Awesome band

[BlowJay]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1nFCaZKdr0


I put the censored version up so everyone wouldn't bitch
"Oh well this is questional material blah blah blah. These forums are for an m rated game but we all need to act like little kids".

so watch this version its still sweet
and i might still get it taken off
but whatever

[Nuttz]

No thankyou.

[Boojangels]

That wasn't awesome, at all.

[Nuttz]

That wasn't awesome, at all.

The word "music" is tossed around alot these days....

[Platypus]

What is it about these forums (or L4D) that attracts people who have bad taste in music?

[Deadly]

Maybe it's the "dead" part.

[Boojangels]

I know you guys have been hurt by this song, so I'll drop this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afHQd-lP4yU) to make you feel better.

[BlowJay]

I see im one of the few people who plays l4d that enjoys abstract art

[Deadly]

What the hell does art have to do with crappy music?

[BlowJay]

What the hell does art have to do with crappy music?

Art can mean music too you fucking moron

[Deadly]

Not if the music is what you posted

[Nuttz]

That was not art, that was a torture device.

[BlowJay]

Haha just cause you guys do not like it does not mean it is not music
or art
Macabre is certainly art

[Nuttz]

If you can find me someone with a completely legitimate opinion who says that it is art then I shall leave this thread and never return.

[Deadly]

If I screamed in your ear, would you call that music?

[BlowJay]

If I screamed in your ear, would you call that music?

No because screaming in someones ear takes no talent

[Deadly]

Exactly!

[Platypus]

No because screaming in someones ear takes no talent
And neither does metal music.

[Nuttz]

Case fucking closed.

[EClaris]

Wow, like more generic screaming please.

[BlowJay]

And neither does metal music.

Excuse me i know lots of people think that metal is not music
but i beg to differ
you all say that the vocals is just screaming
i know it sounds like that but trust me the vocals require much more then just screaming. they require proper use of the diaphram to make the right sounds.
guitar requires talent and if you say otherwise you are fucking stupid
drums certainly take talent
i don't know how you can compare simply screaming in someones ear to metal music. Sorry but that is just stupid

[Nuttz]

Excuse me i know lots of people think that metal is not music
but i beg to differ
you all say that the vocals is just screaming
i know it sounds like that but trust me the vocals require much more then just screaming. they require proper use of the diaphram to make the right sounds.
guitar requires talent and if you say otherwise you are fucking stupid
drums certainly take talent
i don't know how you can compare simply screaming in someones ear to metal music. Sorry but that is just stupid

Metal music is OK, death-metal-scream-in-your-ears-until-they-begin-to-bleed, however, is not music, it is simply ear rape.

[Platypus]

Excuse me i know lots of people think that metal is not music
but i beg to differ
you all say that the vocals is just screaming
i know it sounds like that but trust me the vocals require much more then just screaming. they require proper use of the diaphram to make the right sounds.
guitar requires talent and if you say otherwise you are fucking stupid
drums certainly take talent
i don't know how you can compare simply screaming in someones ear to metal music. Sorry but that is just stupid

I didn't know that you needed to use your diaphram to make a "correct" screaming noise.

And I play guitar, and I don't think it takes much talent to play fast power chords. Maybe if they used barre chords for musical variation or flavor (although I doubt many metal musicians know what they are). Drums, I can almost see the case there, but still, it mostly speed.

And how can i not "compare simply screaming in someones ear to metal music" when it's exactly that?

[BlowJay]

Metal music is OK, death-metal-scream-in-your-ears-until-they-begin-to-bleed, however, is not music, it is simply ear rape.

It is too music
I know i used to not like it either
but when you actually listen to it all
not just listening to the loud vocals and saying "thats loud oh i dont like it"
Trust me it is music
The riffs of guitar are complex and the drumming is fast and complex as well

and even the screaming takes talent trust me it takes a good throat and diaphram to make the vocals

[EClaris]

Uh Oh guys

Looks like we have a music elitist bitch fit on the way. If Metal didnt all blend together into terrible guitar chords and drumming that is lackluster at best and screaming that has little or no variation I might try to defend your tastes.

Metal is music, but its terrible

[BlowJay]

I didn't know that you needed to use your diaphram to make a "correct" screaming noise.

And I play guitar, and I don't think it takes much talent to play fast power chords. Maybe if they used barre chords for musical variation or flavor (although I doubt many metal musicians know what they are). Drums, I can almost see the case there, but still, it mostly speed.

And how can i not "compare simply screaming in someones ear to metal music" when it's exactly that?

Cause it is not that
go back to that song
and tell me is all he doing screaming?
no he is actually singing most of the song but most of you are too dumb to realize that. He screams for part of the song

And yes with metal vocal screaming or growls you cant just scream into a microphone. Trust me there is a lot more to it then you think

[Platypus]

and even the screaming takes talent trust me it takes a good throat and diaphram to make the vocals

So you do agree it's screaming.

[Deadly]

Excuse me i know lots of people think that metal is not music
but i beg to differ
you all say that the vocals is just screaming
i know it sounds like that but trust me the vocals require much more then just screaming. they require proper use of the diaphram to make the right sounds.
guitar requires talent and if you say otherwise you are fucking stupid
drums certainly take talent
i don't know how you can compare simply screaming in someones ear to metal music. Sorry but that is just stupid

Metals take up many of the elements on the periodic table.

"guitar requires talent and if you say otherwise you are fucking stupid
drums certainly take talent"
Yes they do. I wonder, if I went to a publicist and screamed random, violent things if I would become rich. Since that's all these people seem to do. Can you even hear what they are saying behind all of his unattended to strep throat?
"How many secret hangings of the premature baby tonight under the red moon"

It seems like that song is simply just a compilation of violent things this depraved of an education and talent singer/songwriter could think of and then took those words and screamed them at the top of his lungs while having an endoscopy done.

In what way does that qualify as music? Let alone art.

[BlowJay]

Of course i agree it is screaming
its more then just screaming at the top of your lungs randomly though

And deadly the song is about abortion you fucking moron
maybe you could look at the song a little better
just cause the lyrics are violent doesn't mean they don't have a meaning

[EClaris]

Here BlowJay, I will make a analogy that will make these peoples opinion all clear to you.

Two films, Citizen Kane and Dracula 3000. Both are movies, therefore both are indeed art. But one is a masterpiece of cinema while the other is absolute garbage thatsent me in a downward spiral of drugs and promiscuity to bury its memory.

Metal is the Dracula 3000 of the situation

[Platypus]

Here BlowJay, I will make a analogy that will make these peoples opinion all clear to you.

Two films, Citizen Kane and Dracula 3000. Both are movies, therefore both are indeed art. But one is a masterpiece of cinema while the other is absolute garbage thatsent me in a downward spiral of drugs and promiscuity to bury its memory.

Metal is the Dracula 3000 of the situation
Quote of the week nomination right here.

[BallsMalloney]

I am a metal singer, TRUST ME.. Its harder than normal singing, Endurance and your ability to exhale scream in actuality is tough. Inhale is easy as shit. Dragonforce sucks. And that is just fast guitar riffs. IT TAKES TRUE SKILL TO PLAY GOOD RATHER THAN FAST. Refer to Buckethead: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsjYqm-2PDk

[BlowJay]

Here BlowJay, I will make a analogy that will make these peoples opinion all clear to you.

Two films, Citizen Kane and Dracula 3000. Both are movies, therefore both are indeed art. But one is a masterpiece of cinema while the other is absolute garbage thatsent me in a downward spiral of drugs and promiscuity to bury its memory.

Metal is the Dracula 3000 of the situation

Please dont compare a single fucking movie to all metal music
that is seriously ridiculous
There is lots and lots and lots of metal music
ill admit
i hate quit a bit of it
but when you just simply say metal takes no talent
that is just stupid

[SlainPwner666]

And neither does metal music.

Oh no you didnt.

[BlowJay]

Wow i actually have someone who agrees with me
thanks

[Deadly]

Quote of the week nomination right here.

/vote

You say the song has meaning, yet I read through it again and again and still can't find any meaning to it. It seems to me it talks about

"Colour of Golden...
Colour of tears...
Colour of faint...
Colour of pomegranate..."

With a bit of "and the vomiting at night begins. Don't you remember?" thrown in for good measure

[Platypus]

Oh no you didnt.
Oh yes I did.

[Boojangels]

I'll say there are some good metal bands. However, most after 1995 suck mega dicks, along with this band and song. Mostly just screaming about random crap with repeated chords.

True metal... is somethin' liek dis (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZlDZPYzfm4).

[BlowJay]

/vote

You say the song has meaning, yet I read through it again and again and still can't find any meaning to it. It seems to me it talks about

"Colour of Golden...
Colour of tears...
Colour of faint...
Colour of pomegranate..."

With a bit of "and the vomiting at night begins. Don't you remember?" thrown in for good measure

The words do not say directly what it is about
that is where the art is you have to find the meaning

a song cant just go
this song is about abortion
its wrong and i dont like it

sorry but it doesnt work like that
not my fault you cant find the meaning in the song

[EClaris]

Please dont compare a single fucking movie to all metal music
that is seriously ridiculous
There is lots and lots and lots of metal music
ill admit
i hate quit a bit of it
but when you just simply say metal takes no talent
that is just stupid
I guess I shouldn't say ALL metal is like Dracula 3000. Most of it is like Teen Movies (a whole genre for you). Entertaining, but all in all contrived and forgettable.

And I was mostly referring to the metal music you like

[Platypus]

Refer to Buckethead: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsjYqm-2PDk
I can actually say the riffs in that were quiet brilliant. Loved the softer parts in-between the lounder, crunchier bits. And the wah bit was awesome. It was clear from that video that the guitarist has some sense of scales, ect ect. From the video the OP posted, it was clear that bands guitarists had learned powerchords in five minutes.

[SlainPwner666]

Wow i actually have someone who agrees with me
thanks

I haven't seen the video, but to me, if the band is bad, that's okay, I won't listen to them anymore. But for the love of god/buhda/Muhamed/Whatever, don't base your opinion on ONE band.

[BallsMalloney]

Buckethead is bad-assery metal.
Maiden is alright though Boo. But I do like that Scream music just..Not this kind. I prefer children of bodom were you can actually UNDERSTAND IT and the lyrics have meaning. Along side with Devildriver.
Siege Engine is one of his most awesome songs IMO.

[Deadly]

The words do not say directly what it is about
that is where the art is you have to find the meaning

a song cant just go
this song is about abortion
its wrong and i dont like it

sorry but it doesnt work like that
not my fault you cant find the meaning in the song

I can't find the meaning because I can't understand what the hell this guy is saying. Maybe if he would talk with his normal voice, which I assume would be talking loudly for us non-metal folk without ear damage, I could get some meaning out of it.

No a song can't just go out and say what it is about, that's where the true art is, something this song/band lacks. I could go ahead and give you an example of a song that has a bigger meaning then what is written, but I'm afraid you wouldn't understand it.

[Nuttz]

I think everyone here isn't talking about Metal, some of the Foo Fighters songs are considered metal. I think what people are talking about is death metal.

[BlowJay]

That video isnt even similar to the metal that i usually listen to
but i still like it
i actually like lots of music
ac/dc
i like some rap (little)
pop music
alternative
i even like some country
metal is still my favorite and when people say its not music that makes me mad cause it certainly takes talent

[BlowJay]

Oh and so you people know
you probably cant understand him
BECAUSE ITS A FUCKING JAPANESE BAND
thats why you cant understand him
if i knew this was going to become a huge debate about metal
i wouldnt have posted this band cause its not a good example
its just a good song

[SlainPwner666]

I think everyone here isn't talking about Metal, some of the Foo Fighters songs are considered metal. I think what people are talking about is death metal.

Thank you good sir. I just despise generalizations.

[BlowJay]

I can't find the meaning because I can't understand what the hell this guy is saying. Maybe if he would talk with his normal voice, which I assume would be talking loudly for us non-metal folk without ear damage, I could get some meaning out of it.

No a song can't just go out and say what it is about, that's where the true art is, something this song/band lacks. I could go ahead and give you an example of a song that has a bigger meaning then what is written, but I'm afraid you wouldn't understand it.

Your funny because you think just cause you dont like the way it sounds
it doesnt have meaning
i think all music has meaning i dont care what genre
some songs dont
but this one does and i promise you

[BallsMalloney]

..They are one of those japanese wanna-be bands..GAWD DAMN they are annoying.

[Boojangels]

Well, I think we are just about done here. We've justified that death metal pretty much sucks (Along with this song), but metal is aw rite.

Case Closed

Song sucks bro

[BlowJay]

..They are one of those japanese wanna-be bands..GAWD DAMN they are annoying.

this band was made a while ago in like the early late 80s early 90s

no its not one of those new wannabe bands but i know what your talking about trust me

[BallsMalloney]

Death Metal doesn't suck but, some bands just ruin it. *I am including this one..Pounding on the guitar and drums and twisting a grunge-feel in this manner sucks.* I will throw some bands I THINK in Death Metal out there.
Avenged Sevenfold
As I Lay Dying
Slipknot.

[Platypus]

i think all music has meaning i dont care what genre
some songs dont


Stop contradicting yourself.

[BlowJay]

Stop contradicting yourself.

wtf is wrong with you?
because im saying i like all music?
your fucking stupid
any music can have meanings
its just the different ways it sounds that makes it the genre

[BlowJay]

Death Metal doesn't suck but, some bands just ruin it. *I am including this one..Pounding on the guitar and drums and twisting a grunge-feel in this manner sucks.* I will throw some bands I THINK in Death Metal out there.
Avenged Sevenfold
As I Lay Dying
Slipknot.

Umm those are certainly not death metal at all
as i lay dying is close
but is not death metal

[Nuttz]

Death Metal doesn't suck but, some bands just ruin it. *I am including this one..Pounding on the guitar and drums and twisting a grunge-feel in this manner sucks.* I will throw some bands I THINK in Death Metal out there.
Avenged Sevenfold
As I Lay Dying
Slipknot.

I wouldn't consider Slipknot a death metal band, sure they have some death metal songs but don't they have softer songs aswell?

[BallsMalloney]

Yeah. But they suck.

[Platypus]

wtf is wrong with you?
because im saying i like all music?
your fucking stupid
any music can have meanings
its just the different ways it sounds that makes it the genre

I understand what a genre is. And I'm not "fucking stupid" just for pointing out that you contradicted yourself in your own post, or do you not understand what the word "contradiction" means? I'll give you some time to go google that (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=why+am+i+such+an+immature+dumb+ass%3F).

[SlainPwner666]

Chimaira. Just throwin that out there.

Dunno what genre they are however.

[Deadly]

I understand what a genre is. And I'm not "fucking stupid" just for pointing out that you contradicted yourself in your own post, or do you not understand what the word "contradiction" means? I'll give you some time to go google that (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=why+am+i+such+an+immature+dumb+ass%3F).

Game over. I think this thread has served it's purpose as a slap in the face to death metal.

[BlowJay]

I understand what a genre is. And I'm not "fucking stupid" just for pointing out that you contradicted yourself in your own post, or do you not understand what the word "contradiction" means? I'll give you some time to go google that (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=why+am+i+such+an+immature+dumb+ass%3F).

i did not contradict myself

i am still staying by saying that metal has talent
i simply said that all music has meaning regardless on genre
only depending on lyrics

[Nuttz]

Chimaira. Just throwin that out there.

Dunno what genre they are however.

I think they at least sing some of the time.

[SlainPwner666]

i think they at least sing some of the time.

GOOD ENOUGH FER ME

caps

[BlowJay]

You said you think all music has meaning, yet in the next line you said that some didn't. Wat?

All music genres can have a meaning regardless of genre
it matters the lyrics
excuse me if i didn't word it well enough but i was saying that in regard to all genres

[Platypus]

I gotcha. And i'm done with the thread. As Deadly said:

Game over. I think this thread has served it's purpose as a slap in the face to death metal.

[Nuttz]

Death metal is not art, end of story.

[Deadly]

Stop it everyone, I get the last post before it gets closed, not you!

[Nuttz]

No, I get the final say!

[Deadly]

No, I get the final say!

What did I just say!?

[Nuttz]

I will fight you!

[Boojangels]

I think we've learned something in this thread: Deadly sucks

[BlowJay]

no Metal is music and an art
im not gonna let either of you ignorant people end the post saying otherwise

[Deadly]

Too late, I just did.

Metal is not music or art


:O OH SNAP

[Nuttz]

Art does not make you want to stab at your ears with an icepick.

Therefore: This is not art.

[Deadly]

Art does not make you want to stab at your ears with an icepick.

Therefore: This is not art.

I agree

[Nuttz]

I agree

I approve of this statement.

[Deadly]

I approve of this statement.

As do I

[Nuttz]

As do I

You approve of the statement of which you agreed with my statement?

[Deadly]

You approve of the statement of which you agreed with my statement?

That is correct

[Steve Cloud]

"Oh well this is questional material blah blah blah. These forums are for an m rated game but we all need to act like little kids".

We have these rules in place not because people can't handle it but because we'd rather have a forum atmosphere that isn't littered with pornography, obscenities and the like.

Anyway, this thread is way out of hand. In future, you guys should probably just ignore this sort of thing and not feed the fire.