How many guns will be in the game?

[EPSILON32]

i have heard so many rumors about just 5 new guns but than i have heard 20 new guns can someone please clarify...

[Raydude4115]

I dont really know how many new guns but i can estimate more then 10 or 20 :P

[Bloodshed269]

Probably between 5 or 10.

[Grieverlionhart]

I wonder if there are many stat changes, i noticed the AK47 had over 30 bullets so maybe it holds 50 making it the same as the M16 . . .

[darkmessiah]

I dont really know how many new guns but i can estimate more then 10 or 20 :P

Over 20 guns...?

[ScoobySnax]

Far too many.

[Goldzone]

There are going to atleast be 10 melee weapons, the gun count is the one that is very hard to tell but so far there are 11 guns confirmed.
@ScoobySnax why are you so down abotu L4D2?

[darkmessiah]

@ScoobySnax why are you so down abotu L4D2?

360 Player?

[Goldzone]

I ready don't understand why so many people are down about L4D2?

[darkmessiah]

I ready don't understand why so many people are down about L4D2?

Okay, are you a 360 player?

[Goldzone]

Yeah, my pc is to old to play it.

[7oXic]

Okay, are you a 360 player?

being a 360 player doesn't mean you're automatically not a boycotter, I know a ton of PC players who think the boycotters are stupid as hell and can't wait for L4D2, and I'd bet there are plenty of poor 360 players whining about their non-free DLC and L4D2 as well.

console stereotypes = fail

[darkmessiah]

But are you a 360 player?

[7oXic]

But are you a 360 player?

Technically, L4D is one of the few games I play on my 360(more friends on 360), so yes. I have purchased every other Valve game for PC though, and plan to get both L4D's on PC in the future, so no I'm not some ignorant 360 player who doesn't understand why the boycotter's are raging, I just happen to own it for my 360.

This is all way off topic and irrelevant anyways, do you have a point, or are you just trolling because you're still sour that Valve won't do things your way.

[Goldzone]

Yeah, I am, I already answered.
@7oXic- Yeah am not happy about the new DLC, not bacause it isn't free, but because I will not be able to get it.

[darkmessiah]

Where did you answer?

being a 360 player doesn't mean you're automatically not a boycotter, I know a ton of PC players who think the boycotters are stupid as hell and can't wait for L4D2, and I'd bet there are plenty of poor 360 players whining about their non-free DLC and L4D2 as well.

console stereotypes = fail

Where's the answer??? It just says that you're defending 360 players!

Be clear next time Mr.!

Oh and since you are 360..

"OF COURSE!"

360 Players don't think about free DLC, because there isn't any. They think about the sequel that will come out next year.

[7oXic]

Where did you answer?

being a 360 player doesn't mean you're automatically not a boycotter, I know a ton of PC players who think the boycotters are stupid as hell and can't wait for L4D2, and I'd bet there are plenty of poor 360 players whining about their non-free DLC and L4D2 as well.

console stereotypes = fail

Where's the answer??? It just says that your defending 360 players!

Be clear next time Mr.!

You didn't ask me anything directly, I simply told you that even if he was a 360 player, it would be irrelevant to assume that is why he actually want's L4D2. I've owned both systems for many years and you PC eletists seem to think you understand gaming better than 360 owners, and that everyone else's opinion is below you because of this, it's pathetic.

Once again, I'm not "a 360", hell I probably own more PC games than you can count, and play TF2 almost on a daily basis, so you're misinformed stereotypical bullshit is completely off.

[darkmessiah]

I was talking to Goldwave, sorry for the miscommunication, Mr.!

You're so vain, you probably think this post is about you, don't you, don't you?

-Carly Simon, You're So Vain

Good song, eh?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7B7bVD_DkM4

[Goldzone]

Yeah, my pc is to old to play it.
right there
And What does that have to do with anything, I should be the one conplaining about not getting anything because I can't get user created content.

[7oXic]

I was talking to Goldwave, sorry for the miscommunication, Mr.!

You're so vain, you probably think this post is about you, don't you, don't you?

-Carly Simon, You're So Vain

Good song, eh?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7B7bVD_DkM4

Ah, my point still stands though.

[darkmessiah]

right there
And What does that have to do with anything, I should be the one conplaining about not getting anything because I can't get user created content.

I don't read posts except for the ones I quote and my own, sorry. (Didn't read yours Toxic, sorry.)

Yeah, but you never do, so why complain about something impossible. I use my 360 to be happy with what I got, from the 10 dollar Nazi Zombie maps to the 20 dollar DLC for GTA IV.

My God, people, stop talking about this, this is about the number of guns in the game.

[Goldzone]

you make no sense

[7oXic]

I don't read posts except for the ones I quote and my own, sorry. (Didn't read yours Toxic, sorry.)

Yeah, but you never do, so why complain about something impossible. I use my 360 to be happy with what I got, from the 10 dollar Nazi Zombie maps to the 20 dollar DLC for GTA IV.

My God, people, stop talking about this, this is about the number of guns in the game.

But you did quote mine.. o.0


And yes this is way off topic, sorry :/

[darkmessiah]

I'm really sorry, Toxic just randomly came in, and confused me because he thinks I'm talking to him for God knows why! I'm not burning you, I'm just saying that I got confused, I thought you were an alt of Gold, lol.

Here's the point:

-360 players should not complain, because they will NEVER get an SDK or Map Maker tool, unless the Developers make it for them, which is rare. So be happy!

-360 players are known to be happy with their sequels, and I'm happy for them.

-I'm a 360 player as well, and I LOVE paying for all my DLC while the Nazi Zombie maps are free on the PC. No sarcasm, I still pay for the 360 version because my friends play the 360 version.

I don't wanna fight! Some others want to, but I don't!

[7oXic]

I'm really sorry, Toxic just randomly came in, and confused me because he thinks I'm talking to him for God knows why! I'm not burning you, I'm just saying that I got confused, I thought you were an alt of Gold, lol.

Here's the point:

-360 players should not complain, because they will NEVER get an SDK or Map Maker tool, unless the Developers make it for them, which is rare. So be happy!

-360 players are known to be happy with their sequels, and I'm happy for them.

-I'm a 360 player as well, and I LOVE paying for all my DLC while the Nazi Zombie maps are free on the PC. No sarcasm, I still pay for the 360 version because my friends play the 360 version.
I apologize for the confusion as well, I was under the assumption that you were saying 360 owners didn't understand boycotter's because of whatever reason.

EDITx2: you ninja edited you're post quicker than I posted mine o.0

[ScoobySnax]

Im not a PC.
Im a 360.

[darkmessiah]

I'm not boycotting, I'm just not a happy camper.

From an exclusive 360 player's point of view, I'd be completely HAPPY with the sequel to L4D. Madden does it, COD does it, many popular games do it.

But as a PC player that has played TF2, Day of Defeat, Counterstrike, Battlefield 2, Battlefield 2142, even Crysis, with a 30 dollar addon called Warhead, I would not be happy with this sequel.

I'm sorry. I'm not happy. When I bought Left 4 Dead, I HONESTLY, absolutely HONESTLY thought this game was gonna be here for 5 years, absolutely owning with the addition of new maps constantly, just like TF2.

This is honest. I seriously though L4D was going to be supported like TF2. When I was following it since early 2007, I thought this was going to be the next Counterstrike Source.

I'm sorry.

[7oXic]

I'm not boycotting, I'm just not a happy camper.

From an exclusive 360 player's point of view, I'd be completely HAPPY with the sequel to L4D. Madden does it, COD does it, many popular games do it.

But as a PC player that has played TF2, Day of Defeat, Counterstrike, Battlefield 2, Battlefield 2142, even Crysis, with a 30 dollar addon called Warhead, I would not be happy with this sequel.

I'm sorry. I'm not happy. When I bought Left 4 Dead, I HONESTLY, absolutely HONESTLY thought this game was gonna be here for 5 years, absolutely owning with the addition of new maps constantly, just like TF2.

This is honest. I seriously though L4D was going to be supported like TF2. When I was following it since early 2007, I thought this was going to be the next Counterstrike Source.

I'm sorry.
Well they're releasing Crash Course soon, and may be updating it even more later on, so there isn't anything saying they haven't, only that they haven't yet.

I'm a PC player as well, hell you listed most of my favorite games :p, and I understand how people are pissed that Valve is handling this another way, but (IMO) there isn't any solid reason to assume any of that yet, that of course is WAY off topic and I personally don't want to get into that whole argument again -_-

[darkmessiah]

Yeppers, sounds good, another day!

[Elite]

Its just consolization of L4D franchise. You other PC players need to get over it, there is nothing you can do. Consoles can't have instant updates, so Valve has to make a new game.


Back on Topic.

New guns would be the 3rd tier weapons.

AK-47 the 30 round semi auto sniper rifle, the old L4D shotgun and the nade launcher.

2nd tier would be the SCAR, SPAS 12, Hunting Rifle

1st Tier Silenced Mac-10 pumpshotgun.


SPAS 12 fires slower than the old L4D shotgun which is still ingame.

[darkmessiah]

Its just consolization of L4D franchise. You other PC players need to get over it, there is nothing you can do. Consoles can't have instant updates, so Valve has to make a new game.

Yeah guys! Nothin'! NOTHIN'!

[Bloodshed269]

I was talking to Goldwave, sorry for the miscommunication, Mr.!

You're so vain, you probably think this post is about you, don't you, don't you?

-Carly Simon, You're So Vain

Good song, eh?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7B7bVD_DkM4

I'm WAY to young for that reference.

[darkmessiah]

No problem, I was only a kid when I started loving that song, you can never be too young!

[Jesus123]

Im not a PC.
Im a 360.

I am both.

[Crack5800]

Wow...i'm impressed...this is just his first post and he has 2 pages already...way to go Epsilon...lmfao

I don't know how many weapons...my guesstimate would probably we horribly off....

[yourbadmega]

plenty.
/thread

[Slochk]

69 guns.

[darkmessiah]

Where have you been Slochk? you missed a shitload o' lulz the past few hours.

[PlayBook]

My theory on the new guns is that there won't be a lot of them but they will keep working on new ones until the game comes out. I think there will be 1st tier 2nd tier and third tier weapons that are the ones we have already seen. You know, basically the uzi and pump the equivalents of the power guns from the first game, and the suped-up versions of those guns that we have seen. I believe these guns will be available in similar fashion to the first game in groups where you get to pick the one that you want. I also think that the other new guns that they are adding like the AK and the grenade launcher will be found in other random locations through the game and not stacked similar to the melee weapons. That way only the first person to come across the AK or whatever will be able to pick it up. This way it will temp players to rush ahead of their team-mates in order to find and grab these unique weapons before someone else.
If I had to guess I would say that valve was concentrating on the melee weapons and AI director and had neglected working on many new guns, but after they started receiving feedback from the community they started working on importing, or adding other firearms to the mix. I suppose a lot in this message but I am an intuitive person and tend to suppose correctly more than any mere mortal should.

[Icy Lemon]

I also think that the other new guns that they are adding like the AK and the grenade launcher will be found in other random locations through the game and not stacked similar to the melee weapons. That way only the first person to come across the AK or whatever will be able to pick it up. This way it will temp players to rush ahead of their team-mates in order to find and grab these unique weapons before someone else.


Thats a terrible idea.

[ThoughtThinking]

Im guessing around 20-30

Off topic:Wouldnt it be hilarious if the weapons where over 9,000?

[Slochk]

Where have you been Slochk? you missed a shitload o' lulz the past few hours.

aww dam i did? crap lol

[EPSILON32]

Okay, are you a 360 player?
yes i am a 360 player

[EPSILON32]

my theory on the new guns is that there won't be a lot of them but they will keep working on new ones until the game comes out. I think there will be 1st tier 2nd tier and third tier weapons that are the ones we have already seen. You know, basically the uzi and pump the equivalents of the power guns from the first game, and the suped-up versions of those guns that we have seen. I believe these guns will be available in similar fashion to the first game in groups where you get to pick the one that you want. I also think that the other new guns that they are adding like the ak and the grenade launcher will be found in other random locations through the game and not stacked similar to the melee weapons. That way only the first person to come across the ak or whatever will be able to pick it up. This way it will temp players to rush ahead of their team-mates in order to find and grab these unique weapons before someone else.
If i had to guess i would say that valve was concentrating on the melee weapons and ai director and had neglected working on many new guns, but after they started receiving feedback from the community they started working on importing, or adding other firearms to the mix. I suppose a lot in this message but i am an intuitive person and tend to suppose correctly more than any mere mortal should.
that is a really good idea!

[PlayBook]

Thats a terrible idea.
:( Who do you think you are coming in and answering a rather complex and plausible theory with a simple dismissal. If you think its that terrible you could offer your own ideas or add or subtract from mine to try to get some people offering ideas or suggestions but instead you just come in and try to squelch an idea with a simple (That's a terrible idea.) You could have at least remembered to put an apostrophe in it, but no, you are lazy and kind of an ass.

[TidalSpiral]

:( Who do you think you are coming in and answering a rather complex and plausible theory with a simple dismissal. If you think its that terrible you could offer your own ideas or add or subtract from mine to try to get some people offering ideas or suggestions but instead you just come in and try to squelch an idea with a simple (That's a terrible idea.) You could have at least remembered to put an apostrophe in it, but no, you are lazy and kind of an ass.

He's got frozen citrus in his veins, I was already expecting a pessimist and it's their job to shoot everything down. Kind of like an AA gunner on LSD.

[PlayBook]

I haven't played counter strike but I was wondering what kind and how many weapons were in that game? Is the AK shown in l4d2 game footage similar to the equivalant in that game? If it is, and other weapons already in L4D are similar to others found in that game it may be a good indicator of their intentions of importing other weapons from that game.

[Icy Lemon]

:( Who do you think you are coming in and answering a rather complex and plausible theory with a simple dismissal. If you think its that terrible you could offer your own ideas or add or subtract from mine to try to get some people offering ideas or suggestions but instead you just come in and try to squelch an idea with a simple (That's a terrible idea.) You could have at least remembered to put an apostrophe in it, but no, you are lazy and kind of an ass.

I didn't mean to offend you, i just think encouraging survivors to spread out and split up to look for guns isn't what valve intented. And it would probably cause people to argue over who gets what gun.

[TidalSpiral]

Well there aren't many from CS that would make sense for this game, they won't do too many of the same type of gun and we already have a couple snipers, shotguns, assault rifles, there aren't many more guns that would provide a sensible alternative. Maybe the deagle or a slight zoom AR like the Sig-552.

I'm curious about one thing though... I just realized since we have ammo types now, will the grenade launcher be able to use incendiary ammo? It'd only be for one shot but that'd be pretty hilarious.

[armored cow]

DarkMessiah is becoming extremely trollish lately. I don't think he's going to be here much longer.

OT: It's hard to say how many guns they will add (that you care about). Every melee weapon counts, but I bet every pistol counts, and since you dual wield 2 different pistols it is probably counted as 2 (even though they are the same pistol with different skins I think.

You're so vain, you probably think this post is about you, don't you, don't you?

-Carly Simon, You're So Vain

Good song, eh?

Btw I got the reference :P

[PlayBook]

I didn't mean to offend you, i just think encouraging survivors to spread out and split up to look for guns isn't what valve intented. And it would probably cause people to argue over who gets what gun.
Agreed however in gameplay footage I have seen only one melee weapon sitting in a spot and being taken, and the same with a grenade launcher. They were not stacked and their was only one of each of those so it seems that Valve is trying to separate the good teams from the bad ones. A good team will come upon the cricket bat and grenade launcher lying together and decide who should wield what weapon, or decide that the guy picking up the grenade launcher should also grab the cricket bat so he can hit larger concentrations of horde with grenades but still quickly pick up the bat he has been carrying to defend himself from stragglers. Or whatever the point is having weapons the way I suggested eliminates valve trying to come up with equivalent powered weapons to lay next to each other in a pile and forces teams to compromise and make decisions together. And I DO think valve wants this, after all the new AI director has dynamic pathing that allows the placement of puzzle pieces of map in different arrangements, designed to confuse and possible separate a team that is not coordinated. If they cannot collectively choose a path they will get separated.:p

[Bloodshed269]

that is a really good idea!

No...

[PlayBook]

Well there aren't many from CS that would make sense for this game, they won't do too many of the same type of gun and we already have a couple snipers, shotguns, assault rifles, there aren't many more guns that would provide a sensible alternative. Maybe the deagle or a slight zoom AR like the Sig-552.

I'm curious about one thing though... I just realized since we have ammo types now, will the grenade launcher be able to use incendiary ammo? It'd only be for one shot but that'd be pretty hilarious.
I see what your saying. It is hard to come up with that many weapons that have a different mode of action that make sense for largely killing zombies. In a game like CS they can tweak things like rate of fire, damage, and accuracy and it makes a big difference in the game. Still it might be possible to add to the feel of the game if you found some random weapons that are slightly different, even if they aren't tactically that different, similar to the flying pan vs the cricket bat. Which one do you take when they are so similar? I don't know but its cool to have that choice.

[Warhawk]

Far too many.

Theres no such thing as too many guns unless it's over 9,000

[Geoff Portnoy]

So far, I believe that all the original game's weapons will be making a comeback. This being said, VALVe announced that there would be either 20 or 30 new weapons (Don't Remember). These include the melee weapons, such as the frying pan, Oar/Cricket bat, and the recently announced Katana. New guns include the AK-47, a Mossberg Shotgun, a silenced TMP/Mac10/11, a Grenade Launcher, and what I believe to be either a Sig-550 or an SG-1/G3. A SPAS-12 and an FN SCAR have also been revealed.

[Easton Dark]

There will be...

http://www.canpages.ca/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/dr-evil.jpg

1 billion weapons!

[CrAnKeDHigH]

I also think that the other new guns that they are adding like the AK and the grenade launcher will be found in other random locations through the game and not stacked similar to the melee weapons. That way only the first person to come across the AK or whatever will be able to pick it up. This way it will tempt players to rush ahead of their team-mates in order to find and grab these unique weapons before someone else.

First off, this is a terrible idea. Its a game based on playing as a TEAM, not running off to win a race to the new weapons. Dont get so offended because someone disagree's with you.

And on a side note....

You could have at least remembered to put an apostrophe in it, but no, you are lazy and kind of an ass.

You should probably spell check your own posts before criticizing other people's grammar and spelling.

[xXACACIA89]

First off, this is a terrible idea. Its a game based on playing as a TEAM, not running off to win a race to the new weapons. Dont get so offended because someone disagree's with you.

And on a side note....



You should probably spell check your own posts before criticizing other people's grammar and spelling.

Agreed. Why would encouraging people who already suck at being strategic to go run off and find a better weapon be a good thing? There are already enough assholes that don't play the game the right way... why give them an actual reason to mess up? This would not cause people to think more strategically, it would make it even harder to land a quality game. Not to mention the pre-pubescent boys that populate the 360 version online would have more reasons to shoot teammates that won't give up the gun they want. And FYI, I play both the 360 and PC versions, so there's no need to assume I'm some ignorant 360 player.

But more on topic, I hope there is a significant number of guns to play around with. Imagine the depth and replay value this game would possess if it simply had more options to choose from (and I'm sure valve knows this).

[7oXic]

I haven't played counter strike but I was wondering what kind and how many weapons were in that game? Is the AK shown in l4d2 game footage similar to the equivalant in that game? If it is, and other weapons already in L4D are similar to others found in that game it may be a good indicator of their intentions of importing other weapons from that game.

Well, theres an AK but it's not even CALLED an AK in CSS :p. And no it looks nothing like the one from L4D2, if that was the case I would rage. The only weapon from L4D similar to any in CSS that I remember was the auto shotty, and the 1911's but I think mine were skins XD

[TidalSpiral]

Agreed however in gameplay footage I have seen only one melee weapon sitting in a spot and being taken, and the same with a grenade launcher. They were not stacked and their was only one of each of those so it seems that Valve is trying to separate the good teams from the bad ones. A good team will come upon the cricket bat and grenade launcher lying together and decide who should wield what weapon, or decide that the guy picking up the grenade launcher should also grab the cricket bat so he can hit larger concentrations of horde with grenades but still quickly pick up the bat he has been carrying to defend himself from stragglers. Or whatever the point is having weapons the way I suggested eliminates valve trying to come up with equivalent powered weapons to lay next to each other in a pile and forces teams to compromise and make decisions together. And I DO think valve wants this, after all the new AI director has dynamic pathing that allows the placement of puzzle pieces of map in different arrangements, designed to confuse and possible separate a team that is not coordinated. If they cannot collectively choose a path they will get separated.:p

By the way, welcome to the forums - I see you only have a handful of posts but you state things pretty clearly and intelligently. Now about these weapons I have to agree with you I think it would be much more interesting if only one person can grab certain guns like the grenade launcher. Granted it might be tactically stupid for the Survivors to all grab grenade launchers anyway but the possibility of seeing that would break the whole mood of the game for me so I'm hoping there are guns that only one person can take.

The AK being that way as well makes sense to me too. It sort of adds to the experience, if you happen to stumble upon one you sort of feel special cause nobody else has what you have. In regards to the whole "douchebag team mate running from the group to find special weapon" argument, there are still going to be douches who rush ahead to get to the health / pipe bombs / adrenaline / fire axe / etc. so what difference does a gun make? Besides the other guns are apparently still pretty effective.

[PlayBook]

By the way, welcome to the forums - I see you only have a handful of posts but you state things pretty clearly and intelligently. Now about these weapons I have to agree with you I think it would be much more interesting if only one person can grab certain guns like the grenade launcher. Granted it might be tactically stupid for the Survivors to all grab grenade launchers anyway but the possibility of seeing that would break the whole mood of the game for me so I'm hoping there are guns that only one person can take.

The AK being that way as well makes sense to me too. It sort of adds to the experience, if you happen to stumble upon one you sort of feel special cause nobody else has what you have. In regards to the whole "douchebag team mate running from the group to find special weapon" argument, there are still going to be douches who rush ahead to get to the health / pipe bombs / adrenaline / fire axe / etc. so what difference does a gun make? Besides the other guns are apparently still pretty effective.
Thank you tidal you made the same argument that I was going to make in response to those people who hate my idea. Also I am not just going entirely on guess-work here. I must reiterate that I have seen game play footage of a person picking up a grenade launcher and it disappearing. This cleary indicates that, at least in its current playable form, some weapons are not stacked and only one is available. I also said that if valve were worried about people not working together they wouldn't have gone to the trouble of making dynamic pathing a major addition to gameplay. Clearly this will cause confusion and arguing for teams that aren't coordinated. It seems that you read the first posting I wrote and stopped there because I did make this argument already and you didn't address it. Also if you are worried about getting a good game, maybe you need more friends as team-mates so that all of these new things become exciting elements to add strategy to the game rather than more things that you grumble about when you are playing with newbies, people who are selfish, or people who do not communicate.

[xXACACIA89]

Thank you tidal you made the same argument that I was going to make in response to those people who hate my idea. Also I am not just going entirely on guess-work here. I must reiterate that I have seen game play footage of a person picking up a grenade launcher and it disappearing. This cleary indicates that, at least in its current playable form, some weapons are not stacked and only one is available. I also said that if valve were worried about people not working together they wouldn't have gone to the trouble of making dynamic pathing a major addition to gameplay. Clearly this will cause confusion and arguing for teams that aren't coordinated. It seems that you read the first posting I wrote and stopped there because I did make this argument already and you didn't address it. Also if you are worried about getting a good game, maybe you need more friends as team-mates so that all of these new things become exciting elements to add strategy to the game rather than more things that you grumble about when you are playing with newbies, people who are selfish, or people who do not communicate.

I'm not sure how letting the director change the maps around a little bit will cause everyone to go into a frenzy. Its easy to stay together and if people aren't that just means that they would have sucked either way, regardless of whether or not the map changed at all.

This way it will temp players to rush ahead of their team-mates in order to find and grab these unique weapons before someone else.

I never said I wanted to see 4 people with grenade launchers. But there are ways around "tempting" people to go running ahead for guns. Last I checked, running ahead gets everyone killed, and you clearly implied that it would somehow be a good thing for people to do this? No thank you.

Also, stop assuming that because I said it would be hard to find a quality game that I "don't have enough friends as teammates." Thats ignorant and I have plenty of friends to play the game with, but there are times when nobody is available/online and its easier to just join a random group of people. You can't support your argument with such irrelevant points, because the amount of friends you have that play a certain game shouldn't ever factor into the way that game is developed.

[Slochk]

long post is long

[Bloodshed269]

There will be enough.

[Infest0125]

Enough so that it is a slightly new experience.
Just too little so it isn't confusing to differences.
Too little to keep the boycotters satisfied.

In all seriousness, I dunno.

[Ouroboros Omega]

All I care to know know is that there may or may not be a revolver in L4D2 (there had better be >:3 ).

[Slochk]

All I care to know know is that there may or may not be a revolver in L4D2 (there had better be >:3 ).

that'd be nice, i wonder if they will do a .40 s&w or a .357??? hmm....

[Ouroboros Omega]

that'd be nice, i wonder if they will do a .40 s&w or a .357??? hmm....

Knowing Valve it will be a .357 to reference Half-Life 2, that and they will be able to re-cycle the sound from HL2 like how they re-cycled the TF2 grenade launcher to make the L4D2 grenade launcher (I think they used the base design and the sound of the TF2 grenade launcher).

Would be nice though, for sure.

[Slochk]

Knowing Valve it will be a .357 to reference Half-Life 2, that and they will be able to re-cycle the sound from HL2 like how they re-cycled the TF2 grenade launcher to make the L4D2 grenade launcher (I think they used the base design and the sound of the TF2 grenade launcher).

Would be nice though, for sure.

dont forget the scouts bat as the same as l4d2 bat :D, and it will probally be a .357

[Drjanitor]

Ah, well reusing sounds ain't so bad, I mean if they somewhat revamp the .357 shootin' sound then I'm cool. But the baseball bat so far could use more work, Cause I don't know why, but I hate being reminded of scouts from TF2. freaking Force-A-Nature!, what a cheap way of getting kills.

[Bloodshed269]

Ah, well reusing sounds ain't so bad, I mean if they somewhat revamp the .357 shootin' sound then I'm cool. But the baseball bat so far could use more work, Cause I don't know why, but I hate being reminded of scouts from TF2. freaking Force-A-Nature!, what a cheap way of getting kills.

How dare they use something Valve implimented into the game to use!!

[Drjanitor]

Hell yes, that's what I'm talking about. Naw, just kidding, it's okay to use, but just not every single round, cause the knockback is annoying. But yea, I just think that the should make a totally new sound for the metal baseball bat.

[Ouroboros Omega]

dont forget the scouts bat as the same as l4d2 bat :D, and it will probally be a .357

The fire axe is probably also a reference to the pyro and the cricket bat is reference to Shawn of the Dead.
Hmmm...
There are a whole bunch of references here.

[Lunatic Brandon]

Hopefully the AK has more bullet penetration then the SCAR or whatever the 50 round assault rifle is.

[Ouroboros Omega]

It probably will to compensate for the lower ammo count.
I heard they are also implementing a tier 1 rifle.

[Drjanitor]

Man, If I had a choice between the tier 1 shotgun or smg, I would probably take the hunting rifle, cause It's powerful at any range (But less effective at short), It's like the first hunting rifle (Crouch to get the perfect shot, the routine of sniping), and it probably still has a high penetration for a tier 1! But, until we get some videos or info,
I have to say: "I shall wait and see."

[SRXSniper58]

i dunno but i want to do this
(attached image)
to him
(right picture)
OT:And zombies
So then we can use it to make them CRY SUM MOAR

[Ouroboros Omega]

One thing is for sure.
We need more guns.
>:3

[Drjanitor]

I don't know man, I think we sort of have enough guns as is, I mean we practically have 3 tiers of weapons.
First tier(Pistols, Smg, Shotgun, Hunting rifle (Maybe))
Second Tier(Autoshotgun, Assault Rifle, Hunting Rifle)
Third tier(Franchi Spas-12, FN Scar, Ak-47, and Heckler & Koch HK41 (Modded?))

Then you got explosives (M79 grenade launcher, Pipebombs, Molotovs, a possible fourth?)
And of course, our new misc. items (Medkits, Pills, Adrenaline, Ammo kit, maybe more stuff)

[Ouroboros Omega]

I though the third tier was experimental right now?
Either way, I think a tier 3 AR (or MG) would have to be an M-249 or something crazy like that.

[Drjanitor]

Yea, I think the third tier is too, but if it was real, that would probably be it, also don't forget, the (Rumored) magnum that they will throw into the chaos will make a big change for those "Downed" moments.

[Ouroboros Omega]

Yea, I think the third tier is too, but if it was real, that would probably be it, also don't forget, the (Rumored) magnum that they will throw into the chaos will make a big change for those "Downed" moments.

You feel lucky PUNK?!?
Well?!? Do ya... PUNK?!?
,etc... hehehe