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MadMan
12-05-2007, 06:06 PM
I dont remember where but about a month ago i read somthing about them adding more boss infected types in to mix it up a bit.. insted of knowing what boss infected there are all the time, its random choice out of like... 8 or so..

I dont know if there's a topic about this(i havnt been on the forum for quite some time), or wether it is true or not... But what do you think the other Boss infected could be? like... special abilitys or whatever... Because my creatice self cant think of anything else.

krunsh
12-05-2007, 06:51 PM
1: The screamer

(the kind of monster seen in Silent hill)
A human like creature with burned flesh that live every moment of his "life" in pain. a normal claw attack or maybe a melee weapon, and the ability to scream to stun all survivor in range. could be fun if it was always screamin or "crying" out loud while moving around so you can hear him coming.

2: the sleeper

A small and thin infected girl (maybe a child...) who can fake death. She could not kill anyone, but a single bite (or sting) from her paralize the target wich then fall "asleep" until healed. The whole attack and effect dont make a single noise wich is the only chance for her to make a quick bite, flee, and fake death with other dead infected. The survivor who his bitten have a sudden black out acting like a Black flashbang effect so he can only guess if he want to shoot at her... So she bite, flee and watch the other infected take out the easy prey (the survivor recover is vison quickly when he is on the ground but can't move).

I dont know if the game allow such thing (but halflife do so...), but she could be able to carry dead corps to create hide spot for her... or for the "sleeping" survivor if she has not been seen by the other... Of course this would need a change in the "glowing trought wall thing"... maybe an alert could be send to the others, but they could not see him anymore. (follow the beating sound :p)

3: a trap idea... (not the best idea...)

A zombie boss who can place something (a smell?) on the ground that spawn some more infected. They will wait at this place to ambush the survivor. so he can spawn some infected in many place in a house and when he want to, they all rush in the main room to attack the survivor from all side...


Just some quick idea...

MrIrony
12-05-2007, 07:42 PM
Instead of a goo that attracts the Infected, how about a goo that traps the Survivors? The boss could spit some sort of glue-like bile that would immobilize their feet.

The Ransacker: looks and acts just like a regular infected with no special movements, but instead of doing damage with his attack he ransacks the Survivor's ammo supply.

The Mimic: able to blend in like the Hunter, but is also able to make sounds exactly like the Survivors (cries of help, found ammo, etc... Whatever might attract the others).

The Spider: can crawl on more walls than the other Infected and can walk across ceilings. He can also create sticky, temporary net-like webs to either trap or impede the Survivors.

The Frail: Immune to bullets; can only be killed with melee attacks.

The Weaver: Can produce a nearly-invisible toxic gas cloud that causes the Survivors to hallucinate.

Dead Fish
12-05-2007, 08:31 PM
Btw, new boss infected have been confirmed (as well as known for a longer time, methinks) in the magazine article, showing pictures of t3h Cornfield.

Eddy_of_the_dead
12-06-2007, 12:05 AM
new boss infected have been confirmed
so tell me do you know what they are called?

Puscifer
12-06-2007, 12:18 AM
1.The Spitter

Hes really fast and can double jump like the scout in tf2, and spits fast little projectiles of blood at the survivours, atracting a 3rd of the infected the boomer vomit does:)

2.The Heater

Extremely deformed and burnt Infected (smoke trails coming off his body) with the ability to breath fire:P

3.The Shifter (i really like this idea)

Hes like a spy infected, with the ability to disguise himself as a survivour or as different boss, also has the ability to cloak:)

Puscifer
12-06-2007, 12:22 AM
The Spider: can crawl on more walls than the other Infected and can walk across ceilings. He can also create sticky, temporary net-like webs to either trap or impede the Survivors.

The Weaver: Can produce a nearly-invisible toxic gas cloud that causes the Survivors to hallucinate.

i realllly like both of those:)

Dead Fish
12-06-2007, 12:34 AM
so tell me do you know what they are called?

No, unfortunately not. :/ I'm not even sure wether TRS knows yet, what kind of Boss Infected or weapons/campaigns they will add. But they vowed to keep 'em comming. :)

It's at the end of the article in this thread (http://www.left4dead411.com/forums/index.php?action=vthread&forum=2&topic=1405).

Kazary
12-06-2007, 03:31 AM
i definately think there should be a type that creates the sort of effect of a flash bang, where past images are imprinted on the surivivor, so that the images blur, unless the survivor doesn't move their head, a bit like the tranquilizser effect in the n64 verson of perfect dark. anyone remember this?

How the effect is placed on a member, like a hit from a melee, or a hit from distance or a gas cloud, but it would be very disorientating, and obviously the effect wouldn't last long (don't want it being really annoying), but if survivors are in a bind where they are up against many infected normal types it could proove to be frightning, as the bluring of images means you need longer to tell who's infected, whos your teammates, and aiming is harder as you move your sights to adjust accuracy, your image will blur and disorientate you more.

Puscifer
12-06-2007, 03:48 AM
How the effect is placed on a member, like a hit from a melee, or a hit from distance or a gas cloud, but it would be very disorientating, and obviously the effect wouldn't last long so its really annoying, but in a bind where they are up against many infected normal types it could proove to be frightning, as the bluring of images means you need longer to tell who's infected, whos your teammates, and aiming is harder as you move your sights to adjust accuracy, your image will blur and disorientate you more.


Brilliant idea, like ur almost infected with traces coming off everything in sight making it impossible to aim at all the infected running at u:)

engagequadlaser
12-06-2007, 04:20 AM
They said they would LIKE to add more boss infected and weapons at some point in the future. Nothing however has been confirmed, let alone actually coded yet.

Eddy_of_the_dead
12-06-2007, 04:50 AM
.The Shifter (i really like this idea)

Hes like a spy infected, with the ability to disguise himself as a survivour or as different boss, also has the ability to cloak:)
then hes better than the hunter :D
well that cant be right?!

frogopus
12-06-2007, 06:02 AM
They said they would LIKE to add more boss infected and weapons at some point in the future. Nothing however has been confirmed, let alone actually coded yet.

The developers seemed real excited about adding new boss Infected but it won't be done before release.

Dead Fish
12-06-2007, 06:06 AM
Hes like a spy infected, with the ability to disguise himself as a survivour or as different boss, also has the ability to cloak:)

He can also stabb you in the back for a critical one-hit-kill and put sappers on your Sentry Guns without blowing his cover... Oh wait!

:P

No Shelter
12-06-2007, 08:54 AM
How do these infected bosses come form a rabies virus? lol

Puscifer
12-06-2007, 09:34 AM
How do these infected bosses come form a rabies virus? lol


how does the hunters pounce, or smokers tongue?

No Shelter
12-06-2007, 10:10 AM
Thats what I was talking about.

krunsh
12-06-2007, 11:04 AM
I like the spider idea, but without the web maybe...

Armored_Zombie_Cow
12-06-2007, 11:10 AM
The Frail: Immune to bullets; can only be killed with melee attacks.

The Weaver: Can produce a nearly-invisible toxic gas cloud that causes the Survivors to hallucinate.
these are really cool...second one is neat, like they would see infected coming from places, but no1 else would see them! taht would be so cool! and i mean like, its not blurry or anything, and u dont know youve been hit with it, so ur just shooting nothing and your teammates are like wtf is he doing?
i definately think there should be a type that creates the sort of effect of a flash bang, where past images are imprinted on the surivivor, so that the images blur
i think this could be cool if it was like something that created a delay, that would be so confusing...like say u turn right using ur mouse; the actual action onscreen wouldnt even happen for another 2 seconds...u really wouldnt be able to aim unless u stood still and just shot...(what i mean by this effect is that when u turn, u HAVE ACTUALLY turned, but u just dont see it.. so u could accidentally shoot a teammate and think u are still aiming forward

No Shelter
12-06-2007, 11:32 AM
Maybe something creepy where you only see the creatures glowing red eyes (invisible). Ex. you are walking down a dark alley and you thought you heard something and all of a sudden two faint(or bright) red eyes appear and you get attacked instantly and are brought down.

Blue Domino
12-06-2007, 12:31 PM
1. The Ghost
This guy would have the ability to move through walls and he could grab the survivors through walls (with his arms and head exposed) biteing down on them. Other people would have to shoot him off just like a hunter. He might also be able to attack a survivor from below. Doing no damage, but freezing them in place untill they could mele his hands off their legs. The wall walk would act sort of like a sprint bar, and could be used in spurts and recharge slowly. There would be some walls he could just not go through (level boundarys ect)

2. The Mimic
This guy would look like a slightly messed up survivor (the skin would be randomly chosen as one of the 4 on spawn.), except he would be able to mimic suvivor shouts and "fake" being downed. If you looked at him for a second you could tell he was not really a survivor, but if you just rushed in.. as soon as you started helping you up he would turn and start attacking you with a move similar to the hunters attack (he would need to be shot off)

3. The Commander
This guy would look like a normal zombie, so he would be hard to tell apart. He could issue limited commands to zombies around him, such as "hold position", 'Follow me", "Attack" ect. He would also increase the health and attack of zombies around him. The commands would cause him to let out a distinctive roar sound, so nearby survivors would know he was around.

Armored_Zombie_Cow
12-06-2007, 02:22 PM
hmm lets take a step back and lesson down the detail...some of these ideas are way too detailed and that certain boss would have a huge advantage over the others. we need simpler ideas i think that are more like the ones already in the game...
anyone got an idea for another super boss? (as in, the Tank)

gorgoth
12-06-2007, 02:32 PM
Ok so I am not copying whoever posted this before, me, I have talked of this idea before.

So basically it's an infected that plays dead, and can get up when the survivors go by. It could hide in a pile of dead bodies, to be littered around the map, or just on the floor. It would have a fair amount of health, maybe half a clip of life. So it could also run at you w/ other infected, fall down like its dead, then get back up and run at the survivors backs. it would just claw/bite/kick, no special attacks. Also, I'm thinking the A.I. could kinda control it until the survivors got nearby and then a message like the"Want to play as the tank?" would appear or something of the like. Just imagine having to shoot every single body in the head, you'd really have to pick your shots and decide if it was a boss or just a dead body :D Also, methinks this should be for all infected, we know how arms/legs, heads can be destroyed, but a zombie should be able to survive w/o arms or even a leg (Crawling zombies rock!)

gorgoth
12-06-2007, 02:35 PM
Arrmored Zombie Cow/the guy w/ the weaver idea. It could make hallucinations of not just zombies but of your team mates getting killed/ crazy zombification hallucinations, so you'd either start healing nothing or shooting your teammates!

Armored_Zombie_Cow
12-06-2007, 02:36 PM
lol nice gorgoth

Mibtao
12-06-2007, 03:45 PM
how about a choker/strangler. he could crawl around on all fours and be able to climb on some walls and roofs, then drop down on survivors and start choking them. instead of damaging the survivors normal health it could use "bleed out" health, potentially killing the survivor but has to take 300 health instead of normal 100. if knocked off the survivor's health is unaffected by the attack. OR it could go to fallen survivors and finish them off whilst the other survivors are fighting other infected.

lerlerson
12-06-2007, 03:48 PM
Well, I started a thread on the Steam Forums about this, and I feel the need to mention that I e-mailed Turtle Rock just to see if this really was true, I mean, chances are it was, but there was always a slim chance Games for Windows got it wrong. They didn't.

Here, if you want to see the ideas generated by the dudes on the Steam Forums: http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.p hp?t=628329 (http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=628329)

There's some good ideas. Anyhow, I'll post the idea I had, similiar to the Screamer for Krunsh.

Screecher:

Well, I think this is a given and will likely be implemented. Why is this? Well, think about it: Turtle Rock puts large emphasis on how important it is to be able to hear the others, and the Screecher (or Screamer, but it seems everything is going to end in 'er' besides the Tank. (Tanker?)) is there to stop it.

The Screecher is a woman (one woman Boss Infected= Not enough, especially if you can't actually play as that Boss Infected) in a punk outfit, with defining features. The thing about this punk is, is since it's supposed to blend into an attack as best as possible, the only really defining part of the outfit itself is the hair- it'll always be something like a purple mohawk, or blue spikey hair. It's randomized. The punk is incredibly skinny, and not muscular at all.

The Screecher, well, Screeches. It has its main melee attack, like all Boss Infected, and then it has its Screech. When it Screeches, you get dizzy and a sharp high-pitched noise covers all the other noise. On top of your character being dizzy and having your aim thrown off, everything becomes brighter than usual, although it doesn't completely blind you, it just throws off your sight.

The Screecher itself is incredibly vulnerable, and a shot or two from any weapon will kill it, due to the slightly overpowered nature of its Screech. The Screecher is fast and agile, and as such it is very fast (although not as fast as the Hunter appears to be) and can jump fairly high, and can survive high jumps down, although she loses speed when she hits the ground. It is also weak, and as such can't do things a normal Boss Infected would be able to do, such as break down a door or blockade.

When The Screecher dies, it doesn't actually die initially, even when it's out of health, although once it's out of health the player loses control of her. When it runs out of health, it gains a speed boost and tries to run away, and if it isn't shot immediately, it'll Screech loudly, causing the Infected to mass to that area. Even if the Screecher isn't shot immediately, she'll still end up dying after five seconds of screeching.

And that's my $0.02

krunsh
12-06-2007, 06:37 PM
a good one :) lerlerson

basic
12-06-2007, 06:56 PM
i like the thought of a boss that disorients, confuses the survivors, and cuts off their communication... but dressed in punk? with blue mohawk? cmon...

i also like the mimic or whatever it was. being able to imitate survivors sounds (not necessarily look like them) and lure them into traps would be awesome. it would be useless against a well knit team, but if a team gets split up that'd be a great time to be that boss

Shrubberyjsc
12-06-2007, 07:09 PM
If the dead bodies are randomly distributed around the level, then I'd really love an infected type that plays dead.

Also, I'd love it if every once in a while, an infected would get back up after you thought he was dead. (They already do get back up if you just melee them), but I mean that their arm gets blown off, but their adrenalin makes them get up and hit you with their other arm.

=D

Puscifer
12-06-2007, 09:11 PM
cmon guys The Heater!!! a fire breathing Infected!!! :)

*someones been playing too much tf2* :)

Maybe an Infected Fireman with his uniform on and his tank on his back is like melted into his back, and his mask is all smashed and melted into his face:P


raaar

Eddy_of_the_dead
12-06-2007, 09:41 PM
cmon guys The Heater!!! a fire breathing Infected!!! :)
nah that just wont do man...

Puscifer
12-06-2007, 10:11 PM
nah that just wont do man...

hmm yea i guess ur right...

ok ok... get ready...

The Pimp

He wears a big long purple trentch coat and a purple hat with a feather in it, he has control over the normal infected and can make them stand on the corners selling there bodies!!!

Eddy_of_the_dead
12-06-2007, 10:59 PM
The Pimp
..... sigh....

Puscifer
12-07-2007, 12:19 AM
..... sigh....

rofl, i thought that was a good idea lol

think i'll just leave the game to TRS though now tbh;)

Eddy_of_the_dead
12-07-2007, 06:35 AM
think i'll just leave the game to TRS though now
now thats a good idea!! :D

basic
12-07-2007, 07:08 AM
does the rage virus thing-a-ma-jig spread to animals? EH? EH?

think abooouuuttt itttt

Shrubberyjsc
12-07-2007, 08:47 AM
honestly, I can't think up any new infected with interesting powers, the only thing I might like to see would be the one that plays dead and maybe a police/military infected with body armor on.

The One
12-07-2007, 09:32 AM
The Prostitute

Defeats survivors through aids and herpies

krunsh
12-07-2007, 10:20 AM
animal infected could be fun, but maybe not as boss.

Armored_Zombie_Cow
12-07-2007, 02:45 PM
animal infected could be fun, but maybe not as boss.
nah! boss animals would be sweet!
who wouldnt want to be a rabid dog! (basically "mutated" into a wolf/bear majigger)
u jump offa building, into the group, then lunge at them and clamp down on their larynx

basic
12-07-2007, 03:48 PM
yeah you wouldnt be a straight up animal just as a smoker or tank isnt a straight up human...

some kind of crazy mutant animal thing...



SMOKER AINT GOT SHIT ON INFECTED HYPNOTOAD

Sifer2
12-08-2007, 03:51 AM
Alot of these ideas are too good in comparison to the existing boss's. Thus wont ever happen unless the devs have a horrible sense of balance. Probably the one's that have a chance of happening is the one with the spider webs or goo that slows survivors down.

I guess if I had to make one up I would say maybe have another special limited spawn boss infected like the Tank. It would be a Queen an she could heal other Infected in range an lay eggs that spawn swarms of nasty headcrab type things that are under her control. Sort of how gordon controls the ant lions with that gland.

Eddy_of_the_dead
12-08-2007, 04:59 AM
The Prostitute

Defeats survivors through aids and herpies
what is that supose to make me gigle or something?

Dead Fish
12-08-2007, 05:02 AM
what is that supose to make me gigle or something?


Also, what about Zoey? There'd have to be a male version too... :P

Eddy_of_the_dead
12-08-2007, 05:03 AM
What about Zoey? Should there be a male version too? :P
... sigh..... puberty....... siiigghh....

Gforcemember45
12-08-2007, 05:41 AM
Not puberty eddy, just idiocy.

Dead Fish
12-08-2007, 05:57 AM
Hey, take it easy. I wasn't serious.

basic
12-08-2007, 06:00 AM
zoey is the whore of the survivors... if you're low on health you can bang her and get full health, and she'll give you all of her ammo

Shrubberyjsc
12-08-2007, 06:19 AM
/Facepalm

basic
12-08-2007, 07:31 AM
lol

Eddy_of_the_dead
12-08-2007, 07:54 AM
im not even respond to that cos its gay and stupid...

Nemesis_vs_Leon
12-08-2007, 03:08 PM
Slime:
A goo blob that grows. When it grows to full size (in 5 seconds), it explodes into 3-5 more globs. The new globs start as small as the original, small, but they soon grow and explode into even more globs! It's more of a trap, but you'd have to shoot each glob once or twice to destroy it (that's twice to destroy a big glob with the pistol, and once with any other weapon and any other size)

Evil Side:
Remember in Silent Hill when the sirens sound and the fog turns to darkness? Well, the same thing happens! Every 20 min it switches between normal and darkness. The elapsed time is saved between levels to keep it going (i.e. if it reset every time then a 20 min level would never see the darkness, and you can sometimes start a level in darkness this way). The darkness simply transforms everything into metal fence and makes only boss monsters appear, and the bosses appear slightly more often.

RED PYRAMID:
completely self explanatory and completely necessary!

NEMESIS:
same as Red Pyramid

TYRANT:
same yet again.

LICKER:
even more necessary than the previous 3 bosses mentioned! A smoker and hunter replacement at the same time XD. Of course, you could just switch the smoker and hunter models with a licker model.

in other words... every resident evil and silent hill monster yay!

KIRBY:
he can kill you in one bite then copies your gun and starts shooting the rest of your team with whatever gun you had XDXDXD HE CAN ALSO FLY YAY!

Gforcemember45
12-10-2007, 05:28 AM
it was all good until you mentioned Kirby, Leon.

Kazary
12-11-2007, 02:58 AM
The Sexy!:

this boss monster turns every other infected into the 100 most sexiest people you've ever seen, all in their underwear or skimpy swinsuits, and when they are close to you, insted of them looking like they are slashing away at you, they all look like they love you and want to kiss you and love you forever! (in reality your dying from hits :D ) so a sea of sexy women (or men if your a girl, but NO GIRLS ON THE INTERWEBS ANYWAY) in their sexy clothing and chasing you down just to mob you and give you a good sexy time! :D

...I think this'll cause too many people to mass suicide...

MadMan
12-14-2007, 09:36 PM
I think this thread went to the shit when the one mentioned protitutes and herpies.

But here are the ones i thought were good :D

The one that looks kidna like a survivor and plays dead calling for aid, but when a survivor tries to heal him/her it like does a hunter pounce or whatever, im sure that one would take me do a bit of a wee.

The punk one was rad whoever said that

and the spider : O.

And now for my shitty idea :)

You know in terminator 2... how the bad terminator is in the mental hospital place and like turns into the floor... and then... sorta stands up from the ground and kills the guy with the coffee lol... well like that, with normall melee attacks and not spicky hands and fingers... tho that would be cool.

My idea sucks :)

Eddy_of_the_dead
12-15-2007, 12:44 AM
I think this thread went to the shit when the one mentioned protitutes and herpies.
indeed
and the punk is a realy great idea

Eddy_of_the_dead
12-15-2007, 12:50 AM
a idea : the shape shifter
changes shape into a human thats is dead or left behind
in that way the shape shifter can get realy close to the other humans and kill them 1 by 1
the probleem is... how do you know who to trust and who not??
if the shapeshifter is lucky the whole team whipe them selfes out cos no 1 knows who is good and who is bad-ass