instance, is infinitely replayable, despite being, in terms of gameplay, the same thing over and over and over, round after round.
Yeah, I thought of cs when I said infinite replayablility. Although, even that game gets boring after a while.

The only game that has real infinite replay value is super smash bros. I can still play the original n64 version emulated with friends, and it's just as fun as it ever was. That's the only game that seems truly infinitely replayable even if it is just me liking fighting games more than fps'.

[Deek]

I suppose anything will get boring if you play it enough.

I've been on a break from CoH online. It's an amazing game, but I played it to death. Matches on a given map are often similar, but never the same. I've been away for almost two months, and I'm starting to get the itch again ...

[Chronos]

Left 4 Dead is infinitely replayable, so doing that would mean people would buy less!
pre-purchase Left4Dead

Good going.
I'd be happy with a single player 360 demo.
No.

[Plankie]

They simply refer to the fact that each game promises to offer a new experience each time due to inherent randomness of the system.


Yes, but what I meant was that it WON'T be a new experience only because the enemies come from another place. Only because the same things plays out a bit different doesn't make it a new experience, or nothing new at all. Of course it'll be a "new" experience over and over again the first few times you play, but after a couple of months it'll be all the same.
And actually Mike Booth said "you could play this game forever".

[engagequadlaser]

Yes, but what I meant was that it WON'T be a new experience only because the enemies come from another place. Only because the same things plays out a bit different doesn't make it a new experience, or nothing new at all. Of course it'll be a "new" experience over and over again the first few times you play, but after a couple of months it'll be all the same.
And actually Mike Booth said "you could play this game forever".


Then by your definition, infinite replayability doesn't exist.

[Deek]

And actually Mike Booth said "you could play this game forever".
You could, because no two matches will "be all the same." Because the Infected are spawned dynamically, and because there is a human opponent to be had in boss Infected, and therefore dynamic human thought process and metagame to be considered, no two games of L4D will ever be identicle. There will be similarites, of course, but that is unavoidable, even in life.

Soccer games are inherently similar, two teams face off and try to put the ball in the net, same set of rules, same field dimensions, same number of players and positions, but no two games are ever identicle ... and hence the game of soccer is infinitely replayable. After watching several soccer matches, or baseball games, seeing someone score a goal or hit a homerun is no longer a "new" experience, but it's always unique. The same could be said of all sports, and I believe Mike B has compared L4D to a sporting event ... "can my team survive this time?"

[basic]

Soccer games are inherently similar, two teams face off and try to put the ball in the net, same set of rules, same field dimensions, same number of players and positions, but no two games are ever identicle ... and hence the game of soccer is infinitely replayable. After watching several soccer matches, or baseball games, seeing someone score a goal or hit a homerun is no longer a "new" experience, but it's always unique. The same could be said of all sports, and I believe Mike B has compared L4D to a sporting event ... "can my team survive this time?"

so true. no matter how many times you watch a sport, you still get the OH SHIT moments when something crazy happens or someone pulls of a miracle shot. L4D will be no different.