The Smoker - Wtf happened?

[one of them]

I noticed that they took away the feature where you couldn't melee a person being tounged until he stopped getting dragged. I didn't see it in any release notes. Did it change with the new Melee Fatigue or what?
I liked that aspect, then the smoker wasn't so underpowered.
And yes, I tried it in Versus.

[btw, if this thread already exists please don't be a dick about it. I searched but didn't find, vBulletin's Search Button kind of sucks]

[binge]

You cant melee people that are just getting pulled back (and still can shoot back)
You CAN melee people that are getting fully pulled and are unable to shoot back

Nothing has changed..

[one of them]

But wasn't that invented so Closet Campers couldn't spam melee and stop smokers? With the way you described it, that would still be possible.

[BlackCat]

I noticed that they took away the feature where you couldn't melee a person being tounged until he stopped getting dragged. I didn't see it in any release notes. Did it change with the new Melee Fatigue or what?
I liked that aspect, then the smoker wasn't so underpowered.
And yes, I tried it in Versus.

[btw, if this thread already exists please don't be a dick about it. I searched but didn't find, vBulletin's Search Button kind of sucks]

The only change I remember seeing like that was when they made it so that you can't melee to get the tongue off of yourself, around the time they made it harder to melee a hunter flying at you. I have always been able to melee the Smoker's tongue off of someone else though, even while they were still being dragged.

or.. what Binge said :p

[DTard]

But wasn't that invented so Closet Campers couldn't spam melee and stop smokers? With the way you described it, that would still be possible.
Binge is correct. The patch made it so until the survivor was fully pulled, he could not be released by melee. You can still SHOOT the smoker before being fully pulled, but not melee.

[shadowstreak]

But wasn't that invented so Closet Campers couldn't spam melee and stop smokers? With the way you described it, that would still be possible.


no it would not be, they would be able to be dragged enough distance to leave the comfort of the corner, now if the team decided to leave the corner to save him/her, then it ends the corner camping for the time.

[one of them]

Here is the big Smoker Update:

Smoker


Fixed Smoker tongue tolerance
Smoker now has to be killed or the tongue destroyed for the tongue to break
Survivors cannot bash someone off the tongue until the Survivor being pulled is paralyzed or hanging
Tongue attacks that fail to paralyze or hang a Survivor will use the shorter ability delay timer
Fixed cases where the ability timer was not using the correct time
Fixed case where you could point at a Survivor but not register a tongue hit
Fixed Smoker tongue not targeting and landing properly through PZ ghosts
Smoker tongue does damage every second while dragging paralyzed Survivors

http://store.steampowered.com/news/?filter=updates&appids=500

Ok, so Binge is right. I guess by "paralyzed" they meant unable to shoot back. I thought that meant the same thing as hanging, except the smoker was on the same level as the Survivor.

[CrAnKeDHigH]

I thought that meant the same thing as hanging, except the smoker was on the same level as the Survivor.


Thats a better idea. The tongue still breaks too easy in many cases. Wish they would change it so the person cant be melee'd until pulled all the way to the smoker or a hanging position.

[Damen]

Here is the big Smoker Update:

http://store.steampowered.com/news/?filter=updates&appids=500

Ok, so Binge is right. I guess by "paralyzed" they meant unable to shoot back. I thought that meant the same thing as hanging, except the smoker was on the same level as the Survivor.

It would've been easier if they had said the set time amount. It is something like 1.5 secs after contact with the tongue.

[Hon3r]

I also thought that the person being pulled couldn't be saved until they're taking damage... I guess I was wrong.

[BlackCat]

I also thought that the person being pulled couldn't be saved until they're taking damage... I guess I was wrong.

I wish it was like that, I've had so many potentially good pulls broken by melee and got nothing for it. =/

[Kiwi]

Ya but doing 3 damage with a smoker tongue is annoying cause then you have the 12 second cool down for doing that 3 damage <_>.

[DTard]

Ya but doing 3 damage with a smoker tongue is annoying cause then you have the 12 second cool down for doing that 3 damage <_>.
It's two actually.