360 user to PC user

[Dre]

SO, Rachel is like talking me into getting the PC version of Left 4 dead with her as I type this so we can play with the mods and stuff and get DLC for free.

So I have a mac, and I got windows on it, so there a few question I would like to know before I drop another $40 for a game I already have.

Do I need steam to play it???
Can i use my wired controller on the PC version???(I HATE mouse and keyboard)

Also, some stats for figuring out if my mac can run this game at 100%
Processor: 2GHZ Intel Core 2 Duo
Memory: 2.5 GB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM
Graphics card: GMA X3100 144MB 32-bit color 1680 x 1050 @ 60 Hz

Whoops wrong section, can a MOD move this to the hardware section.

[SlainPwner666]

Ooh... um... hate to break it to you, but Macs arent really gaming computers. I'll let one of the resident computer specialists chew my ass out for that, but that was at least in my experience. As for the rest, not sure about the video card, but the processor and memory look fine, and yes, steam will be required. And yes, you can use your 360 controller with some FREE software.

Trust me, if you meet the requirements, it is more then a good idea to get the PC version.

Once you do, shoot me a friend invite. You can find me in the steam ID thread.

[hiryu]

Sorry to say, but you're not gonna be playing much of anything with that graphics card :/

[Dre]

See this is EXACTLY why I dont fucks with PC games. My shit aint even up to date, so now I have to buy all this shit and upgrade my MAC and it gets expensive quick.

Well i guess gaming on the computer is just not me man.

[darkmessiah]

Hey man, my shit got all fucked up here, so I gotta reformat that motherfucker. Well, I already did, so this shit is all up in the hizzy, hear?

"Aren't really gaming computers?"

Ummm, take out the really and there ya go: Aren't gaming computers.

Nada. No. People use Mac to make Pixar videos, not play HD Gaming.

[Chr0n1c]

Yes, it is possible but the amount of money that you would need to get a respectable gaming setup on a mac (vs pc) isn't worth it unless money is basically no object to you. That gfx card you have will absolutely not work for Left 4 Dead. You would be lucky if you got something like Halo or CSS to run on minimal grafix settings without getting lag making it unplayable.

And, yes you would need Steam.

As far as a long-term investment, if you love gaming on a PC, if you keep in mind what you want in a setup when it comes time for shopping for a new computer, it's not hard to walk away with a system that will retain value for years to come. And when you get right down to it, you spend how much a month for Xbox live service? How much is that in a year? how much in 2 years? When you game on the pc, multiplayer online services are all FREE. You do the math.

[darkmessiah]

Money is an object.

[ProtoManX]

Wow people are always wrong about Macs. I have a Mac and it runs Steam games perfectly compared to my gaming PC which constantly froze and shut down every time I opened up a Steam game. From looking at your Mac specs they should run Steam fine. You might have to be a bit inventive with connecting an XBox 360 controller to a Mac if at all possible. $800 for a MacBook which can run Steam games fine. If you wanna run them perfectly without pissing away $3000 for a gaming PC you can get an IMac for $1100 if you wanna run Steam games perfectly. Macs ARE gaming computers. People are just to ignorant to think sometimes.

[one of them]

Wow people are always wrong about Macs. I have a Mac and it runs Steam games perfectly compared to my gaming PC which constantly froze and shut down every time I opened up a Steam game. From looking at your Mac specs they should run Steam fine. You might have to be a bit inventive with connecting an XBox 360 controller to a Mac if at all possible. $800 for a MacBook which can run Steam games fine. If you wanna run them perfectly without pissing away $3000 for a gaming PC you can get an IMac for $1100 if you wanna run Steam games perfectly. Macs ARE gaming computers. People are just to ignorant to think sometimes.
Couldn't be more wrong, congratulations.
I put this PC together for about 850$. It runs all of my games on the highest spec without any "freezing and shutting down". The only time you ever have to spend 3000$ on a PC is if you are a complete idiot, *cough* ProtoMan *cough*.

[Chr0n1c]

Its not that Mac's can't, its that it cost alot more money to get them setup to perform like a PC will for less.

It's not just about running steam. Almost any computer can run Steam, but running left 4 dead at good gfx settings is something else. Being able to simply run an application doesn't mean you're getting your money's worth if you have to choke all the graphics settings down and play at low res.

Sure, that computer has enough processing power to be respectable, but that does not equate to gaming performance. A big reason why I believe that setup to be inadequate is the gfx card is integrated. Meaning, it shares resources with the motherboard.

I do love macs, so its not that people are just 'ignorent'. But $3000 gaming PC vs $800 macbook for gaming? Don't make me laugh.

Edit:
Just so you know, a $3000 machine has its utility... It will absolutely crush the latest and greatest most graphically rich games to come out right now and for at least the next two years, on highest graphics settings, and on super high resolutions. Like, for instance, if you connect your pc to a huge HD TV monitor? Yeah, that's what those machines are made for. I would dare anyone to try that with a $800 macbook. Just have a fire extinguisher standing by cause your CPU will likely catch on fire.

[ProtoManX]

I don't trust myself enough to build my own PC I admit it. I'd rather have a computer already built that I know can do what I need it to rather than waste time finding all the cards, ram, needed to do it. Everyone has their own taste when it comes to computers. Some prefer Macs, some prefer PCs, some even Linux, why they would chose that I do not know. All that matters in the case of gaming is if you meet the system requirements or something that can run parallel to it.

[LightsAndNoise]

Xbox Live costs me about 2.60 a month. Which is worth it in my opinion, plus the fact that my Xbox will work with every game that comes out for it, with no complications or errors. All I have to worry about is the RRoD, and I have had my xbox since they came out and that hasn't happened to me.

I play on the Xbox and PC, and most PC people just think console users are all ignorant, but it's not true.

I can understand the advantages of having a PC but things like the Mouse Vs Controller arguement?!

It's completely irellevant as you are only going to be playing against people with the same aiming system as you so there is no advantage.

[ProtoManX]

It also depends on what you are used to. Mouse and keyboard Vs 360 Vs PS3 Vs Wii. It depends on the game really Steam games yes I prefer a Mouse and Keyboard. Some games which are only on a console I prefer that controller for. It is a lil odd to go from one or the other when you aren't used to them.

[one of them]

I prefer all First-Person Games on the PC. The controls are fitted for it so much more than on Console. Other games like Mirror's Edge, Fable 2, Assassin's Creed, etc. I prefer on the Console.

[darkmessiah]

I prefer all First-Person Games on the PC. The controls are fitted for it so much more than on Console. Other games like Mirror's Edge, Fable 2, Assassin's Creed, etc. I prefer on the Console.

Agreed.

Contextual games feel better for the 360 has more technical games (ala FPS and RTS) feel at home on the PC.

[Chr0n1c]

A mouse is a much more precise aiming device to use instead of a little ass knob.

[CrAnKeDHigH]

As far as a long-term investment, if you love gaming on a PC, if you keep in mind what you want in a setup when it comes time for shopping for a new computer, it's not hard to walk away with a system that will retain value for years to come. And when you get right down to it, you spend how much a month for Xbox live service? How much is that in a year? how much in 2 years? When you game on the pc, multiplayer online services are all FREE. You do the math.

Xbox Live is $50 bucks a year. You pay more for a pc than for a console. A good pc might last you 5 years depending and a console will last maybe 3-4 before the next one comes out. Games are cheaper on pc than on console by $10 or so. I say it all evens out in the end.

[Chr0n1c]

Well, one reason why I think consoles can be a waste, is because most people are going to buy a computer regardless of if they have a console system. So, you buy a half-decent machine (that you would probably buy anyways), and plop a nice graphics card in (gfx cards are much cheaper then the price of a console) then you have a respectable gaming system. If you know how to build a machine yourself or even just some components yourself, you save even more money.

Controllers are what? $30-$50? You don't have to buy controllers for a PC, you already have everything you need. There are more examples i could site but there's some food for thought.

[Boojangels]

I think we scared Dre away from PC gaming.

I'd say build a computer from scratch. It's always better to do it that way (Assuming you know what you're doing.) You could probably make a $800 machine and be able to run Crysis pretty well. Then after you spend $800, you update your parts every so often (When new tech and games come out) you like. It's like your own child.

[CrAnKeDHigH]

Well, one reason why I think consoles can be a waste, is because most people are going to buy a computer regardless of if they have a console system. So, you buy a half-decent machine (that you would probably buy anyways), and plop a nice graphics card in (gfx cards are much cheaper then the price of a console) then you have a respectable gaming system. If you know how to build a machine yourself or even just some components yourself, you save even more money.

Controllers are what? $30-$50? You don't have to buy controllers for a PC, you already have everything you need. There are more examples i could site but there's some food for thought.

I wasnt trying to argue whats better. Each person should decide whats best for them, but you originally made it sound like paying for Live was so expensive it was a deal breaker.

Sure people could buy a computer that will last for years and add gfx cards and such, but MOST people arent you or me who can just easily do that stuff. MOST people want to come home and play with what they have which makes consoles a heck of a lot easier long term especially for people with kids. And you arent buying controllers. You only need one to play and it comes with the console. Unless you are playing split screen which you basically cant even do with the pc, or if you can its probably stupid anyway with such a small screen.

[Shrubberyjsc]

It's like your own child.

Yes, but sans the diapers.

:D

[CrAnKeDHigH]

Yes, but sans the diapers.

:D

Yeah thats the best part about it because, trust me, you dont want to deal with diapers. Its amazing what comes out of people who are so small.

[Goldkills]

upgrade my MAC

LAWL GL with that you might want to invest in a PC bro a 600$ desktop(building it of course) can way out perform almost any mac computer for games and as for the controller thing try to play using the keyboard overtime u will get better at it and it IS the better way to play by far due to being able to turn and fire quickly and set binds and such.

[darkmessiah]

I think we scared Dre away from PC gaming.

I'd say build a computer from scratch. It's always better to do it that way (Assuming you know what you're doing.) You could probably make a $800 machine and be able to run Crysis pretty well. Then after you spend $800, you update your parts every so often (When new tech and games come out) you like. It's like your own child.

Pretty well? With 800 you can build:

AMD Phenom II X4 940 BE 3.0GHz

4 GB RAM

GTX 260 (275 On some sales)

790GX or FX MoBo

Blah blah

All for about 850

[mshield]

My PC can't run HL2 on high. I think that says it all.

Even if I did have a good PC, I would stick to console. Friends are more important to me than super-graphics.

[yourbadmega]

shouldn't this be in hardware section?
On topic: with $3000 for a pc you could get some serious shit like alienware computers .

[Boojangels]

shouldn't this be in hardware section?
On topic: with $3000 for a pc you could get some serious shit like alienware computers .

Alienware is mega overpriced. You can get the same parts off newegg cheaper

A $3000 dollar computer is either overpriced or a freakin' Jesus computer. I can't even think of the parts that would cost that much heh heh.

[Platypus]

If you know what you're doing and build your own computer, you can save alot of money in the long run and enjoy the better graphics, loading times, ect of a PC game vs a Console game.

Although I understand what part of the lure of a console (no need to upgrade, lower price, ect), I prefer to be able to customize my rig to where I want it to be and make everything look slightly more purty.

[s0cks]

I went from X360 to PC version and I have to say the PC version rules. But then again I do have a high-end PC. Using mouse is soooo much easier. I also enjoy playing at 1920x1080 :)

With regards to console vs. PC. Both have there place. Personally I prefer 3rd person games, and other arcade style games that were clearly designed for a controller on the console. Examples are GTA, SR2, GoW, etc... PC for FPS and RTS for example L4D, Crysis, C&C, etc...

[Doctor Whom]

I bought the PC I use for playing L4D for under £500 from Novatech. It's top-notch: great framrates at top detail and resolution settings, no problems at all. The thing to remember is that you don't need to buy a new PC every time you need a videocard upgrade or more memory: just upgrade the parts as necessary. Cheaper than buying a new Mac every time a new must-have game comes out!

[Grieverlionhart]

Tell her to get an xbox and chip in i guess, that'd be the cheapest way xbox's are like £150 now?

[SlainPwner666]

Tell her to get an xbox and chip in i guess, that'd be the cheapest way xbox's are like £150 now?

She's already got one mate, she just wants custom content and free DLC. So she's trying to get him to buy the PC version.

[Easton Dark]

You gotta make Rachel happy, so you better be getting that pc version.

[bedcommando]

Did someone say they game on a laptop? (MacBook) aye :(

[Mini Moose]

Did someone say they game on a laptop? (MacBook) aye :(

I used to game on a laptop.
Also I just got done soda.
After that I think I'll chips.

[Easton Dark]

Did someone say they game on a laptop? (MacBook) aye :(

My laptop runs all games on high easily, laptops are the way to go.

[Mini Moose]

laptops are the way to go.

Cool upgrades bro.

[Frito]

laptops are the way to go.

wat.

5wats

[TnT DORKMAN]

I know console wars are forbidden in the rules, but what about operating sytem wars?! :D

[nerVe]

My laptop runs all games on high easily, laptops are the way to go.

What laptop did you get and for how much? I highly doubt this...

And I built my girlfriend a sweet gaming rig for $800, (case, 22" monitor, everything) and mine for $500 (had the monitor, keyboard, mouse, etc.)

FPS = PC
Platformers/RPGs = Console

[Dre]

man, im not dropping another dime on a console or PC, im not getting a $800 PC just to play ONE FREAKIN GAME! I told you, I dont even like the mouse and keyboard, i grew up playing the atari and NES plus, I dont play FPS competitively, so it's not like I need all that extra, super-win, go-in, ultra aim the mouse has.

we not going to get it because Rachel's comp cant even run it. so the console it is.

so this thread can be locked now.

[bedcommando]

laptops were not meant for gaming at all. The amount of money you spend on a decent laptop that would work well in todays games would be better off spent on a desktop unless you REALLY needed to be mobile. Not to mention the wonderful heat issues a lot of the "gaming" grade laptops run into.

you could spend $800 and get something that'll outperform most $1500+ laptops with ease.

[Shrubberyjsc]

we not going to get it because Rachel's comp cant even run it. so the console it is.

so this thread can be locked now.


Hmmm, I thought the OP could lock their own threads now... :(


Anyway, I'll do it for ya.

:D