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The One
12-07-2007, 03:55 PM
Guys I know I've been asking alot of help for this kind of stuff, but its a project for my science class. And its worth alot. So any help you give me I HIGHLY appreciate it.

Well i took the subject on the EMP (Electromagnetic Pulse, somethin like that)
and so the teacher told me to try and control the energy into a beam.
So in other words, make an EMP Gun.
If I manage to do this, She'll give me ALOT of points.

The Catch is, she cant help me on anything. I tried googling it but I couldnt get any instructions on making it. All I got was this H.E.R.F gun thing that is pretty much the same. And all I got from it was, Magnetron (From any microwave I guess), Wave guide, and more but they wont say.

And I really dont know how to make an EMP gun or how to put the parts together to do it.
And I know that there are a lot of smart ass people in this forum, so this is the place I had to come to for help.

Any help will be HIGHLY appreciated.

Kenny
12-07-2007, 04:02 PM
Uh.. The One, the last time I saw something that could generate an EMP.. it was larger than a car. I'm sorry I can't really help you with anything, but good luck man.

The One
12-07-2007, 04:06 PM
Uh.. The One, the last time I saw something that could generate an EMP.. it was larger than a car. I'm sorry I can't really help you with anything, but good luck man.
Well, not really. There are people making these things out of damn microwaves or duct tape and a rubber duck.
Those damn bastards...... thanks though :)


Like I said any help will be HIGHLY APPRECIATED ^_^

Asura
12-07-2007, 11:11 PM
If you can make it can i borow it to blow up some school computers in secret?

Eddy_of_the_dead
12-07-2007, 11:58 PM
f you can make it can i borow it to blow up some school computers in secret?
yeah send it to holland to!!!
i dunno how does a EMP works?

The One
12-08-2007, 09:19 AM
i dunno how does a EMP works?
All it is, is just energy thats all. A pulse of it, and if you can control it you can fry any electronic that its aimed to. Radio waves or things like that.
I'm just trying to find something or someone that will tell me how to build it. From what everyone else says you can do it by disassembling a microwave but they dont know anything more than that.

If anyone of you find how or know how by any chance, please post it here so I know. Thanks ^_^

Puscifer
12-08-2007, 09:33 AM
The Only EMP's i know of that are in use are in Zion (towards the centre of the earth) But i suppose u would already know that, u are "The One"! :P lol

na sry don't have a clue m8:(

The One
12-08-2007, 10:53 AM
The Only EMP's i know of that are in use are in Zion (towards the centre of the earth) But i suppose u would already know that, u are "The One"! :P lol

na sry don't have a clue m8:(
Yeah I asked them for blue prints but theyre assholes and wont tell me hahah :P Damn zion to hell........

Its all good bro, thanks anyway :)

frogopus
12-08-2007, 11:24 AM
You'll have to get in touch with me on Steam man, I got crazy extra credit for making a lightsaber in my 8th grade science class and I bet the concept is the same!

Puscifer
12-08-2007, 11:46 AM
You'll have to get in touch with me on Steam man, I got crazy extra credit for making a lightsaber in my 8th grade science class and I bet the concept is the same!


rofl

dontleave
12-08-2007, 11:53 AM
Sounds like your teacher sent you on a fools errand.

The One
12-09-2007, 06:21 AM
Sounds like your teacher sent you on a fools errand.
Lol no cause we've been studying emp for awhile and all its effects blah blah blah so for projects she had each student make or do something with EMP. So I just decided to make something that can control the energy in one direction, and any electronic that comes in touch with it get completely fried.

So far I managed to figure out that the Magnetron in the Microwave is the power for the EMP, and that I have to build a waveguide (which controls the wave of energy from the magnetron in any direction I want without it going everywhere) and I have to figure out a way to power up the magnetron without having to plug it into an outlet. I know the basics for now the thing is putting it together.........


You'll have to get in touch with me on Steam man, I got crazy extra credit for making a lightsaber in my 8th grade science class and I bet the concept is the same!
Lol, ass ^_^

basic
12-09-2007, 07:16 AM
So far I managed to figure out that the Magnetron in the Microwave is the power for the EMP, and that I have to build a waveguide (which controls the wave of energy from the magnetron in any direction I want without it going everywhere) and I have to figure out a way to power up the magnetron without having to plug it into an outlet. I know the basics for now the thing is putting it together.........


just try not to get cancer while playing with microwaves

The One
12-09-2007, 07:26 AM
just try not to get cancer while playing with microwaves
Yeah thats the thing I'm trying to prevent, I dont want to keep it on for too long. Just enough to know that it works. Thats why I'm hoping I build the waveguide right so that the waves dont scatter everywhere..

Eddy_of_the_dead
12-09-2007, 08:08 AM
build a nuke
nukes have a EMP large enough to lay NY in to darkness
:D
i bett your teacher gives you a 10 (A+ for americans)!!

Shrubberyjsc
12-09-2007, 10:18 AM
Don't forget to shield your testicles.

Unless you don't want children...

;)

MrIrony
12-09-2007, 05:31 PM
Don't forget to shield your testicles.

Unless you don't want children...

Darwin award!

Gforcemember45
12-09-2007, 05:42 PM
Eddy is right, all you need is the standard tactical nuclear device. Pick it up at local and highly defened military base before they shoot you for stealing a WMD. 10,999.99 dollars, supplies limited.

The One
12-09-2007, 05:48 PM
Don't forget to shield your testicles.

Unless you don't want children...
Lol damn I really forgot about that.

Eddy is right, all you need is the standard tactical nuclear device. Pick it up at local and highly defened military base before they shoot you for stealing a WMD. 10,999.99 dollars, supplies limited.
God that had me rollin
You think Bush can give me a nice discount?

dontleave
12-09-2007, 06:57 PM
11 million for a WMD?

The One
12-10-2007, 01:14 AM
11 million for a WMD?
Doubt it.

Gforcemember45
12-10-2007, 05:06 AM
The ones that are in storage from the cold are worth a little more, but around that area. And no Bush won't give you a discount. Although if you do get it, detonate it at Hillary's house. There shall be no cows in office, outside the window maybe, but not in the office.

Teknobry
12-10-2007, 11:16 AM
Honestly, what utter b0ll0cks.

You're teacher has given you the task of creating an EMP gun, one which you can't even plug in to power it?!

Are you in junior school, and this weapon is to be made out of empty toilet rolls and fired by going '"BANG BANG!"

caboos
12-10-2007, 11:27 AM
nukes have a EMP large enough to lay NY in to darkness
...you planning something

hooray for zombies
12-10-2007, 11:54 AM
Are you in junior school, and this weapon is to be made out of empty toilet rolls and fired by going '"BANG BANG!"

I've found this method to be just as effective when creating a blaster, you have to go "PEW PEW" instead, but the principle is solid

Gforcemember45
12-10-2007, 12:11 PM
lol

gorgoth
12-10-2007, 01:22 PM
I know how to build a rail gun with ball bearings, magnets, a ruler and tape. Is that good enough?

gorgoth
12-10-2007, 01:23 PM
Ooh and it can punch through plywood.

dontleave
12-10-2007, 01:27 PM
Magnetron

It's Megatron.

The One
12-10-2007, 02:00 PM
Honestly, what utter b0ll0cks.

You're teacher has given you the task of creating an EMP gun, one which you can't even plug in to power it?!

Are you in junior school, and this weapon is to be made out of empty toilet rolls and fired by going '"BANG BANG
Lol I thought it was bullshit too thats why I kept asking her, and no High School. Junior.
Anyway, I've seen it though already through videos.
I guess they made a HERF gun or something thats like the EMP but doesnt permanetly damage the electronics. By disassembling the microwave, getting the magnetron which is what is used to create the wave things, then building a wave guide so that I can concentrate the waves to a direction that I want them to go to. Then find some good battery for the thing to be powered up without being plugged in.
Then its set, problem is I dont know how to put it together :P


I know how to build a rail gun with ball bearings, magnets, a ruler and tape. Is that good enough?\
hahaha wtf are you serious?

hooray for zombies
12-10-2007, 02:34 PM
hahaha wtf are you serious?

it's actually really simple, the only problem is acquiring magnets powerful enough (and there's a site that sells a kit)

The One
12-10-2007, 02:37 PM
it's actually really simple, the only problem is acquiring magnets powerful enough (and there's a site that sells a kit)
No way hahahahaha wow I thought that he was just being sarcastic hahahaha

Gforcemember45
12-10-2007, 02:45 PM
know how to build a rail gun with ball bearings, magnets, a ruler and tape. Is that good enough?

So, i know how to make napalm out of styrofoam, plastics explosives with vinegar, and i pwn in P.R.

gorgoth
12-10-2007, 04:00 PM
I have 100 cubic cm neodymium magnets. They are ridiculously powerful, and if you let them jump together they shatter into a billion pieces of ceramic glass shards. it sucks. Heres a link for the same kinda thing. Also, I was stupid and called it a railgun. Railguns use electricity, mine is a Gauss Rifle. Mine was like 10X larger and was actually remotely dangerous. I punched through drywall and plywood. i was happy ^_^
http://sci-toys.com/scitoys/scitoys/magnets/gauss. html (http://sci-toys.com/scitoys/scitoys/magnets/gauss.html)

The One
12-11-2007, 02:11 AM
oh wow, I'm building one that you can take with you. And pull it out when threatened.

"STEP BACK DAMMIT! I HAVE A MAGNET!"

Kazary
12-11-2007, 03:08 AM
oh i know how you make a emp gun!! okay you need these items!

- some magnets, ones from a lage electric moter work well, kinda above the size of a wheelchair one.
- a car battery
- some toilet paper (box of 4 is good )
- a metal table spoon (that can conduct electricity)
- some lighter fuel
- some car oil
- plastic tubing
- a cardboard box
- Aluminium foil
- pencils
- and a washing up bottle! (it always helps says blue peter!)

okay now follow this meathod:

-strip out the core of the eletric moter so the magnets are still in their rightfull places,
-cut open 4 plastic tubes, and wrap insides with some foil ( about twice the length of the moter) tape them together and place inside the moter.
- get the washign up bottle, and do some dishes with the stuff inside, it makes your mum happy
- get the pencils and stab some holes in the cardboard box and write on the side EMP GUN in cool BIG letters
- make sure there is a hole at which the washing up bottle can stick out from, and cut the bottle in half , stick the tubing to both ends of the moter and the washing up bottle with sticky tape, don't use pva glue otherwise the pulse will go into negitive and cause the glue explode in your face, don't take this lightly, it has the same effect as a atom bomb.
- place in the class room, to charge the gun, make battery connect to the moter
- ???????
- PROFIT!!!

The One
12-11-2007, 09:45 AM
oh i know how you make a emp gun!! okay you need these items!

- some magnets, ones from a lage electric moter work well, kinda above the size of a wheelchair one.
- a <a style='text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 3px double;' href=&quot;http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=2 4&k=car%20battery&quot; onmouseover=&quot;window.status='car battery'; return true;&quot; onmouseout=&quot;window.status=''; return true;&quot;>car battery</a>
- some <a style='text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 3px double;' href=&quot;http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=2 4&k=toilet%20paper&quot; onmouseover=&quot;window.status='toilet paper'; return true;&quot; onmouseout=&quot;window.status=''; return true;&quot;>toilet paper</a> (box of 4 is good )
- a metal table spoon (that can conduct electricity)
- some lighter fuel
- some car oil
- plastic tubing
- a cardboard box
- Aluminium foil
- pencils
- and a washing up bottle! (it always helps says blue peter!)

okay now follow this meathod:

-strip out the core of the eletric moter so the magnets are still in their rightfull places,
-cut open 4 plastic tubes, and wrap insides with some foil ( about twice the length of the moter) tape them together and place inside the moter.
- get the washign up bottle, and do some dishes with the stuff inside, it makes your mum happy
- get the pencils and stab some holes in the cardboard box and write on the side EMP GUN in cool BIG letters
- make sure there is a hole at which the washing up bottle can stick out from, and cut the bottle in half , stick the tubing to both ends of the moter and the washing up bottle with sticky tape, don't use pva glue otherwise the pulse will go into negitive and cause the glue explode in your face, don't take this lightly, it has the same effect as a atom bomb.
- place in the class room, to charge the gun, make battery connect to the moter
- ???????
- PROFIT!!!
Are you really serious? If you are man I'll build it cause i still havent found away to make that other one. /sar

Kazary
12-11-2007, 10:25 AM
LOL i thought you would catch on after the &quot;washing up bottle&quot; XD

even after the &quot;write EMP GUN in big cool letters&quot;? xD didn't ring any alarm bells?

i was joking around man xD sorry to dissappoint you, hasen't google come up with anything?

The One
12-11-2007, 02:12 PM
LOL i thought you would catch on after the &quot;washing up bottle&quot; XD

even after the &quot;write EMP GUN in big cool letters&quot;? xD didn't ring any alarm bells?

i was joking around man xD sorry to dissappoint you, hasen't google come up with anything?
Lol I forgot to add /sar after that :P

Nah google hasnt done stuff. I'm still trying to get the other thing built but I can.....

Gforcemember45
12-11-2007, 02:31 PM
Dude go the easy way have a gun and make bullets that create miniature emps.

The One
12-12-2007, 01:39 AM
make bullets that create miniature emps
lol wouldnt it be more making emp bullets? lol

Eddy_of_the_dead
12-12-2007, 04:34 AM
...you planning something
shhhhh
and you dont need to buy a nuke!!
you can build 1 your self!!

you need;
a lab
a atom splicer
a hollow bom
a presure detonator

fill the hollow bomb whit unranium
invent a way to splice atoms whit the presure detonator
and ta da!! your own nuke!!:D

at least thats how the A-team would do it....

MonsterR89
12-12-2007, 06:35 AM
Im not going to lie i am having a hard time believing any teacher, before a third year university teacher would give an assignment like that, and even if they did it would have some pretty damn clear instructions on what to do, forget not having kids, try having some sick cancer. That being said, i hope you get it working because that would be pretty damn cool, frying all the rich kids ipods.

Teknobry
12-12-2007, 08:19 AM
Yep, I'm yet again calling bullsh*t on this whole thing.

What next, cure AIDS? Develop a BFG10000?

&quot;the easiest way to generate the energy for an EMP is through an abrupt chemical or nuclear explosion&quot;

Basically, an electromagnetic pulse gun is just going to fire a massive burst of electrons. How on earth would you power such a device?! You'd have to have it plugged directly into the national grid at 400,000volts, even then your range would be about ten feet.


&quot;Non-nuclear electromagnetic pulse (NNEMP) is an electromagnetic pulse generated without use of nuclear weapons. There are a number of devices to achieve this objective, ranging from a large low-inductance capacitor bank discharged into a single-loop antenna or a microwave generator to an explosively pumped flux compression generator. To achieve the frequency characteristics of the pulse needed for optimal coupling into the target, wave-shaping circuits and/or microwave generators are added between the pulse source and the antenna.&quot;

Basically, you're being asked to build something that is so far advanced its not possible yet to use as a portable device. The smartest scientists on the planet can't do it, but you recon your teacher has asked you to?

Gforcemember45
12-12-2007, 08:40 AM
well if he was able to, he would be set for life. Because the military would buy it, just imagine having the power to short circuit tanks, apcs, and helios. Why we would become the ultimate superpower!

The One
12-14-2007, 04:25 AM
Yep, I'm yet again calling bullsh*t on this whole thing.

What next, cure AIDS? Develop a BFG10000?

&quot;the easiest way to generate the energy for an EMP is through an abrupt chemical or nuclear explosion&quot;

Basically, an electromagnetic pulse gun is just going to fire a massive burst of electrons. How on earth would you power such a device?! You'd have to have it plugged directly into the national grid at 400,000volts, even then your range would be about ten feet.


&quot;Non-nuclear electromagnetic pulse (NNEMP) is an electromagnetic pulse generated without use of nuclear weapons. There are a number of devices to achieve this objective, ranging from a large low-inductance capacitor bank discharged into a single-loop antenna or a microwave generator to an explosively pumped flux compression generator. To achieve the frequency characteristics of the pulse needed for optimal coupling into the target, wave-shaping circuits and/or microwave generators are added between the pulse source and the antenna.&quot;

Basically, you're being asked to build something that is so far advanced its not possible yet to use as a portable device. The smartest scientists on the planet can't do it, but you recon your teacher has asked you to?



Lol I finally found some kid in school that knows a lot about this kind of stuff. So I partnered up with him and built this little platform thing out of the microwave like I said. But it gets plugged in an outlet, which is not what I want, but dont matter. It doesnt generate enough power to shut down cars and shit like that. No, just enough to bug some electronics. Like a Computer monitor, if you aimed it right at it, it will start freakin out a bit. I havent tried it for a long time cause the last thing I need is the microwaves giving me cancer and shit. But I bet for a long time aimed at it would eventually shut down.
The only thing we need to figure out is to power it without an outlet, with a strong enough battery to keep it goin for a bit.

well if he was able to, he would be set for life. Because the military would buy it, just imagine having the power to short circuit tanks, apcs, and helios. Why we would become the ultimate superpower!
I never thought of it that way, I WILL BE CHARGIN MAH LAZAHS! And you will all be my bitches.. but sadly, I dont think I could stick with it. I'll probably drop it as soon as L4D comes out.

The One
12-14-2007, 04:28 AM
Develop a BFG10000?

Do you have any idea how powerful I'd be if I did that?! I WOULD BE A GOD!

sorry for dp by the way

Gforcemember45
12-14-2007, 04:54 AM
Maybe you will just be some one famous for the rest of time until it stops, but no God.

Eddy_of_the_dead
12-14-2007, 05:39 AM
naah if you invent cold fuzion then youll be a god
and you can start wars

Gforcemember45
12-14-2007, 06:02 AM
eddy if we developed cold fusion, there wouldn't be any wars left cause every would have killed each other for it.

The One
12-14-2007, 04:47 PM
naah if you invent cold fuzion then youll be a god
Cold Fusion?