View Full Version : Mysterious new virus in the Ukraine
Waterboy2go
10-30-2009, 03:59 PM
http://zik.com.ua/en/news/2009/10/29/202374
"“We have sent the analyses to Kyiv. We don’t believe it’s the swine flue. Neither do we know what kind of pneumonia it is,
Borysevych stressed. Viral tests can last from one to two weeks. They are complicated and not done in Lviv. The course of the disease was very quick. The symptoms included very high temperature and short-wind cough."
Most people die in 5 to 6 days from it? If i read the article correctly.
Ukraine to be QUARANTINED
http://trancy.net/2009/10/30/october-30-ukraine-ua-shutdown/
Updates: (Read deeper into the thread for more updates)
Swine flu officially ruled out
http://www.rnw.nl/english/article/mysterious-virus-hits-ukraine
WTF is going on?
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http://mignews.com.ua/en/articles/376537.html
A closed meeting has been held in Ivano-Frankivsk, at which participants agreed that epidemic of the so-called "pneumonic plague" is being spread throughout Ukraine. But the problem is its form is unknown, it is ATYPICAL nobody knows how to treat it.
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Possible link to Baxter! (Second paragraph)
http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.net/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?noframes;read=230223
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WHO Team Now On the Ground In Ukraine, Results will be posted here!
N0sySh00ter
10-30-2009, 04:10 PM
gees, what other flu/disease/virus is going to pop in the world?
OhComeOnNate
10-30-2009, 04:11 PM
At first sign of zombie apocalypse. Start preparing.
OT:But yeah what could really kill people that fast? Their immune systems should be able to last a little longer unless it's some toxin that ravages your body...
N0sySh00ter
10-30-2009, 04:16 PM
At first sign of zombie apocalypse. Start preparing.
I better do my life-wishes before a zombie apocalypse or im gonna be 1 mad zombie.
BlackCat
10-30-2009, 04:17 PM
I need to finish reading my Zombie Survival Guide before it's too late! lol
OhComeOnNate
10-30-2009, 04:22 PM
Drat. I didn't pick up a copy of the new ZSG:Recorded Attacks. Meh the original should be fine right?
SlainPwner666
10-30-2009, 04:25 PM
I've got my shit prepared. Bring on the zeds.
hunterhunter
10-30-2009, 05:46 PM
FU*K........can't this wait till after nov.23 :mad:
Crack5800
10-30-2009, 05:53 PM
Better head to my grandpa's house and start sorting through his arsenal of weapons :D
Deadly
10-30-2009, 06:12 PM
They die in 5 to 6 days, but just wait another 5 or 6 and they will start to be coming back! Just you wait! They've covered up that last part
Crack5800
10-30-2009, 06:14 PM
Okay...let's go ahead and start planning....
Anyone have any ideas where to meet to escape once the outbreak hits??????
Boojangels
10-30-2009, 06:16 PM
They die in 5 to 6 days, but just wait another 5 or 6 and they will start to be coming back! Just you wait! They've covered up that last part
Or maybe our world is virtual reality. In the real Ukraine, people are being killed off by something that kills them pretty fast. Perhaps this is the actual way people die from mysterious diseases. It's only a matter of time until they find our real bodies in our countries.
BlackCat
10-30-2009, 06:23 PM
^what??
Boojangels
10-30-2009, 06:27 PM
^what??
HOW ELSE WOULD YOU EXPLAIN IT? Bacteria? Virus cells? HORSESHIT!
Deadly
10-30-2009, 06:36 PM
HOW ELSE WOULD YOU EXPLAIN IT? Bacteria? Virus cells? HORSESHIT!
It all makes sense now
Shadow
10-30-2009, 08:46 PM
How come whenever a new disease comes out everyone always makes that lame ass "Uh oh, zombie time" joke.
It has been accurate so far about 0 for the 4,000,000 + diseases out there, I know you want zombies but if it ever happens it will be man that makes it happen, not nature.
Waterboy2go
10-30-2009, 08:54 PM
How come whenever a new disease comes out everyone always makes that lame ass "Uh oh, zombie time" joke.
It has been accurate so far about 0 for the 4,000,000 + diseases out there, I know you want zombies but if it ever happens it will be man that makes it happen, not nature.
Yea, I know this is a zombie gaming forum, but this is serious.
Keptron
10-31-2009, 10:44 PM
Well, to tell the truth, I think this biological weapon war wasn't far to begin. Best way to exterminate a massive amount of enemies
Waterboy2go
10-31-2009, 11:00 PM
Don't expect any major news on this until Monday when the news stations get back.
I have heard some rumors over the weekend about this I'm not too sure if I should share here, could cause some people to freak.
Deadly
10-31-2009, 11:04 PM
This sounds like a job for PANDEMIC 2
http://www.addictinggames.com/pandemic2.html
Elite
10-31-2009, 11:53 PM
SHUT DOWN EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111
On a serious note: Why are there so many killer viruses coming out now? Have we finally reached the point where we will all get killed off by the effects of over population?
Shadow
11-01-2009, 01:11 AM
On a serious note: Why are there so many killer viruses coming out now? \?
The cute and cuddly ones called off sick.
BallsMalloney
11-01-2009, 01:42 AM
this is serious.
Yeah guys this IS serious..People died. For all you know..The virus could be you..It could be me! It could even be YOUR MOTHER..
Nope, zombies. That's what it is. It's zombies.
Deadly
11-01-2009, 10:46 AM
On a totally random note, in pandemic 2 I started in Madagascar and destroyed the worrrlllld!!! MWHAHAHA!
So evolved H5N1?
Spamshees
11-01-2009, 11:25 AM
Yeah guys this IS serious..People died. For all you know..The virus could be you..It could be me! It could even be YOUR MOTHER..
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee264/Scotland_no_1/Anyoneofus.jpg
Crappy screen I know but I had to do something.
Keptron
11-01-2009, 11:48 AM
This sounds like a job for PANDEMIC 2
http://www.addictinggames.com/pandemic2.html
Holy shit, this game is so awesome, but I can't infect Madagascar as they closed the port, I think I will make the virus less noticeable ( though the entire world is contaminated, lol )
ThoughtThinking
11-01-2009, 02:14 PM
OMFGGGGGG ZOMBIEZZZ HIDEZ!!!!111
Oh Well who knows the infected could be *Dramatic music* Your Mother!!
Zorgy
11-01-2009, 02:20 PM
Holy shit, this game is so awesome, but I can't infect Madagascar as they closed the port, I think I will make the virus less noticeable ( though the entire world is contaminated, lol )
Good luck with that-
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll100/CaptainFailcon/SHUTDOWNEVERYTHING.jpg
hunterhunter
11-01-2009, 04:54 PM
what county is next up for a new virus
Slochk
11-01-2009, 05:12 PM
what county is next up for a new virus
im gonna say.... South Africa!
http://sixminutes.dlugan.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/magic-8-ball.gif
and yup it is.
Waterboy2go
11-01-2009, 05:26 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mnb6JsbsgZM&feature=related
It melted their lungs...WTF
Quote from the article
"This has never been encountered in the history of medicine"
Slochk
11-01-2009, 05:30 PM
oh god.
hunterhunter
11-01-2009, 05:47 PM
jesus christ.....WHAT THE HELL
Waterboy2go
11-01-2009, 05:55 PM
Yea, the media here in the west can hide all the details like that, downplay it as Swine flu, but swine flu does not do that to you.
That is behavior of H5N1 or Pneumatic plague
shadow31310
11-01-2009, 07:29 PM
So does that mean this is a bio-weapon? If so I'm getting my zombie gear ready!
Bloodshed269
11-01-2009, 07:31 PM
Well, fuck. Does this not worry anyone else?
shadow31310
11-01-2009, 07:42 PM
I'm worried over the fact that this is actually solid proof.
Note to self: get ready for zombies
Edit: doesn't the part about peoples lungs mean that radioactivity or chemical reactions could be a cause?
SlainPwner666
11-01-2009, 07:53 PM
This doesn't worry me because I did not get the Swine Flu vaccine, and it doesn't worry me because I've been building my immune system ever since I got a really bad stomach virus back when I was 25. So 9 years worth of natural immune builders makes me almost immune to the flu, and I'm pretty sure the swine flu.
It angers me and disturbs me that the American media is basically ignoring this, but I'm not scared I'm going to catch the virus.
shadow31310
11-01-2009, 07:58 PM
This doesn't worry me because I did not get the Swine Flu vaccine
I already refused it at my school.
Basically everyone at my school is avoiding the vaccine ^_^
Waterboy2go
11-01-2009, 08:02 PM
http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.net/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?noframes;read=230223
Second paragraph....
(No longer conspiracy?)
Slochk
11-01-2009, 08:07 PM
im not sure, if i should believe this or take it as another Y2K.....
shadow31310
11-01-2009, 08:08 PM
Holy shi-, i'm officially tripping out like hell! Guys, arm your shotguns and rifles! stockpile your canned food!
Edit: I'm not joking around nor trolling, I'm dead serious!
Waterboy2go
11-01-2009, 08:10 PM
Holy shi-, i'm officially tripping out like hell! Guys, arm your shotguns and rifles! stockpile your canned food!
While your at it, stick this on your front lawn
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd2/waterboy2go/quarantine3.png
shadow31310
11-01-2009, 08:14 PM
^^^^^
That is win!
OT: Is this real stuff or just another y2k scheme? cause right now that is plausible...
Shadow
11-01-2009, 08:18 PM
http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.net/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?noframes;read=230223
Second paragraph....
(No longer conspiracy?)
Do you honestly expect someone to believe a website with stars as a background? Obviously fake.
shadow31310
11-01-2009, 08:20 PM
Yeah but how do you explain the rest of the stuff posted above?
Waterboy2go
11-01-2009, 08:20 PM
Do you honestly expect someone to believe a website with stars as a background? Obviously fake.
Never said I did, it is just odd, that's all.
shadow31310
11-01-2009, 08:22 PM
Never said I did, it is just odd, that's all.
just to be more clear: Even if that site is a "fake", doesn't mean the info is completely false. Just the fact it was posted at the same time many other places reported similar strips of info is slightly alarming
Waterboy2go
11-01-2009, 08:29 PM
Baxter: Product contained live bird flu virus
http://www.torontosun.com/news/canada/2009/02/27/8560781.html
So, this never saw the light of day in Western media, and could have some relation to the link I posted above.
black671
11-01-2009, 08:32 PM
finally finished reading all i could about this thing, and holy shit...
i have an evacuation plan set out, im just trying to get my stubborn mom and brother to take this cereally.
and after much arguing i have my .22 rifle strapped against the bottom of my bed, along with my nightstick. two more weapons (including a 12 gauge) are in the house, and im ready for shit to go down. Shit just got real. And im ready to kick some ass
shadow31310
11-01-2009, 08:36 PM
Bird flu in milk? (baxter is milk right?)
Wtf is BIRD flu doing in Cow's milk! that is messed up!
Waterboy2go
11-01-2009, 08:37 PM
Bird flu in milk? (baxter is milk right?)
Wtf is BIRD flu doing in Cow's milk! that is messed up!
.................................................. ............................uh.................... ...............
Baxter makes vaccines and medications dude
shadow31310
11-01-2009, 08:39 PM
finally finished reading all i could about this thing, and holy shit...
i have an evacuation plan set out, im just trying to get my stubborn mom and brother to take this cereally.
and after much arguing i have my .22 rifle strapped against the bottom of my bed, along with my nightstick. two more weapons (including a 12 gauge) are in the house, and im ready for shit to go down. Shit just got real. And im ready to kick some ass
Man! my parents are the same!
quotefrom them: I'm certain this is just another Y2K thing, its nothing hunny
I dont care what they think anymore. Whether this is fake or not im not taking any chances
shadow31310
11-01-2009, 08:40 PM
.................................................. ............................uh.................... ...............
Baxter makes vaccines and medications dude
Im from the maritime provinces in Canada, Baxter is a milk company here. 0_0
Shadow
11-01-2009, 08:48 PM
What makes people think weapons would defend them against a biological attack? And by the way, there will always be an ever-evolving ever-omniscient presence of viruses.
In broad view this is actually good for the human population, seeing as we are becoming increasingly overpopulated and dwindling our resources that it is almost necessary for these widespread deadly diseases to limit our current population. Sorry if you don't agree, sometimes you need to take a more objective look on life.
Waterboy2go
11-01-2009, 08:49 PM
What makes people think weapons would defend them against a biological attack? And by the way, there will always be an ever-evolving ever-omniscient presence of viruses.
In broad view this is actually good for the human population, seeing as we are becoming increasingly overpopulated and dwindling our resources that it is almost necessary for these widespread deadly diseases to limit our current population. Sorry if you don't agree, sometimes you need to take a more objective look on life.
'Help the world' while I shoot the people trying to get my food supplies then.
Shadow
11-01-2009, 08:52 PM
^ As "Awesome" as you think this sounds, you aren't living in a movie and that isn't going to happen.
Waterboy2go
11-01-2009, 08:53 PM
^ As "Awesome" as you think this sounds, you aren't living in a movie and that isn't going to happen.
No, I am just saying, if you want to help end overpopulation, set an example for others and go first. While I am outlasting the virus.
Shadow
11-01-2009, 08:58 PM
No, I am just saying, if you want to help end overpopulation, set an example for others and go first. While I am outlasting the virus.
I'm merely suggesting that these diseases are for the best and I am not pointing fingers saying one person deserves to live whereas another deserves death, it's about as equal-opportunity as you can get. Also I was stating that it's awful ludicrous sounding that people believe grabbing their closest weapon will increase their chances of surviving an actual disease.
**Sidenote** : There is not now, nor will there ever be an epic full-scale zombie attack, stop wishing for it and talking about grabbing your guns every time a serious disease pops up.
shadow31310
11-01-2009, 09:06 PM
There is not now, nor will there ever be an epic full-scale zombie attack, stop wishing for it and talking about grabbing your guns every time a serious disease pops up.
As much as you say this will not happen, there is actually a POSSIBILITY that it ends up with a parasitic infection that mimics zombie-like quality's
A bio-weapon is not far off from that threat
also, i do also believe that viruses do help over population but the way I'm seeing this is that its MAN-MADE, not a natural evolving virus
That point right there makes the "Zombie" threat a possibility and its better to be prepared then to be caught off guard
Bloodshed269
11-01-2009, 09:08 PM
I'm merely suggesting that these diseases are for the best and I am not pointing fingers saying one person deserves to live whereas another deserves death, it's about as equal-opportunity as you can get. Also I was stating that it's awful ludicrous sounding that people believe grabbing their closest weapon will increase their chances of surviving an actual disease.
**Sidenote** : There is not now, nor will there ever be an epic full-scale zombie attack, stop wishing for it and talking about grabbing your guns every time a serious disease pops up.
So, you're saying that if you were "infected" with this, and there was a 100% cure, or certain death, you'd pick certain death?
Waterboy2go
11-01-2009, 09:13 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4tICo6lEcw&annotation_id=annotation_920808&feature=iv
More proof that the western media is mis-informed on this situation
and another thing
Something does not make sense with this.
Flu-tracker: http://flutracker.rhizalabs.com/
shows 182,000 H1N1 cases but the neighboring countries have very low numbers:
Belarus: 1
Moldova: 12
Poland: 66
Slovenia: 40
Russia: 1655
Serbia: 21
Hungary: 298
So why is Ukraine such a hot spot? Especially in the western part of the country.
Hon3r
11-01-2009, 09:15 PM
Guns won't save you from infection.
Not getting immunized is retarded. (You probably got vaccinated for measels, mumps, rhubella, small pox, hep. B, polio... but H1N1? Nah, they MUST have screwed this one up.)
I'm not convinced about what's going on in Ukraine. I'll wait until I see something more reputable than "some guy on youtube".
Waterboy2go
11-01-2009, 09:17 PM
Guns won't save you from infection.
Not getting immunized is retarded. (You probably got vaccinated for measels, mumps, rhubella, small pox, hep. B, polio... but H1N1? Nah, they MUST have screwed this one up.)
I'm not convinced about what's going on in Ukraine. I'll wait until I see something more reputable than "some guy on youtube".
Well he did site his sources
Hon3r
11-01-2009, 09:20 PM
True, but nothing was all that consistent and he probably used an on-line translator so things were likely lost in translation.
I'm not denying that they're quarantining things, but I'm not so sure about the new virus that 'melts your lungs'...
Keptron
11-01-2009, 09:31 PM
At all, I got that this seem to be a biological weapon, right? If it's that so, I think it's just a test ATM for who did it to really begin to do his move. I always thought "Why terrorists or countries don't use biological weapons if they can be so lethal and can spread fast?", it seem that it is becoming reality o_ó ( which I don't like )
Elite
11-01-2009, 09:31 PM
Not getting immunized is retarded. (You probably got vaccinated for measels, mumps, rhubella, small pox, hep. B, polio... but H1N1? Nah, they MUST have screwed this one up.)
I'm not getting immunized because the vaccines have been know to give you Guillain Barre Syndrome
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guillain–Barré_syndrome
Basically you turn to a veggie :3
Also the vaccines have traces of mercury and you know what mercury does when it enters your blood stream >.>
There were also never any announcements whether the vaccine actually worked.
Shadow
11-01-2009, 10:03 PM
So, you're saying that if you were "infected" with this, and there was a 100% cure, or certain death, you'd pick certain death?
I don't think you understand what I'm saying in the slightest. If I said diseases were good to reduce population to zero then yes, I would totally pick certain death. But I said they help control population, and I don't really understand where you came up with this "100% cure or certain death" scenario?
Shadow
11-01-2009, 10:05 PM
Also the vaccines have traces of mercury and you know what mercury does when it enters your blood stream >.>
So you I'll assume you've never eaten any fish, seeing as fish contain levels of mercury.
Mercury kills in large doses in the bloodstream, but minute amounts do not kill.
Bloodshed269
11-01-2009, 10:10 PM
I don't think you understand what I'm saying in the slightest. If I said diseases were good to reduce population to zero then yes, I would totally pick certain death. But I said they help control population, and I don't really understand where you came up with this "100% cure or certain death" scenario?
Well, you dying would help with the over population problem. So why not just let yourself die?
Shadow
11-01-2009, 10:20 PM
Well, you dying would help with the over population problem. So why not just let yourself die?
This obviously isn't getting through to that obviously intelligent brain of yours for you so let me explain it to you in biological terms.
In biology, viruses and other such diseases serve us one helpful purpose, being limiting of the ever-expanding population.
Think about it this way, if we as a species were to continue growing at a rate hampered only by ourselves, each other, and various predators (which are almost virtually non-existant for humans) we would die out of resource deprivation within a rate of 4, maybe 5 generations (considering that the human birth rate continues at the rate which is in today's society).
This is why widespread disease in a way, is very good for society. However, nowhere in my ramblings did I ever once suggest suicide or blatant retardation, if you have the means to save yourself from a disease then by all means do so. What I was saying however is that having a gun next to you during a disease will not help, at all.
Now when you're done reading this, be sure to add another ludicrous interpretation of my writings and ask me another retarded question, because that's obviously what you're good for.
Waterboy2go
11-01-2009, 10:30 PM
Ok ok guys, this is getting out of control, can we get back to the topic at hand?
Incase we forgot it is a possible new virus in Ukraine that may melt your lungs
In order to get us back on topic, I will post something that will re-direct conversation to me and my wacky conspiracies
http://davidrothscum.blogspot.com/2009/10/has-baxter-international-released.html
(It's from a blog but he has sources)
Bloodshed269
11-01-2009, 10:36 PM
I never said that having a gun was good for anyone, nor did I meention suicide anywhere. I was just asking you the question, if it came down to it, if you or someone you loved had the "population controlling disease", would your opinion on this subject stay the same?
shadowstreak
11-01-2009, 10:54 PM
I'm going to wait for this to hit a reliable news source, not youtube and a foreign website.
Shadow
11-01-2009, 10:58 PM
I never said that having a gun was good for anyone, nor did I meention suicide anywhere. I was just asking you the question, if it came down to it, if you or someone you loved had the "population controlling disease", would your opinion on this subject stay the same?
If you look back at my first post I said it maybe hard to swallow but there is a reason why with biology you should look at things more objectively. And no, you didn't really ask what you say you did, you twisted my wording to make it seem like I was saying "Listen, even if you can save yourself don't, it's better for the population if you just die." When In reality I was saying something more so along the lines of this "Listen guys there is no need to freakout, viruses are natures way of making sure we don't end up fucking ourselves to death" (pun very much intended).
Elite
11-01-2009, 11:07 PM
Mercury kills in large doses in the bloodstream, but minute amounts do not kill.
Small doses make you retarded because the mercury gets to your brain o_o
I didn't know about the mercury being in fish but then again I hate all kinds of seafood :D
EDIT: I couldn't agree more with your rant about diseases. We are over populated enough lol.
Zhadist
11-02-2009, 01:59 AM
I'm not getting immunized because the vaccines have been know to give you Guillain Barre Syndrome
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guillain–Barré_syndrome
Basically you turn to a veggie :3
Also the vaccines have traces of mercury and you know what mercury does when it enters your blood stream >.>
There were also never any announcements whether the vaccine actually worked.
I'll get back to you on whether the vaccine worked because I know a few friends who were forced to have it injected into their system by their parents. Worst part is, one of them was perfectly healthy, but after taking the vaccination, she got sick and I haven't heard whether she's feeling well or not.
Shadow
11-02-2009, 06:14 AM
I didn't know about the mercury being in fish but then again I hate all kinds of seafood :D
Yes, fish contains amounts of mercury, which is why when women are pregnant it is advised that they eat very little amounts of fish, too much may lead to mercury poisoning (I believe that is the term) in unborn children.
Waterboy2go
11-02-2009, 04:38 PM
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aho.pJfVAysE&pos=9#
Ukraine Mystery Outbreak Sparks WHO Concern as Disease Spreads
There is a MSM non foreign media now reporting it
Go here for updates and whatnot (Click on situation updates)
http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/woalert_read.php?glide=EH-20091028-23630-UKR&cat=dis&lang=eng
Icy Lemon
11-02-2009, 05:01 PM
Can't believe I'm not seeing this in the news yet. At least 67 dead and 255,000 people infected? Damn.
hunterhunter
11-02-2009, 05:14 PM
yea...me too,what the hell is going on in ukraine right now
Elite
11-02-2009, 07:00 PM
Saw this on the news now. They didn't say anything new though.
shadow31310
11-02-2009, 07:32 PM
Does that mean the info we already know or random coverup crap?
Deadly
11-02-2009, 07:37 PM
Quick, everyone, get to Madagascar before they shut down their port! Sounds like it's just another disease atm. This is exactly how the swine flu scare started, but it's good to keep an open mind. After all, we don't REALLY need Ukraine, do we?
shadow31310
11-02-2009, 07:41 PM
Quick, everyone, get to Madagascar before they shut down their port! Sounds like it's just another disease atm. This is exactly how the swine flu scare started, but it's good to keep an open mind. After all, we don't REALLY need Ukraine, do we?
Agreed 100% :P
Although right now it does seem like a Bio-weapon :\
Hon3r
11-02-2009, 08:11 PM
Now that you see what our weapon is capable of I have a few demands.
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d95/TKush/bond/untitled.jpg
That's right, ALL the kitty food.
...Couldn't resist...
This isn't bioterrorism or I'll eat my hat!
There's less mercury in the vaccine than a tuna sandwich. You think the doctors would have considered the consequences BEFORE putting mercury in the vaccine.
Oh, and I just got the swine flu shot and can still move and such.
Waterboy2go
11-02-2009, 08:13 PM
Yea...just not a fan of getting something shot into my immune system that was tested for 2 months or so
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H1N1 Swine Flu Or Something Far Worse? The Debate Over What The Heck Is Going On In Ukraine Rages On
http://thebirdflupandemic.com/archives/h1n1-swine-flu-or-something-far-worse-the-debate-over-what-the-heck-is-going-on-in-ukraine-rages-on
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Swine Flu? Typhus? Ebola Hemorrhagic Fever? Pneumonic Plague? Panic Explodes As A Mystery Illness Rips Through Ukraine
http://thebirdflupandemic.com/archives/swine-flu-typhus-ebola-hemorrhagic-fever-pneumonic-plague-panic-explodes-as-a-mystery-illness-rips-through-ukraine
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Yushchenko called on to help Ukraine: Unknown virus is killing people
http://www.kavkaz.org.uk/eng/content/2009/11/01/11153.shtml
This is an important one, doctors are agreeing this is a new serious virus. death toll underestimate, and makeshift hospitals being set up according to the report
Elite
11-03-2009, 12:33 AM
Yay, a virus that is much much worse than Swine Flu.
Fuck the flu shot! Get the Ukrainian virus vaccine!
Waterboy2go
11-03-2009, 07:15 AM
Romania places all hospitals under quarantine
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-11/03/content_12375162.htm
(Romania borders Western Ukraine)
EDIT: Did anyone here about those 40 students that caught "swine flu" a few days ago and all needed hospitalization?
Connect the dots guys.
(article)
http://www.ptinews.com/news/357940_Romania-hotel-closed-after-40-people-get-swine-flu
Virus may of escaped quarantine!
Zorgy
11-03-2009, 12:04 PM
I'm still yet to see a thing in the british media, I'm getting a little bit worried about this and I wish the western world would pick up on it faster.
black671
11-03-2009, 03:06 PM
**Sidenote** : There is not now, nor will there ever be an epic full-scale zombie attack, stop wishing for it and talking about grabbing your guns every time a serious disease pops up.
not to sound like a troll, but proof or its possible, bro
Waterboy2go
11-03-2009, 03:25 PM
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-11/03/content_12374039.htm
Borders being closed now!
This is not swine flu! They don't do this for SNIFFLES AND COUGHS!
Slochk
11-03-2009, 04:30 PM
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-11/03/content_12374039.htm
Borders being closed now!
This is not swine flu! They don't do this for SNIFFLES AND COUGHS!
aw man now what am i gonna do with these plane tickets to the Slovakia?
Waterboy2go
11-03-2009, 07:53 PM
Possibly more points to a similar Spanish Flu mutation as WHO targets Hemorrhagic "H1N1" Cases
http://www.recombinomics.com/News/11030902/Ukraine_Hemor.html
Although there is still no confirmation that this is all being caused by H1n1, aside from a few death confirmations
Hon3r
11-03-2009, 08:08 PM
Like I said:
Laboratory testing in Ukraine has confirmed pandemic H1N1 influenza virus in samples taken from patients in two of the most affected regions. As the pandemic virus has rapidly become the dominant influenza strain worldwide, it can be assumed that most cases of influenza in Ukraine are caused by the H1N1 virus.
Many questions remain to be answered. The outbreak in Ukraine may be indicative of how [H1N1] can behave in the northern hemisphere during the winter season, particularly in health care settings typically found in Eastern Europe.
http://www.who.int/csr/don/2009_11_03/en/
NO bioterrorism. Just a bad case of the swine.
Waterboy2go
11-03-2009, 08:21 PM
Ukraine: Influenza or Pneumonic Plague? The situation is getting worse and worse
http://kavkazcenter.com/eng/content/2009/11/02/11155.shtml
Ukrainian News Agency "Fraza" reported that, according to informed sources, "it has been confirmed 100 % Pneumonic Plague in Ukraine".
The Agency asserts that "the head physician of the medical institutions has sent out an informal disposal - not to sow panic, to refute the information about the plague, and to speak only of swine influenza".
Some 15,000 hospitalized? IF that is accurate the death toll will rise dramatically soon
Jesus123
11-03-2009, 08:30 PM
Jeez, I'd hate to see this spread all over Earth.
Shadow
11-03-2009, 09:06 PM
not to sound like a troll, but proof or its possible, bro
It's possible that the flu will turn into a zombie plague? Oh definitely.
black671
11-03-2009, 09:20 PM
It's possible that the flu will turn into a zombie plague? Oh definitely.
thats what ive been tryin to tell you bro. jeez. ;)
Waterboy2go
11-04-2009, 02:38 PM
Bump for a new day of news
Slochk
11-04-2009, 02:44 PM
Bump for a new day of news
longest thread of news EVAR!
Waterboy2go
11-04-2009, 03:01 PM
Keeping an eye on Afghanistan now
http://www.rferl.org/content/Swine_Flu_Fears_Spread_From_Ukraine_to_Afghanistan/1869479.html
Hon3r
11-04-2009, 03:02 PM
Bump for a new day of speculation
Fix'd! :)
Waterboy2go
11-04-2009, 03:04 PM
Fix'd! :)
Calling me out boy?
ಠ_ಠ
Edit:
http://www.kavkazcenter.com/eng/content/2009/11/01/11153.shtml
Going back to this link, it was updated today with this
"I have met with friends from the western Ukraine, the doctors say that the lungs of the dead were black. And that, perhaps this is not influenza but pneumonic plague. Well, if this is indeed a plague, then the news won't mention it for now, and certainly - it's 100% death"
Now while that is unconfirmed it is still very worrisome, i just wish we could get some certain info on it
Bloodshed269
11-04-2009, 04:48 PM
Calling me out boy?
ಠ_ಠ
Hey, go easy on him. He's from Canada, he's endured enough.
Slochk
11-04-2009, 04:56 PM
Hey, go easy on him. He's from Canada, he's endured enough.
that just made my day.
Come on guys just be nice to him, he's putting a lot of effort in it.
though I'm not 100% convinced its true as a total media blackout will be extremely rare. My starting page gives me a live update on CNN news and i couldn't find it anywhere.
Bloodshed269
11-04-2009, 05:04 PM
Come on guys just be nice to him, he's putting a lot of effort in it.
though I'm not 100% convinced its true as a total media blackout will be extremely rare. My starting page gives me a live update on CNN news and i couldn't find it anywhere.
It's the media, man. They're like witholding information. Don't listen, man.
Waterboy2go
11-04-2009, 05:07 PM
The media loves hype, they need things to hype up. but that is why it is so troubling, they are not hyping this up, not even mentioning it. complete opposite of the swine Flu scare
Elite
11-04-2009, 06:09 PM
Yeah swine flu is balls compared to this.
New Black Plague maybe?
Hon3r
11-04-2009, 08:04 PM
Gah! First people say the government and media are out to scare people by hyping up H1N1, now people are saying that they're trying to keep things hush hush!
Make up your minds, conspirators!
Frankly I'll trust the WHO's diagnosis (http://www.left4dead411.com/forums/showpost.php?p=340440&postcount=95)over random independent news sources.
(Oh, and Canada is awesome. Pot might as well be legalized, we have working education and healthcare, and we're not hated by every other country ;))
Elite
11-04-2009, 08:08 PM
Conspiracy theories are created when something's missing or there are loopholes. The conspiracies themselves don't have to be true, but what it does mean is that there is something they aren't telling us.
Why do you think there are conspiracy theories about aliens? Because they landed on Earth? No, because the military refuses to comment on it.
Waterboy2go
11-04-2009, 08:08 PM
Ukraine recently participated in international bio-terrorism exercise involving -- get this -- Black Death plague attack scenario
http://continuitycentral.com/news04848.html
Bloodshed269
11-04-2009, 08:11 PM
(Oh, and Canada is awesome. Pot might as well be legalized, we have working education and healthcare, and we're not hated by every other country ;))
Yeah, but you have french in you. That is an auto-disqulification.
Elite
11-04-2009, 08:11 PM
So I was rite? :3
Bloodshed269
11-04-2009, 08:16 PM
really? REALLY?!?! THE FUCKING PLAGUE?
Elite
11-04-2009, 08:20 PM
really? REALLY?!?! THE FUCKING PLAGUE?
Yeah the plague that killed 1/4 of Europe :p
Waterboy2go
11-04-2009, 08:22 PM
guys the BUBONIC PLAGUE these days is 100% treatable, although what we might be dealing with is PNEUMATIC PLAGUE, which must be treated within 24 hours in order to have a decent chance of surviving (no treatment = near 100% death rate)
Flashback
Deja vu, exercises help right before the swine flu outbreak
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/2009/04/24/testing-our-readiness-for-a-global-flu-pandemic-91466-23463061/
Hon3r
11-04-2009, 08:28 PM
Yeah, but you have french in you. That is an auto-disqulification.
MON DIEU!!!
...Actually most of Canada drops french after grade 9 and completely forgets about it.
If this actually does turn out to be something other than just swine flu, I'll eat my hat.
NO! I'll eat lawlhat (sorry buddy).
shadowstreak
11-04-2009, 08:36 PM
Fix'd! :)
I have to agree with Hon3r, most of your stories you post have made no impact in any of our lives, though I believe the swine flu one and the start of the recession, though the rest have not grown or anything, also a few of your websites I am linked to cause my browser to freak out (Web of Trust+AVG) and tell me to leave the page. Though if this is true, I hope they border up the place so it cannot spread. I'll keep my eye for it, and if you really want the media to see this, send an e-mail to fox news and CNN, if CNN picks it up it will cause all news networks to follow, and why do I say fox? Because they put up just about anything, and if a good amount of the population sees it and they ask questions, then the other news networks will follow up the story to see if it's true due to the demand of the population.
Elite
11-04-2009, 08:40 PM
MON DIEU!!!
...Actually most of Canada drops french after grade 9 and completely forgets about it.
Orly? Then why am I still doing a French course?
:(
SickDaza
11-04-2009, 08:50 PM
I'll eat my hat.
NO! I'll eat lawlhat (sorry buddy).
I fucking lol'd dude.
But seriously, I'm not going to start worrying about this because like all other mystery virus's they're built up and up by the media trying to scare people or they're covered up like nothing is wrong, which is essentially a scare tactic because people here snippets of some unknown virus that is killing people in a couple of days and they panic.
I doubt this is going to get any further than SARS, bird flu or swine flu did, initial worry and panic, followed but realisation that everyone is actually over-reacting.
Orly? Then why am I still doing a French course?
:(
Because you chose it =/ I hated foreign languages course, I was terrible at them, dropped it the first chance I could.
Elite
11-04-2009, 08:59 PM
Meh, A virus that kills people in 4-5 days is pretty deadly in my book.
Waterboy2go
11-05-2009, 07:14 AM
35 dead in India, had flu symptoms, tested NEGATIVE for Swine
http://www.mid-day.com/news/2009/nov/051109-Sassoon-hospital-Swine-Flu-Casualities-Pune.htm
This was over the course of 45 days, but relevant nonetheless
SickDaza
11-05-2009, 08:09 AM
Meh, A virus that kills people in 4-5 days is pretty deadly in my book.
Any chance these people were elderly, young, sick or immunodeficient?
Waterboy2go
11-05-2009, 03:22 PM
Swine Flu Outbreak Sparks Mutation Fears
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Swine-Flu-World-Health-Organisation-Monitoring-Epidemic-In-Ukraine-Amid-Fears-Virus-Has-Mutated/Article/200911115439464?lpos=World_News_Second_Home_Page_A rticle_Teaser_Region_0&lid=ARTICLE_15439464_Swine_Flu%3A_World_Health_Org anisation_Monitoring_Epidemic_In_Ukraine_Amid_Fear s_Virus_Has_Mutated
Hon3r
11-05-2009, 06:07 PM
Keep in mind that the REGULAR flu kills more people than it's predicted the swine will... just like any other year.
Grieverlionhart
11-05-2009, 06:23 PM
All of us should arm and meet up somewhere, itl be like left 4 dead only left 1000 dead, problem is how many of us can sit in corners punching for an eternity?
Bloodshed269
11-05-2009, 06:29 PM
All of us should arm and meet up somewhere, itl be like left 4 dead only left 1000 dead, problem is how many of us can sit in corners punching for an eternity?
Yeah, because the plague does that to people.
Hon3r
11-05-2009, 06:48 PM
Yeah, because the flu does that to people.
Fix'd :D
Bloodshed269
11-05-2009, 06:51 PM
Fixed :D
Fixed. :)
Elite
11-05-2009, 07:04 PM
Keep in mind that the REGULAR flu kills more people than it's predicted the swine will... just like any other year.
Regular Flu doesn't kill in 4-5 days. Or else we would all be dead by now lol.
SickDaza
11-05-2009, 07:08 PM
Regular Flu doesn't kill in 4-5 days. Or else we would all be dead by now lol.
Again what kind of state were these people in?
donutraider22
11-05-2009, 07:10 PM
Hehehehehehehehehehehehe............ all these years of studying zombie survival wil pay off......(twitch)
Jesus123
11-05-2009, 07:31 PM
I'm gonna laugh when WaterBoy owns the non-believers. "The world will look up and shout ’save us!’ And I’ll whisper ‘no.’" with a reply from WaterBoy as he prepared those who believed him.
Waterboy2go
11-05-2009, 08:38 PM
I'm gonna laugh when WaterBoy owns the non-believers. "The world will look up and shout ’save us!’ And I’ll whisper ‘no.’" with a reply from WaterBoy as he prepared those who believed him.
I wonder if they will make out my words from my flu mask
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01393/Skull-flu-mask_1393634i.jpg
In related news, here are the newest numbers on our mystery friend
http://recombinomics.com/news/11040902/ukraine_double.html
Elite
11-05-2009, 08:47 PM
HOLY SHIT!
Half a million infected just in the Ukraine?!
Waterboy2go
11-06-2009, 04:45 PM
Well with all the news of the shootings in the last 2 days I can not find anything new about our little bug here
Will keep you guys posted
Elite
11-06-2009, 05:08 PM
Yeah the shootings were pretty bad :(
Slochk
11-06-2009, 05:17 PM
Yeah the shootings were pretty bad :(
well, a lot more that 12 people die every day in the war, BUT this is on US ground, so it makes BIG news.
Elite
11-06-2009, 05:19 PM
Yeah LOL BIAS.
:p
Slochk
11-06-2009, 05:21 PM
Yeah LOL BIAS.
:p
its sad but it hapens
Infest0125
11-06-2009, 05:32 PM
First....
GET SHOTGUNS!!!
/zombie joke.
Seriously, this is pretty serious. I've been through SARs though, but this shit is still pretty freaky. But I have a feeling its just being built up a little too much to be honest. They've gotta be leaving some details out.
Remember how hyped up people are about swine flu? Remember how much damage it does?
When you're 110 percent, that's when you start overreacting.
I still want to get a shotgun though...
Waterboy2go
11-07-2009, 12:07 PM
Martial Law Declared In Ukraine Over Mystery Epidemic
http://www.prisonplanet.com/martial-law-declared-in-ukraine-over-mystery-epidemic.html
Not sure how reliable this is but the sources are all cited
Latest Numbers
http://www.recombinomics.com/News/11060901/Ukraine_4X.html
Police Prepare Plague Drill at Elementary School
http://current.com/items/91390766_police-prepare-plague-drill-at-elementary-school.htm
Nice timing
Hon3r
11-07-2009, 12:30 PM
lol can't take a website seriously if it advertises the DVD version of "The Fall of the Republic". Yeeaaaahhh, suuurrre... Obama's trying to create a New World Order...
Wait, no. He just wants public healthcare. Like every other (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_health_care) industrialized nation in the world.
Aaanyways, I digress.
It seems like most articles are just calling this H1N1 nowadays.
Waterboy2go
11-07-2009, 02:28 PM
lol can't take a website seriously if it advertises the DVD version of "The Fall of the Republic". Yeeaaaahhh, suuurrre... Obama's trying to create a New World Order...
Wait, no. He just wants public healthcare. Like every other (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_health_care) industrialized nation in the world.
Aaanyways, I digress.
It seems like most articles are just calling this H1N1 nowadays.
Don't bash me, that's why I said that I had no idea how reliable the source was, but he had other links to most of his claims, which was all I was looking for.
Elite
11-07-2009, 03:57 PM
So the numbers almost doubled?
Shit, get your shotguns ready :p
Hon3r
11-07-2009, 04:17 PM
Don't bash me, that's why I said that I had no idea how reliable the source was, but he had other links to most of his claims, which was all I was looking for.
Sorry man, I wasn't bashing you. I was bashing the website. I just get heated whenever I see any of the stupid "9/11" or "New World Order" conspiracies.
I will admit that it seems like weird things are going on in the Ukraine, but I think it's just H1N1 to the nth degree...
Elite
11-07-2009, 06:23 PM
Sorry man, I wasn't bashing you. I was bashing the website. I just get heated whenever I see any of the stupid "9/11" or "New World Order" conspiracies.
I hate those conspiracies too :D
They're just so stupid.
Waterboy2go
11-07-2009, 07:58 PM
All borders with Slovakia and Ukraine sealed
http://www.nu.nl/buitenland/2118199/slowakije-sluit-grens-met-oekraine-griep.html
Translation:
BRATISLAVA - Slovakia closes all but one borders to Ukraine because of the flu outbreak. In Ukraine now more than 900.000 people are infected, 135 died so far.
At the only open border at Vysne Nemecke, doctors are stationed to check EVERY PERSON on flu symptoms. Who ever has flu symptoms is not allowed in the country.
the border between the Ukraine and Slovakia is the East border of the EU. When a person enters this border, free travel within the EU is possible without checkpoints.
The Latest Official Numbers were just Released!
936,804 Now Sick
144 Dead (considering the numbers aren't being suppressed)
43,762 Hospitalized
Elite
11-07-2009, 08:08 PM
This is serious business.
Waterboy2go
11-07-2009, 10:43 PM
Possibly related news:
H1N1 Sparks Urgent Medical Mission in Alaskan Village
("H1N1" infecting people AFTER vaccinations)
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,572908,00.html?test=latestnews
"We thought it would be better to go out there and just vaccinate people."
Hon3r
11-07-2009, 11:00 PM
lol I prefer the random conspiracy news sites to FOX news :P
Keep in mind the vaccine isn't fool proof.. and there are other viruses out there..
Waterboy2go
11-07-2009, 11:04 PM
lol I prefer the random conspiracy news sites to FOX news :P
Keep in mind the vaccine isn't fool proof.. and there are other viruses out there..
That's a lot of bad vaccine, and they are suspecting H1N1, like they are in Ukraine
And keep in mind the village is pretty much sealed off from the outside world unless you wanna go through hell to get there
Hon3r
11-07-2009, 11:05 PM
They say there's only one confirmed case... and the people who brought the vaccine probably brought the virus too! Ohh the ironing is delicious :D
...you might've noticed that I like to play devil's advocate :P
Waterboy2go
11-07-2009, 11:07 PM
They say there's only one confirmed case... and the people who brought the vaccine probably brought the virus too! Ohh the ironing is delicious :D
...you might've noticed that I like to play devil's advocate :P
I don't know, it seems a little suspicious to happen in the middle of nowhere, but then again, I have no idea whats going on up there, so you are right, it is all speculation at this point
Also, wtf are we ironing?
Hon3r
11-07-2009, 11:09 PM
Play on words with "irony". It's a Simpsons quote (Homer, I think).
And yeah, that just shows what a super-virus H1N1 is...
EDIT: Actually, it was Bart:
[Lisa has been forced to write on the chalkboard, punishment for doing math in class]
Bart Simpson: [laughs] Lisa in trouble. The ironing is delicious.
Lisa Simpson: The word is irony.
Bart Simpson: Huh?
Lisa Simpson: Don't you think there's something weird going on here? We spent all day selecting fabric swatches and then our guest speaker was Phil, from marketing.
Bart Simpson: All's I know is I'm getting straights A's, and that ain't not bad.
Elite
11-08-2009, 12:27 AM
Just as I thought, the vaccine must be ineffective, otherwise we'd see a shit load of doctors talking about how effective it is. Instead we see a bunch of clueless reporters trying to brainwash us to take the shot.
Figures.
Hon3r
11-08-2009, 10:32 AM
It's not 100% ineffective. It's just not... SUPER EFFECTIVE!
example, researchers developed an HIV vaccine... but there were only 30% fewer cases in the group that was given the vaccine. Statistically significant, even though you may not think it worth getting.
And doctors do want people to get the shot, the problem is that they're not... you know, reporters. They're doctors. I've found several articles in Canadian papers that were interviews of doctors telling us to get the shot.
You all just ign'nt!
http://tvmedia.ign.com/tv/image/article/848/848950/south-park-20080131034948483.jpg
Waterboy2go
11-08-2009, 11:10 AM
It's not 100% ineffective. It's just not... SUPER EFFECTIVE!
example, researchers developed an HIV vaccine... but there were only 30% fewer cases in the group that was given the vaccine. Statistically significant, even though you may not think it worth getting.
And doctors do want people to get the shot, the problem is that they're not... you know, reporters. They're doctors. I've found several articles in Canadian papers that were interviews of doctors telling us to get the shot.
You all just ign'nt!
http://tvmedia.ign.com/tv/image/article/848/848950/south-park-20080131034948483.jpg
You bess be trolling son.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XI-wIeq6rc0
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20091106/poland_flu_091106/20091106?hub=World
http://www.theflucase.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1620:less-than-01-of-french-population-has-taken-qswine-fluq-jab-so-far-admits-french-health-minister&catid=1:latest-news&Itemid=64&lang=en
http://article.wn.com/view/2009/10/14/Many_Dallas_County_doctors_wont_get_swine_flu_vacc ine/
http://www.fox8live.com/news/local/story/Doctors-warn-Swine-Flu-vaccine-may-do-more-harm/-oL3_Ion8E6IkctZ1md8wA.cspx
(Just a few I dug up out of a Google search)
There is a pretty heated argument about the vaccine
I won't be taking it because it was tested for A MONTH and they expect it to be alright
And if i catch it it is just a common flu.
Shadow
11-08-2009, 11:47 AM
You bess be trolling son.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XI-wIeq6rc0
I didn't watch any of the other videos yet but did you even watch this video before you posted it? The title says "Makers of The Swine Flu Refuse to Take it" whereas in the video it clearly cites that "Makes of the SMALLPOX vacine refuse to take the Swine flu vaccine and urge their families also to not take it.
Ignorance is bliss rite?
Waterboy2go
11-08-2009, 12:36 PM
I didn't watch any of the other videos yet but did you even watch this video before you posted it? The title says "Makers of The Swine Flu Refuse to Take it" whereas in the video it clearly cites that "Makes of the SMALLPOX vacine refuse to take the Swine flu vaccine and urge their families also to not take it.
Ignorance is bliss rite?
Yea the title is wrong, that is clear from watching it. But I don't see why you are calling me ignorant, the makers of the [Smallpox] vaccine are calling on people not to take the [Swine Flu] shot, which raises concerns for me considering they know a thing or two about vaccines.
Hon3r
11-08-2009, 01:06 PM
They come out with new flu shots every year based on predictions on which strain will be the big seasonal one... Those ones can't be tested much more than the H1N1 vaccine, so why the big hullabaloo?
Shadow
11-08-2009, 02:52 PM
Yea the title is wrong, that is clear from watching it. But I don't see why you are calling me ignorant, the makers of the [Smallpox] vaccine are calling on people not to take the [Swine Flu] shot, which raises concerns for me considering they know a thing or two about vaccines.
I'm calling you ignorant because you are posting up videos that are slightly biased (referring to children as guinea pigs? Really? I can think of several words better than guinea pigs) and just made to stir propaganda.
Waterboy2go
11-08-2009, 03:10 PM
I'm calling you ignorant because you are posting up videos that are slightly biased (referring to children as guinea pigs? Really? I can think of several words better than guinea pigs) and just made to stir propaganda.
Well I am not here to press on an argument
Guess we are having a misunderstanding so I'm just gonna say that we all get back on topic
one of them
11-08-2009, 03:12 PM
Many smart people that I admire have told people to avoid the Swine Flu Vaccine.
It has some crazy stuff in it, like Mercury.
Hon3r
11-08-2009, 07:21 PM
It has some crazy stuff in it, like Mercury.
AUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!
That is the single most ignorant argument anti-vaccination people make.
There is more mercury in a tuna fish sandwich than in a single dose of vaccine. (http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/fn-an/securit/chem-chim/environ/mercur/merc_fish_qa-poisson_qr-eng.php#hr3)
Elite
11-08-2009, 07:37 PM
Your point? Any amount of mercury is bad for your body.
No matter how small, as small deposits build over time until you have this significant amount of mercury in your blood stream making you brain damaged.
:p
On topic, I knew it.
FINALLY MY ONE AND ONLY CONSPIRACY COMES TRUE!
Who would you rather take advice from; the man in power, the people that wanna sell newspapers or intelligent individuals that will not profit in anyway by giving you advice?
Hon3r
11-08-2009, 09:16 PM
I guess you're never eating fish again then?
Oh, and
Mercury from vaccines disappears quickly (http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20080131/mercury_vaccines_080131?s_name=&no_ads=)
Waterboy2go
11-08-2009, 09:19 PM
I guess you're never eating fish again then?
Oh, and
Mercury from vaccines disappears quickly (http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20080131/mercury_vaccines_080131?s_name=&no_ads=)
That says it dissipates from the Blood stream, and says it may build up elsewhere in the body (bones possibly)
"[...]Although it's unclear from the study whether some mercury may linger elsewhere in the body."
Elite
11-08-2009, 09:22 PM
Vaccines still have mercury in them.
Also
although it's unclear from the study whether some mercury may linger elsewhere in the body.
Like I said, Mercury will accumulate over time.
EDIT
I guess you're never eating fish again then?
I told you I don't like fish or any kind of seafood :D
Waterboy2go
11-09-2009, 07:32 PM
Total Destruction of Lungs in Ukraine Fatal H1N1 Cases
http://www.recombinomics.com/News/11090903/Ukraine_Lungs.html
Just throwing this out there
The symptoms reported (destruction of lungs) and the deaths (100 some) does not add up.
Hon3r
11-09-2009, 07:53 PM
There, mystery solved. It was pneumonia caused by H1N1, what I've been saying all along :P
No mystery virus or bioterrorism, just a virus with an attitude.
And I give up about the vaccine! I hope you get H1N1 and spread it to all whom you love. Meanwhile I'll be up in Canada laughing at you as I lick all the doorknobs I can find!
MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3290/2658575099_da5c92a7f1.jpg
Oh yes.
Elite
11-09-2009, 08:04 PM
Licking doorknobs will give you aids.
grabbin_peelz
11-09-2009, 08:08 PM
So will using public bathrooms
/growup
Waterboy2go
11-09-2009, 08:12 PM
And I give up about the vaccine! I hope you get H1N1 and spread it to all whom you love.
Just being cautious, and hey if i do get it...natural immunity ftw
Elite
11-09-2009, 08:55 PM
Just being cautious, and hey if i do get it...natural immunity ftw
Only the weak and unworthy die from disease.
Waterboy2go
11-09-2009, 09:08 PM
I prefer the term "Natural Selection"
Anyways....
Timeline on WHO Silence on Ukraine H1N1 Sequences
http://www.recombinomics.com/News/11090908/Ukraine_WHO_Timeline.html
Hon3r
11-10-2009, 12:25 PM
This guy makes some good points.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_EqEGc0S60&feature=topvideos
Waterboy2go
11-13-2009, 11:28 PM
Update
Doctors learned why Ukrainians are dying!
http://mignews.com.ua/en/categ408/articles/378759.html
Also, does anyone have a link to the video where the polish minister of health says they wont bother with the H1N1 vaccine because they are more concerned with an avian flu outbreak in jan-march of next year?
Update etc
WHO to report on Ukraine next week
http://www.tymoshenko.ua/en/article/v3zevo63
MILLION HIT BY 'PLAGUE WORSE THAN SWINE FLU'
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/140492/Million-hit-by-plague-worse-than-swine-flu-
slay3r
11-15-2009, 06:44 AM
its not the virus. its allways the cures
cure = sideaffects = ZZZZOMMMBIEES!
Slochk
11-15-2009, 10:08 AM
its not the virus. its allways the cures
cure = sideaffects = ZZZZOMMMBIEES!
this is where my mind goes ALL THE TIME!
Waterboy2go
11-18-2009, 10:07 PM
Mutation confirmed by WHO:
http://www.recombinomics.com/News/11180902/Ukraine_D225G_Confirmed.html
Mainstream news now reporting on the charcoal black lungs, destroying them through cytokine storm (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cytokine_storm)
So it turns out the early reports about the black lungs were confirmed, the immune system is now ripping your lungs apart when you come in contact with this virus.
Still, the reports of this and the deaths seems a little too low...
I don't believe the million infected number. 3 different viruses. What are they testing for and how many are they testing? Seems to me they are trying to water down the data a bit. No way do I believe the Ukraine, with a pop of 50 million, has been able to test 1 million people.
I also wonder how many death certificates say cause of death was 'cardiac arrest' or 'heart failure' and such.
Easton Dark
11-18-2009, 10:14 PM
Traitorous immune system, sounds like biological warfare.....
Elite
11-18-2009, 10:59 PM
Traitorous immune system, sounds like biological warfare.....
Or A Trial Run Of Biological Warfare To See If It Would Work.
Biological Warfare 3 Coming Soon To You!
Blade
11-18-2009, 11:29 PM
I told you I don't like fish or any kind of seafood :D
I know an all you can eat place in BC that has shrimp that would change your mind. Their mussels are amazing too. Mind blowingly good stuff mate.
OT: What do you think would happen if a Ukrainian tried to fly to America? Random thought...
Easton Dark
11-18-2009, 11:39 PM
OT: What do you think would happen if a Ukrainian tried to fly to America? Random thought...
- If they found out on the plane
Detaining, no go for them on the flight -
- If they found out once the plane landed
Scrub down of passengers, burn the plane, etc -
- If they found out after the passenger got off the plane
Mass hysteria, miracle cures, gas masks now required outside, ala the swine flu scare but worse -
N0sySh00ter
11-19-2009, 05:20 PM
It's the Black Lung Virus. I read about it on Yahoo!.
Jesus123
11-19-2009, 05:22 PM
I'm gonna laugh when WaterBoy owns the non-believers. "The world will look up and shout ’save us!’ And I’ll whisper ‘no.’" with a reply from WaterBoy as he prepared those who believed him.
Turns out, that Waterboy was right. HE WAS!
Waterboy2go
11-19-2009, 06:32 PM
Turns out, that Waterboy was right. HE WAS!
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd2/waterboy2go/damned.gif
New mutation - Tamiflu resistant link:
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hjdCHrP82YTFser5vD6CzTK1az6wD9C3FURG1
Waterboy2go
11-22-2009, 03:54 PM
Final Update (unless something big happens)
It looks like it made it's way to the US, more hemorrhagic deaths reported in Iowa
http://www.kcci.com/news/21670309/detail.html
So we now know this:
1. The new mutation allows the H1N1 virus to go deeper into the lungs at the start
2. It now resembles the 1918 strain closer due to lung hemorrhaging
3. Now turns your immune system against you via cytokine storm (explains charred lungs)
4. The new strain IS NO LONGER EFFECTED BY THE VACCINE
EDIT: I'd also like to point out this thing has developed resistance to Tamiflu, and most other anti virals used to treat it, so keep an eye out guys
Elite
11-22-2009, 05:55 PM
Its worse than the swine and its here. Great.
Are they gonna close the schools down this time or get everyone infected like they are now?
Waterboy2go
11-27-2009, 01:25 PM
Final Update (unless something big happens)
I think this constitutes it:
If I read this article right, the vaccine is useless against this new strain
http://www.recombinomics.com/News/11270902/D225G_Evade.html
HERE IS ALL THE REASON NOT TO GET YOUR VACCINE:
A person that is vaccinated antibodies are predisposed to combating the wild portion and ignoring the deadly D225G making vaccines not only redundant but increasing viral vulnerability.
So what this vaccine is doing is paving the way for its big brother to kick our asses
The silence is deafening as to how serious this is. Complete obfuscation by the WHO. This mutation has been given "low reactor" status by its affiliates. Meaning the this deadly mutation is resistant to the vaccine. Another implication of this is that those that have been immunized will wipe out the wild type H1N1 and becoming breeding sites for this deadly mutation D225G.
Fantastic, your friends that have ignored your warnings of about the vaccine will now become weaponized.
This is no JOKE.
WHO has now confirmed it, but they wont announce it publicly
http://www.recombinomics.com/News/11280901/WHO_D225G_Vac.html
Keptron
11-28-2009, 06:04 AM
So, it's better to not get vaccine by any chances?
Zorgy
11-28-2009, 08:12 AM
Bloody hell. I'm moving to Finland. I'll be safe there.
Paradox Viper
12-06-2009, 07:45 PM
Friends mum had H1N1 last week. Got over it within a few days. Just seems like a bit of nasty flu to be honest, despite all the mutations and panic.
Humans have gotten past far larger obstacles than this silly infection. I'd be more worried about cancer and AIDs than this, if I were you.
Or time-traveling robot dinosaurs, for that matter. RESISTANCE IS FUTILE
Elite
12-06-2009, 09:09 PM
Yeah, H1N1 is just a really bad flu. Everything else is media hype :p
Sigurd
12-11-2009, 10:14 PM
I'd rather believe Paradox than all you loonies making these crazy stories...
Toasters raped me.
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