Jamming your gun.

[xxbl4ckxx]

what if you where in the middle of shhoting up a zombie with a m4a1 and you run out of ammo in that clip. you go to reload and then you have a Jam. to releave the jam there is a small bar in the middle of the screen and it says fixing jam. it slowly goes up the jam last about 5-8 seconds. The orenge bar in the middle is the time limit bar. once the bar fills with orenge you have fixed the jam. To make the Jam go by faster you would have to click R and scroll the mouse3 forward rapidly to relive the time to 3-4 seconds. Would this make the game more difficult?? you can only get a Jam 1-2 times per game. usually 1 unless u keep changing guns.

[Tarron]

i'm confused? strawberry or raspberry? and who's James?

[USS_Stud]

who's James?
I am, but what does this have to do with jamming your gun in L4D?

[Tarron]

would you consider James in L4D

new character? :P

i voted no btw, i think its a really bad idea. doesn't sound very fun.

[Kenny]

In trying to make the game more realistic by adding jams, it's in turn making it more unrealistic. Now, I'm no gun expert of modern day weaponry, but I'm pretty sure they don't jam very often, if at all anymore? (Excluding M16s, that is)

I'm also under the impression that this would instantly kill you. You are in the middle of fighting zombies and BAM, gun jams. You switch to pistol, you fire your rounds.. out of ammo. Dead. :(

[USS_Stud]

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b88/GearZero/gears-of-war-20060714024932572-000.jpg
Someone just say "jamming your gun"? Because I think I just heard someone say "jamming your gun".

[KashMunni]

new character? :P

i voted no btw, i think its a really bad idea. doesn't sound very fun.

[xxbl4ckxx]

i would say the Directer pics one person to have a jam through the WHole game, JUST ONE

[dontleave]

Yeah... Jamming your gun was annoying in AA, it'd be even more annoying in close quarters with 40 people trying to tear you to pieces. And why the random new character thing?

[squerl]

Ya, I really like the ideas that would add to the suspense though. Things like jamming your gun/having your gun being torn from your hands. An 'oh shit oh shit oh shit' scramble with hordes of infected running at you..

Not sure what this would be, or if it's necessary, but IF they are going to implement stuff like this, they'd have to do it at launch (otherwise nobody would like it being put in) or it'd have to be introduced with a new boss zombie (call him the Magneter).

[Kenny]

Not sure what this would be, or if it's necessary, but IF they are going to implement stuff like this, they'd have to do it at launch (otherwise nobody would like it being put in) or it'd have to be introduced with a new boss zombie (call him the Magneter).


Magneto turned zombie? XD *Zap* Oh noes! Mah gun is jammed! ARGH!

[dontleave]

I have a feeling it'd be more frustrating than suspenseful though.

http://www.imageviper.com/displayimage/98932/0/Untitled-1.jpg (http://www.imageviper.com/displayimage/98932/0/Untitled-1.jpg)

[Shrubberyjsc]

Again, I think that the devs want the survivor side to be approachable, and every new thing you add is just going to make it a steeper learning curve.

That said, I do think that some realism mod will probably put this in, and depending on the frequency of it happening, I think I might be okay with it.

[dontleave]

That said, I do think that some realism mod will probably put this in, and depending on the frequency of it happening, I think I might be okay with it.

Left 4 Dead: Tactical xD

[Pain]

Yes I would consider this idea. Although I think the OP's idea is quite harsh and needs to be a little more... yeah, you know..

For example, you said that fixing your jam would take 5-8 second. If you don't mind me saying this, I think that's a little bit to much to ask for :)

reloading your weapons doesn't take more than 3 seconds. Why should just fixing a jam take 5-8? In my opinion fixing a jam should take less time than reloading a weapon.

Also, the chances of a jam actually occurring should be slim, about 1 out of 100. but hey, maybe this can be changed depending on what difficulty setting you are playing. The harder setting, the greater chance of jamming

that's what I think.. :)


Edit:

Oh yeah, almost forgot. No bars. when you gun jams there should be messegae on the scrren saying "Your gun has jammed. Press "X" to fix it" or something. Think that would work beter

[Stickgore]

Lol gears of war style.

[globalenjoi]

I'm not a fan of the idea of gun jamming. I really don't see how it could be fun for you if your gun jams, and you can't shoot the zombies. Especially in a game where teamwork is supposed to be a core element. What happens if two of your four survivors have a gun jam at the same time? You prolly get jacked up from the tons of zombies trying to tear your face off.

While I kinda like the idea of the gun being able to be torn from your hands, or knocked out of them, I don't have much faith in it. Red Orchestra had the ability to shoot guns out of peoples hands. But in my experience, it was only ever a nuisance. It never enhanced the fun I had.

I'm all for a more immersive and suspenseful experience, but not at the cost of gameplay.

[asu]

Oh yeah, almost forgot. No bars. when you gun jams there should be messegae on the scrren saying "Your gun has jammed. Press "X" to fix it" or something. Think that would work beter
Exactly what I was thinking. The idea of random jams could add more pache and "oh shit" moments to the game, but IF TRS should include such thing it would (IMO) be better to just hit a key like in Americas Army than filling up some bar.
I also agree with squerl,
Not sure what this would be, or if it's necessary, but IF they are going to implement stuff like this, they'd have to do it at launch (otherwise nobody would like it being put in)
and Shrubberyjsc:
I think that the devs want the survivor side to be approachable, and every new thing you add is just going to make it a steeper learning curve.

[USS_Stud]

Jams?




... no jams...

[Puscifer]

i think that would just piss u off tbh, cool idea though and i can see where ur coming from:)

[hooray for zombies]

I'm all for adding suspense, but I would think that there are better ways of creating it than throwing in a Random "Sux 2 B u LOL" fuck you by the director. Maybe by giving a new boss infected some ability to screw with the minds of survivors, or putting in points where cooperation is required to move forwards whilst being assaulted by waves of infected. Basically, challenge me, don't make me roll dice.

[Puscifer]

Basically, challenge me, don't make me roll dice.


well said. No point adding random gameplay elements like this, thinking tactically about what time to re load will be hard enough without ur gun jamming on u:P

[Armored_Zombie_Cow]

omg...wouldnt it be sweet if some1 released an l4d single player mod where u have the portal gun, and then u just play thru the scenario alone? taht would be fun!!!
it would be just for kicks, im not saying that i would play this forever over l4d, but shooting portal infront of horde, and then on side of building up high and watching them fall to their deaths would be fun lol!
this could also implement an online 2 person multiplayer where its like portal w/ puzzles but with the occasional zombies (no bosses)
this could bring cool moments where both of u would work together to accomplish someting using the portal gun (there would be one, taht u would have to pass back and forth occasionally)

[USS_Stud]

no

[dontleave]

Lol.

[Eddy_of_the_dead]

omg...wouldnt it be sweet if some1 released an l4d single player mod where u have the portal gun, and then u just play thru the scenario alone? taht would be fun!!!
no it would not

[Plankie]

And why the random new character thing?

It's not a random new character thing. He misspelled jams and wrote it capitalized. Unless you were being sarcastic?

Anyway, I would consider this annoying. I don't like random things that can ruin it for me or anybody else I play with who's decent. Maybe if it wasn't random, and you had to do something wrong for it to happen, 'cause then I could avoid it and only noobs would suffer from the consequences, mwehehe.

[Eddy_of_the_dead]

damm right plankie

[daleluck1313]

It'd be cool for an achievement - as long as you could turn it off whenever you wanted to.

Putting it into gameplay would break the fun for those who love killing zombies without interruption.

[dontleave]

An achievement? For turning on weapon jamming and not getting your weapon jammed?

[Puscifer]

An achievement? For turning on weapon jamming and not getting your weapon jammed?

ahuuhuuuuuuu!

[Nemesis_vs_Leon]

Someone just say "jamming your gun"? Because I think I just heard someone say "jamming your gun".
nice screenshot.

I don't think "james" could make it much better. He's the guy that turned into the boomer. Too much pizza.

[USS_Stud]

what if you where in the middle of running away from zombies in a cramped appt complex. you go to the closest escape route/door and it's locked. to unlock it you have to take out your lockpick and ram your "use" key several hundred times (walla RE:O). it slowly unlocks the lock last about 5-8 seconds. once you hear a loud click youve have unlocked the lock. To make the unlock go by faster you would have to press... the "use" key several hundred times, FASTER. Would this make the game more difficult?? you can only find a locked door 1-2 times per game. usually 1 unless u keep finding locked doors.

fixed

oh wait

[daleluck1313]

An achievement? For turning on weapon jamming and not getting your weapon jammed?

For getting through a level without failing and with frequent weapon jams. Still it would be annoying.

[GuStick]

I can see it now,ur fighting a ton of zombies,u start stressing,and then ur gun jams,the character yells "OMG WHY THE FUCK NOW"
and u die

[globalenjoi]

I can see it now,ur fighting a ton of zombies,u start stressing,and then ur gun jams,the character yells "OMG WHY THE FUCK NOW"
and u die

That doesn't sound fun in all honesty. I think it will actually be -more- fun to stay alive and kill zombies, rather than just die because my gun jammed.

[GuStick]

Dint say i wanted it in the game,just a "i can see it now" of how it would look like,honestly it was annoying as hell in AA,really wouldnt want one with dozens of zombies who have nothing better to do then rip my face apart

[dontleave]

What the hell is "(walla RE:O)" supposed to mean?

[GuStick]

What the hell is "(walla RE:O)" supposed to mean?
where did u read that

[hooray for zombies]

What the hell is "(walla RE:O)" supposed to mean?

I think it's supposed to be a la RE:O (resident evil: outbreak)

[MonsterR89]

The only possible situation where I could see something like this fitting into the game, is just a variable difficulty setting. There would still be easy, medium, hard etc... But there would also be Realistic.

[darksora2323]

JohnnyFlash: we've toyed with stuff like that, but it usually ends more irritating than fun

pwnt

[Esgar]

I'm not too thrilled with this idea. All I can see it leading to is a sharp increase in the amount of expletives screamed by players.

[Left4Dead2008]

Can we have this kind of jam instead?




http://i14.tinypic.com/8b6kvuu.jpg

[Skeetles]

NICE FUCKING BUMP

[Left4Dead2008]

Thanks man, that means alot.

[Kenny]

7 to 42? Ouch.

[josko]

It should be a option, and like 1 to a 1000 chance to happend, Then it would be cool and realastic. It would increase the excitment ;D
Like OH shiet! my m16 jammed, I gotta take my 9mm pistol, Die zomb fucks! And you run somewhere safe with your 4 team group Hehe ;d

[Deltus]

Who's James, fellas?