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squerl
10-29-2007, 08:09 AM
http://www.cracked.com/article_15643_5-scientific- reasons-zombie-apocalypse-could-actually-happen.ht ml (http://www.cracked.com/article_15643_5-scientific-reasons-zombie-apocalypse-could-actually-happen.html)

Please be in my lifetime! Real life L4D. Hardcore mode - no respawns.

QuotidianTemerity
10-29-2007, 09:08 AM
Give me a break.


Great article though.

asu
10-29-2007, 09:20 AM
Rofl, this is pure gold. I love #1, the nanobots. But how could they replicate themselfs? They consist of anorganic material right? Nvrm, just rethought something...

Quote: "The nanobots will be programmed to self-replicate, and the death of the host will mean the end of the nanobots. To preserve themselves, they'd need to transfer to a new host. Therefore, the last act of the nanobot zombie would be to bite a hole in a healthy victim, letting the nanobots steam in and set up camp in the new host."

So there would always be only a few "Zombies" that wouldn´t harm anyone untill they get "old" and have to transfer their Nanobots. Right?

No Shelter
10-29-2007, 09:23 AM
Rage virus should be #1. Or at least 2.

PewPew
10-29-2007, 10:07 AM
Rage virus should be #1. Or at least 2.

Could thar be such a thing?

Edit: Said that when I was reading number 4
But what stops them from killing each other?

squerl
10-29-2007, 10:45 AM
I wonder what happens if a human loses most of their cortex and just has their brain stem left (and lived).. anybody know of any cases of that?

Give me a break.

Naysayers will be the first to go.

Shrubberyjsc
10-29-2007, 11:34 AM
"Nanobots are a technology that science apparently engineered to make you terrified of the future. We're talking about microscopic, self-replicating robots that can invisbily build--or destroy--anything."

This gave me a good laff.

Nanobots can do anything.

Not that any of you will get this quote, but... "RADAR!!!"

Yeah, rage virus should be #1.

Seconded.

Dead Fish
10-29-2007, 11:44 AM
I wonder what happens if a human loses most of their cortex and just has their brain stem left (and lived).. anybody know of any cases of that?


When I had Biology in school, my teacher talked about something similar. There are cases of people, who returned from war with a bullet shot sideways through their forehead (not the whole skull). They survived but had a radically changed personality. You could describe it as more "primitive". They lost all constraints, even to the point of violent behaviour and sexual harassment.

hooray for zombies
10-29-2007, 12:14 PM
Too many 'if's and 'could be's for me too fully agree

gorgoth
10-29-2007, 12:19 PM
Ever hear of that Guy, Phineas something, that had a railway spike blown through his skull and lived? Supposedly he was a different person after, but a person nonetheless. Here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phineas_Gage

Plankie
10-29-2007, 12:39 PM
I bet whoever wrote that actually wants it to happen.

Etheallmighty
10-29-2007, 12:52 PM
LOL i accidentally skipped from reason 5 to 1...I love the transition on the "threat system" from moderate, to SHIT!

toxictbag
10-29-2007, 01:14 PM
Please be in my lifetime! Real life L4D. Hardcore mode - no respawns.


True ! :D but what would we do about noobs and team killers? :P

hool10
10-29-2007, 01:59 PM
Funny but all bs. When I first saw the movie 28 days later I thought it was completly stupid (still do). First off when things die everything seizes up and cells die. So having zombies running fast would'nt make sense because rot moving around would just go all over the place and the person is'nt flexible after cells getting frozen. Funny article but the best theory I have ever heard of a zombie apocalypse is the advanced rabies scene. I'm happy TRS didn't go the generic way like 28 days later and it's highly believable. Except the boss monsters lol.

KashMunni
10-29-2007, 02:15 PM
Funny but all bs. When I first saw the movie 28 days later I thought it was completly stupid (still do). First off when things die everything seizes up and cells die. So having zombies running fast would'nt make sense because rot moving around would just go all over the place and the person is'nt flexible after cells getting frozen. Funny article but the best theory I have ever heard of a zombie apocalypse is the advanced rabies scene. I'm happy TRS didn't go the generic way like 28 days later and it's highly believable. Except the boss monsters lol.


what you mean?

why would the body parts even be rotting off if the infected weren't even dead?
The movie makes pretty good sense to me

lols cool article btw..

fiftysevenpercent
10-29-2007, 02:34 PM
I'm actually a microbiology major and I've talked about this with some of my immunology and virology professors. They didn't think it could be possible. Along with taking neuroscience classes as part of the core requirement I've also heard it is not possible. Biologically anyway. Losing most of your cortex would eliminate your thought processes altogether along with every other function that each section of the missing the cortex was covering, this includes; seeing, hearing, breathing. There have been many cases of people's frontal lobes being damaged, it's essentially a lobotomy. They used to use lobotomy's before any real neuro-science was around. Your frontal lobe has to do with higher thought processes, such as ideas, thoughts, problems solving. They used to give angry chimps lobotomies and discovered it mellowed the chimps siginficantly. They began giving humans lobotomies. It basically turned them into a walking vegetable. There have been, however, cases of children (before the age of 3) having half of their cortex removed in order to prevent siezures and other brain related illnesses. Since the brain is plastic, it can form new pathways and the opposing hemisphere can take over the hemisphere missing the cortex's functions.

If you removed everything from the human head except the spinal chord the person would die. No matter what. Your brain controls your body, breaking, heart rate, etc. It would be impossible to live. Even if you did live, you wouldn't be able to move. Its more realistic to think of living without your body and just a brain than vise versa.

But.... if somehow all this did happen. This is no explanation to why you would eat human flesh.

Dead Fish
10-29-2007, 02:35 PM
why would the body parts even be rotting off if the infected weren't even dead?
The movie makes pretty good sense to me


What doesn't make much sense really, is the cannibalism. I can understand it, making you want to beat somebody to death, but eating other humnans (and only humans)? I don't think there is a virus with that effect.

hool10
10-29-2007, 02:54 PM
what you mean?
Well when things rot, cells deteriorate. So they would be like jelly and completely act like a rotton tomatoe. Just a gooey mess. That's why the entire zombie thing is completly stupid. I also remembered the term for the parts freezing up: rigomortis.

PewPew
10-29-2007, 02:59 PM
Quoting: KashMunni
what you mean?
Well when things rot, cells deteriorate. So they would be like jelly and completely act like a rotton tomatoe. Just a gooey mess. That's why the entire zombie thing is completly stupid. I also remembered the term for the parts freezing up: rigomortis.

The infected in 28 Days Later didn't die, they were just infected, so why would they rot?

No Shelter
10-29-2007, 04:02 PM
Funny but all bs. When I first saw the movie 28 days later I thought it was completly stupid (still do). First off when things die everything seizes up and cells die. So having zombies running fast would'nt make sense because rot moving around would just go all over the place and the person is'nt flexible after cells getting frozen. Funny article but the best theory I have ever heard of a zombie apocalypse is the advanced rabies scene. I'm happy TRS didn't go the generic way like 28 days later and it's highly believable. Except the boss monsters lol.

Please do more research, you are wrong in so many ways. And TRS did take theirs off of 28 Days later in a way. Dumbass.

USS_Stud
10-29-2007, 04:05 PM
I've thought about taking bio engineering-like classes to secretly create a G-Virus, then purposely release it Resident Evil (movie) style. But... I think that's just way way too much work to destroy the human race.

krunsh
10-29-2007, 04:33 PM
Thanks for sharing squerl,

I love the first one, and the rage.

Shrubberyjsc
10-29-2007, 05:50 PM
I'm actually a microbiology major and I've talked about this with some of my immunology and virology professors. They didn't think it could be possible. Along with taking neuroscience classes as part of the core requirement I've also heard it is not possible. Biologically anyway. Losing most of your cortex would eliminate your thought processes altogether along with every other function that each section of the missing the cortex was covering, this includes; seeing, hearing, breathing. There have been many cases of people's frontal lobes being damaged, it's essentially a lobotomy. They used to use lobotomy's before any real neuro-science was around. Your frontal lobe has to do with higher thought processes, such as ideas, thoughts, problems solving. They used to give angry chimps lobotomies and discovered it mellowed the chimps siginficantly. They began giving humans lobotomies. It basically turned them into a walking vegetable. There have been, however, cases of children (before the age of 3) having half of their cortex removed in order to prevent siezures and other brain related illnesses. Since the brain is plastic, it can form new pathways and the opposing hemisphere can take over the hemisphere missing the cortex's functions.


Sounds like you know quite a bit about this.

What about the parasites? I think that's quite plausible.

(A parasite that changes peoples' behavior to propagate itself.)

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Also, welcome to the forums.

QuotidianTemerity
10-29-2007, 11:48 PM
As a biochemist, I fully endorse this article.


Now panic.

tp500
10-30-2007, 01:16 AM
Funny but all bs. When I first saw the movie 28 days later I thought it was completly stupid (still do). First off when things die everything seizes up and cells die. So having zombies running fast would'nt make sense because rot moving around would just go all over the place and the person is'nt flexible after cells getting frozen. Funny article but the best theory I have ever heard of a zombie apocalypse is the advanced rabies scene. I'm happy TRS didn't go the generic way like 28 days later and it's highly believable. Except the boss monsters lol.
WOW! Yea, did you see the movie? Cause you couldn't have missed the part where the infected DIDNT DIE before they turned into rage humans. Some humans werent even attacked, they were just tackled and puked on, so they wouldn't be dead and rotting, just very very very very angry.

Eddy_of_the_dead
10-30-2007, 02:17 AM
the rage virus kicks ass!!!!
if a persoon is in a state op pure pure rage it can lift thing about 1 time heavier then he is (like the persoon is 50 kilo's in rage stat now he can lift about 100 kilo's) has no control over his body and is must likely to atack any one at site....if this shit is invetend and makes a out break....then where zo screwedWell when things rot, cells deteriorate. So they would be like jelly and completely act like a rotton tomatoe. Just a gooey mess. That's why the entire zombie thing is completly stupid.
to this i say those rage infected peepz in 28 days/weeks later arnt dead they are in a state of pure rage

Eddy_of_the_dead
10-30-2007, 02:19 AM
I'm actually a microbiology major and I've talked about this with some of my immunology and virology professors
yes youve lost me whit microbiolgy.....but intersting story mate

hool10
10-30-2007, 04:19 AM
So you people don't consider being dead if you have bloody eyes and vomit puke that's blood? Please do more research, you are wrong in so many ways. And TRS did take theirs off of 28 Days later in a way. Dumbass.
How am I worng in so many ways? I don't even think you have seen something dead. I said I'm happy TRS didn't go the generic was as in the typical monkey in a lab scenario.

QuotidianTemerity
10-30-2007, 04:49 AM
So you people don't consider being dead if you have bloody eyes and vomit puke that's blood?

That's actually correct; given the amount of blood that is excreted by the zombies in 28 Days Later, they wouldn't last two hours. Infected or not, they still rely on oxygenated haemoglobin for respiration.

The One
10-30-2007, 07:49 AM
I remember making a topic like this before but with the Rabies disease. You know how it makes animals hell bent on ripping your face off? It could be possible to evolve and do that to humans on an Extreme level

Dead Fish
10-30-2007, 08:19 AM
I remember making a topic like this before but with the Rabies disease. You know how it makes animals hell bent on ripping your face off? It could be possible to evolve and do that to humans on an Extreme level

Doesn't explain though, why they wouldn't attack other infected people (like zombies do). Two infected animals would still fight each other.

Shrubberyjsc
10-30-2007, 08:34 AM
Give me a break.

As a biochemist, I fully endorse this article.


Now panic.


Contradicting yourself?

fiftysevenpercent
10-30-2007, 08:44 AM
I haven't learned as much about parasites yet. Yes, it is true that parasites can manipulate their host into doing certain tasks. (such as an infected beetle making itself visible for a bird to eat, to move on to a better host). However, from what I've seen parasites don't really manipulate humans the same way. Most parasites don't want to kill their hosts for the most part either, most of the time if the host dies, the parasite dies, so its a commensalism relation ship, meaning the parasite benefits and host remains unaffected. Seeing as how a zombie stops eating, drinking, breathing? the parasite wouldn't benefit and would probably die if these effects were to happen to the host. You see, the parasite can't maintain normal functions without a host, thats why its a parasite, the host essentially fills the gaps of what it can't do itself. So if there were a parasite who's optimal conditions were a zombie like state, it probably wouldn't infect a human in the first place.

I don't know for sure but I would also think that the complex anatomy of a human being would make it hard for a parasite to manipulate a human the same was as say a beetle or even a bird. If you look at viruses that effect animals, (mad cow, rabis) the effect in a human body is completely different. Usually resulting in death. The default for the human body is pretty much death.

If someone were to become a "zombie" I would say it would have to be something in the mind. Maybe the person "thinks" they're a zombie, much like those crazy fuckers who are convinced they're vampires. I don't know for sure but this is just what I would think.

Don't get me wrong though, we've all fantasized about a zombie apocalypse. Life would be so much more interesting. I'm thinking about it right now actually. Slow zombies though, not fast.

Shrubberyjsc
10-30-2007, 08:51 AM
Slow zombies though, not fast.

I'm sure that fate will honor your request. (Lol)

But yeah, I don't think it's too remote a possibility.

I wouldn't think that the parasite would benefit from stopping the person from eating and breathing.
I meant more of the type that would infect humans with little or no ill effect, and then Natural Selection would favor those strains that changed the host's behavior to better spread the disease.

But in all reality, that could mean any behavior that would spread the parasite would be selected for. Not just attacking the uninfected.

tp500
10-30-2007, 08:53 AM
Quoting: hool10
So you people don't consider being dead if you have bloody eyes and vomit puke that's blood?


That's actually correct; given the amount of blood that is excreted by the zombies in 28 Days Later, they wouldn't last two hours. Infected or not, they still rely on oxygenated haemoglobin for respiration.

You two shouldn't watch movies. They're not made for people to scrutinize to the level you guys do. They're made to enjoy. 28 Days Later is a great movie hool. Im sorry they didn't make it like the real rage virus. Oh wait, it's not real, so Danny Boyle can do whatever he wants with it. Criticize it when it happens and you're running away from dozens of infected people lol.

fiftysevenpercent
10-30-2007, 08:57 AM
Although, as far as a "rage virus" is concerned, I doubt you could make a virus that would have this effect on a human body. All a virus is, is a segment of genes. Technically a virus isn't a live. It's not a living thing. What it does is infect a very specific cell, inject its DNA into that cell, and then it mulitplies at a huge rate. I mean, you have to think about it this way.... Which cells in your body could you even infect to cause; red eyes, rage, disease in your saliva, hunger for human flesh and loss of all upper brain functions at the same time. There isn't a single cell like that.

What is possible though; if you've heard of Charles Joseph Whitman, you'll know he was the guy who shot all those people from that observatory at University of Texas. Well, he constantly complained to doctors, prior to his shooting, that he felt like he was always angry, like really angry. Nobody really took it seriously and he was just left alone. Well on his suicide note after he killed those people, he wrote "please check my brain." When they did, they found in his autopsy that he has a tumor about the size of a golf ball on his amigdala. Having this tumor caused to him to flip out in rages such as this. There have been other cases like this as well. I guess if there was a virus that caused tumors to grow in people's brains it could turn people to rage, but they still arn't mindless and it ultimately leads to their self destruction, defying everything we know about natural selection and evolution.

Eddy_of_the_dead
10-30-2007, 09:39 AM
57% you have realy watched to much discovery channel....
im sad to say....about the rage virus.... i dont think your exatly right about it but yur not wrong either... indeed a virus in not a live .....What it does is infect a very specific cell, inject its DNA into that cell, and then it mulitplies at a huge rate.
like youve sad what if the virus infected that part of your brain which produces adereline ( i spelled that right?) AND rage you have a verry angry fast strong persoon alla 28 days/weeks persoon
im just a simple dutch student in elektronics so i dont know if this is even plausible...but he your the mircobiology majoor dude

fiftysevenpercent
10-30-2007, 10:09 AM
Well, your brain doesn't actually produce adrenaline. It's your adrenal gland, located near your pancreas. There are hormones that tell your body to produce and release adrenaline but you have a limited supply, just like any other fluid in your body. You body makes adrenaline but not as the same rate you would use it. For a virus to infect a cell that told your body to release adrenaline, it would probably be axon (brain) cells. The thing is, there isn't a specific brain cell for each function, What the brain cells do is essentially "fire" which means they send out a particular neurotransmitter (dopeamine, serotonin for example) and axons with those corresponding receivers will continue the chain reaction. Its just a bunch of electricity and chemicals going from one cell to another.

Usually one thing happens if a virus gets to your brain cells, you die.

If that doesn't happen, then I don't know... I guess you could have a virus that somehow caused your body to release adrenaline. The fact is though, you would run out quickly, and adrenaline doesn't really make you a superhuman or anything, true there are stories of amazing things done while in the midst of panic with adrenaline, but for the most of us, its just a special hormone we have to get us out of shitty situations. Adrenaline also has nothing to do with rage, it is involved in our "flight or flight" system, but that is for survival, not to attack. You know what I mean? And if there were a virus to cause brain tumors to piss people off, 99% of the time it would probably not have the "rage" effect or it would just kill the person.

But again, neither of these would explain why you would be infected. It would be a one time case and it wouldn't be contagious. When the "rage infected" person died, it would be game over.

hooray for zombies
10-30-2007, 11:22 AM
I remember hearing on several occasions that humans use a fraction of their actual muscle power (to prevent pain and degradation of muscles) since we have so many experienced people on this board I would like to ask, is it feasible for a virus of some kind to get rid of the blocks preventing people from using their full muscle power? It would weaken them over time, but is it feasible?

fiftysevenpercent
10-30-2007, 11:28 AM
I would think so, You've heard of those kids born without pain receptors right? They always die at really young ages because they can't feel when their muscles are being pushed to their limits, along with having broken legs for weeks at a time and not knowing it. Yeah, it would break your body down fast and cause a short lived life. Pain is our bodies way of getting us to stop so we can heal. I would still think there would be limits though. Just because you don't feel your muscles giving you pain, you can only push them as far as you can go. If you're a 200lb guy who's in pretty good shape, you're not going to be able to lift a car.... no matter what.

And think about when you're like drunk at a club or something. When you fall it doesn't hurt, of sometimes you wake up in the morning and your back is fucked. Its because you didn't feel your body telling you that you were in pain. You felt it the next day but that night you were pretty much doing what your body doesn't usually do. Know what I mean?

hooray for zombies
10-30-2007, 11:37 AM
I get your point about dieing soon, but still, completely feasible to have short lived, but fast and strong, virus zombies? if so then fuck

fiftysevenpercent
10-30-2007, 11:50 AM
You could always just inject yourself or someone with adrenaline from someone else's gland. Or use PCP or some other fucking crazy drug. People on PCP have been known to break out of handcuff with their bare hands, or take several bullets to the chest and keep running at you. Scary shit.

They've also been known to do some other fucked up shit. I heard of a case where a guy was on PCP and he killed and ate his own baby. Other people have skinned themselves. They claim to see spiders and shit under their skin. One guy was found peeling his skin off and feeding it to his dog. Thats why you don't ever take elephant tranquilizers.

No Shelter
10-30-2007, 11:52 AM
How am I worng in so many ways? I don't even think you have seen something dead. I said I'm happy TRS didn't go the generic was as in the typical monkey in a lab scenario.

The infected in 28 days later arn't dead! They are not zombies! TRS even said their infected are like the ones from 28 days later. Monkey in lab scenario has nothing wrong with it, actually TRS is sort of the same. Rabies anyone?

hool10
10-30-2007, 12:39 PM
The infected in 28 days later arn't dead! They are not zombies! TRS even said their infected are like the ones from 28 days later. Monkey in lab scenario has nothing wrong with it, actually TRS is sort of the same. Rabies anyone?

They are and as far as I'm concerned, a person on life support is dead too! You need blood to survive and when you have blood coming out of your eyes and projectile vomiting blood you are dead! The monkey in lab scenario has been overdone many a time in multiple movies. Everybody knows about experiments on monkeys. Everybody knows about the movie "Outbreak" having a deadly abola virus escape. When you die, cells deteriorate at a rapid rate because of lack of oxygen. As such you develop riomortis and stiffen like a plank of wood. Brain signals and electricity in you body fades. You are dead. If there was a zombie scenario first off the zombie could'nt get up because it has rigomortis and no control over movement. If that could happen it's legs would instantly give because it's rotting! Just like an over rotten tomatoe. 28 days later was a good movie to pirate and a good concept. To think it was an amazing movie or try and see if this can actually happen is pretty sad.

Etheallmighty
10-30-2007, 12:50 PM
I lost the 28 days later DVD a while ago, but when I had it there was a special feature and I think I remember it interviewing some scientist or something and him saying that something like that (28 days) has happened in real life, but it just got contained within the lab b4 it got out of control!!!

-someone who has it needs to watch the special features to confirm. I think I remember this correctly, but could be off.

hooray for zombies
10-30-2007, 12:52 PM
When you die, cells deteriorate at a rapid rate because of lack of oxygen. As such you develop riomortis and stiffen like a plank of wood. Brain signals and electricity in you body fades. You are dead. If there was a zombie scenario first off the zombie could'nt get up because it has rigomortis and no control over movement. If that could happen it's legs would instantly give because it's rotting! Just like an over rotten tomatoe. 28 days later was a good movie to pirate and a good concept. To think it was an amazing movie or try and see if this can actually happen is pretty sad.

but... that's the point, they are intelligent at a base level, kind of the way an insect is intelligent, meaning that they still maintain all essential brain and body functions (including breathing, healing, etc)

Shrubberyjsc
10-30-2007, 12:55 PM
They are and as far as I'm concerned, a person on life support is dead too! You need blood to survive and when you have blood coming out of your eyes and projectile vomiting blood you are dead! The monkey in lab scenario has been overdone many a time in multiple movies. Everybody knows about experiments on monkeys. Everybody knows about the movie "Outbreak" having a deadly abola virus escape. When you die, cells deteriorate at a rapid rate because of lack of oxygen. As such you develop riomortis and stiffen like a plank of wood. Brain signals and electricity in you body fades. You are dead. If there was a zombie scenario first off the zombie could'nt get up because it has rigomortis and no control over movement. If that could happen it's legs would instantly give because it's rotting! Just like an over rotten tomatoe. 28 days later was a good movie to pirate and a good concept. To think it was an amazing movie or try and see if this can actually happen is pretty sad.

*Sigh*

Ok... Here we go.

http://www.medterms.com/script/main/art.asp?articl ekey=33438 (http://www.medterms.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=33438)

Read that. That's death. Bleeding out your eyes and vomiting blood is not death.

"Riomortis" Only sets in when you are dead, not when you are bleeding out your eyes or vomiting blood.

The infected horde in L4D and 28 Days Later are plausible. They aren't dead.

Make no mistake, reality is stretched in L4D. The Boss infected each are rife with mythical properties.

I'm just saying your arguments are not even close to relevant.

Have a nice day.

=)

hool10
10-30-2007, 12:56 PM
but... that's the point, they are intelligent at a base level, kind of the way an insect is intelligent, meaning that they still maintain all essential brain and body functions (including breathing, healing, etc)

To survive you need nurishment. Eating just flesh though won't make you grow though but rather get scurvy. Regardless if your dead your cells arn't going to grow and heal because your body can't convert stuff to energy. *I give up on you guys. Your dead your dead. People that have ebola die beucase it just isn't right for your to bleeding out of all your pores. You have only so much blood and you need it to survive. Your dead, your dead. **Anyways, bye guys....

No Shelter
10-30-2007, 01:27 PM
They dont eat flesh lol. Plus if I had a VIRUS and I was PUKING BLOOD, I am not dead I could take some medicine and get better. Oh look honey that lady is sick and she is puking blood, shes dead. Oh and goodbye. You'll be back.

lilsamuraijoe
10-30-2007, 02:33 PM
...and i thought global warming was scary...

The One
10-30-2007, 02:45 PM
Ok what if this can be a reason to why they wouldnt attack themselves.

If the parasite is "Smart" enough to do what it does, then maybe it recognizes another parasite and wont attack. Like a Friendly fire kind of thing.

Or maybe the parasite isnt interested in getting another host thats already been taking over cause its been "Used" up and needs a "Fresher" carrier that hasnt been taken over by another. That could be a reason to why they wouldnt attack each other

No Shelter
10-30-2007, 02:50 PM
I wouldn't mind a zombie apocalypse. Maybe not a Rage Virus one.. but ARHGHG! SCARY.

The One
10-30-2007, 02:51 PM
I wouldn't mind a zombie apocalypse. Maybe not a Rage Virus one.. but ARHGHG! SCARY.
I wouldnt either, to be honest I always wanted one to happen. A rage virus wouldnt be too bad but i wouldnt really want a bastard hell bent on kiling me running towards me. So i'll still with walking zombies

QuotidianTemerity
10-30-2007, 09:51 PM
Technically a virus isn't a live. It's not a living thing.

Semantics.


The infected horde in L4D and 28 Days Later are plausible.



<div class="quote"><div class="quoting">Quoting: QuotidianTemerity;]
That's actually correct; given the amount of blood that is excreted by the zombies in 28 Days Later, they wouldn't last two hours. Infected or not, they still rely on oxygenated haemoglobin for respiration.[/QUOTE]

Eddy_of_the_dead
10-30-2007, 11:48 PM
People that have ebola die beucase it just isn't right for your to bleeding out of all your pores
is puking &quot;bleeding out all of your pores?&quot; no thit the eyer loses blood?? no they where just red because that looks assome....its a movie its only PLAUSIBLE
and for the why do zombies/infected not kill each other?? probaly cos they know that likethat's the point, they are intelligent at a base level,
so they know there own &quot;kind&quot;....i guesss
and 57% thx for yur feedback!!! your like the only one who realy knows of what hes talking about :D!!!

tp500
10-31-2007, 01:23 AM
Ok what if this can be a reason to why they wouldnt attack themselves.
K if you guys are questioning the movie itself for this one, I can answer most of those myself having watched it numerous times.
I think they do not attack eachother because t hey are intelligent to a point. In Days, the black infected who was chained up sat on the ground docile and outstretched his arms as if he needed Jim to help him. But when Jim got close enough, the infected jumped up and tried to grab him and attack. I dunno about you guys, but I'd say dead people wouldn't be that smart. So the infected are intelligent because they are still humans, just infected. They are extremely enraged but there is a virus in their blood which maybe they can sense it in the other infected.

krunsh
10-31-2007, 06:04 AM
the child even talk

Eddy_of_the_dead
10-31-2007, 08:24 AM
indeed he thit
but all togehter to make/mutetate a virus that causes a permenat state of pure rage thats like 10 years of finding a virus that suitible for this then a 30 years op expensive research..........
to long on my watch :D
But maby....maby they have already started........like ........35 years a go .....maby.....

and for those who say: cant wait for this zombie apocolypse!!
yur freaking insane!!!!!!! insane i tell you!!!!!! wtf you WILL lose most of YOUR friends and FAMELY the world will go to shit, anargy will breaks out... no radio no power no internet no games, just all day survival and finding a cure/ other survivors...... yur shall panic and kill those who you love.....cos you need to survive.....
where will you find food? weapons? guns? ammo? a shelter? cos the panic during &quot;the outbreak&quot; shall take the must &quot;victims&quot; so yur in a city whit like 80% of the population trying to take a bite out of ya.... so staying home.... is not a option (dont try to barecade yur self in to the lokal wall mart cos thats probaly already done)

so no fun no yaaa a zombie apocalypse......just shit and hell on earth...

Eddy_of_the_dead
10-31-2007, 08:26 AM
hi hi hi i sound like a preacher!!

Soundboy6
10-31-2007, 10:18 AM
Well, if anything the parasite ideal seem to be the most realistic. And people ague that Zombies are only limited to an animated entity that is physically dead by our interpretation.
But remember that the original zombies of voodoo backing were never considered to be dead. They were thralls at the mercy of the sick fuck of a Shaman who made them that way using a highly concentrated neurotoxin. But they were'nt considered &quot;Dead&quot;, just slightly comatose.

but anyway, Ive discussed the concept of parasitic organisms inflicting a Zombie like
state many times with my friend, and whos to say that said parasites of today wouldnt evolve to such a point in the future. Played Resident Evil 4 lately??? Las Plagas???

Derp :\

Etheallmighty
10-31-2007, 11:37 AM
I lost the 28 days later DVD a while ago, but when I had it there was a special feature and I think I remember it interviewing some scientist or something and him saying that something like that (28 days) has happened in real life, but it just got contained within the lab b4 it got out of control!!!

someone needs to check up on this

Shrubberyjsc
10-31-2007, 12:04 PM
In the first script for 28 DL, Frank was cured of the rage virus by a full body transfusion.

Realizing this was not possible, they changed it.

I kinda like that there's no cure.

The One
10-31-2007, 05:34 PM
I think they do not attack eachother because t hey are intelligent to a point. In Days, the black infected who was chained up sat on the ground docile and outstretched his arms as if he needed Jim to help him. But when Jim got close enough, the infected jumped up and tried to grab him and attack. I dunno about you guys, but I'd say dead people wouldn't be that smart. So the infected are intelligent because they are still humans, just infected. They are extremely enraged but there is a virus in their blood which maybe they can sense it in the other infected.
Blow that bullshit out your head. :P

The One
10-31-2007, 05:37 PM
I kinda like that there's no cure.
Well there couldve been a cure, if in 28 weeks later the one chick wouldve been able to run tests on the one chick's blood then she couldve probably found a vaccine or cure. So there was a possible way to cure or just prevent the spread of it. But the asshole black man general guy had to ruin everything.

Shrubberyjsc
10-31-2007, 06:42 PM
Double posts FTW.

=)

tp500
11-01-2007, 01:14 AM
Quoting: Etheallmighty
I lost the 28 days later DVD a while ago, but when I had it there was a special feature and I think I remember it interviewing some scientist or something and him saying that something like that (28 days) has happened in real life, but it just got contained within the lab b4 it got out of control!!!


someone needs to check up on this

I have the dvd, and I know what your talking about, it was just the Making of 28 Days Later feature. It talked about foot in mouth disease and mad cow, and how it causes these mass viral outbreaks and how easy it would be if it evolved to spread to humans. Danny Boyle just discussed how he thinks that the world could very easily end not by war or global warming, but by something much much faster and much more dangerous.