Just wasted 245€

[Asura]

Yeah ges woot, i buyed Warhamme 40k >;D
NECRONS!

52x Warriors
8x Destroyers
13x Scrab warms
1x Necron Lord
1x Tomb Spider
2x Monolith

Now, gonna take long time to buold/paint these.

[Puscifer]

well u do have a while untill left 4 dead comes out;P

[Kenny]

Sweet, another 40K guy! So do you have people to play with, and how many points do you play at? Two monoliths seems like an odd choice to me.

[Eddy_of_the_dead]

indeed..... srry kenny
i played it 2 years ago (imps and sisters of batle)
it was great.... whit friends... the tournaments where..... scary,
peeps starting to talk to there litle toy soldiers...... and if my imp oficer "killed" 7 space marnines single handed it must have a name (i called him Bob)
the "nerdes" is realy high...

[Atari]

Great game & a great buy Asura :)

I'm afraid of playing most RTS games online and I'm not ashamed to admit it.

(Maybe a little)

[Riordin]

i gots space marines and demon hunters.

[Master_Bungle]

I'm afraid of playing most RTS games online and I'm not ashamed to admit it.
Me too. I ALWAYS lose badly... Reactions to slow... Can't do anything in time... Where did that unit go? Oh it's dead... And I forgot about those...
Those are my general thoughts when playing...
I used to play Warhammer Fantasy. Found it more strategical than 40K. Good fun until I realised I couldn't be bothered actually making and painting the models, I just liked to play the game. What a waste of money that was. Should have bought pre-made ones second hand!

[Eddy_of_the_dead]

indeed...

[Asura]

Two monoliths seems like an odd choice to me.

OH and i just noticed that i actualy have over 50 warriors, wut? xD
And monolith is the power you know, for teleporting and killing.

Me too. I ALWAYS lose badly... Reactions to slow... Can't do anything in time... Where did that unit go? Oh it's dead... And I forgot about those...Those are my general thoughts when playing...I used to play Warhammer Fantasy. Found it more strategical than 40K. Good fun until I realised I couldn't be bothered actually making and painting the models, I just liked to play the game. What a waste of money that was. Should have bought pre-made ones second hand!

I dont like fantasy =O its too...fantasy??
And oh well i play DoW too, as necrons wtf? and SM.

But anyway i started WH40k 4 years ago and played as chaos. I sucked and lsot every battle. But i have learned some necrons stuff and i realy like em and i think they fit my play style. I have 5 friends to play 40k, so games going to be fun. Stil im tihking about what kind of paint i shoudl use for my necrons.

[Master_Bungle]

peeps starting to talk to there litle toy soldiers
Haha, yeah. Some of the Warhammer fans got a little too into it... I saw it as a strategy game. Nothing more. :D

[Kenny]

And monolith is the power you know, for teleporting and killing.

Oh I know.. I'm really into 40K. I'm wanting to start a Black Templar/Soul Drinker SM army, or Tzeentch/Thousand Sons Chaos Army.. undivided is too bland for me. If not chaos.. definitely Tyranids.

I love Necrons, but there is not a whole lot of different strategies you can do with them because of the lack of unit variety.. but they are definitely one of the better races out of the eleven.

I have yet to start an army of my own - but I own most of the army codex books and have a couple armies planned out for purchase. They are quite expensive.. just a matter of getting a hold on that amount of money!

I do have a lot of the Fluff books as well.

Edit: And no, I'm definitely not afraid to admit I am indeed a nerd. Especially when it comes to Warhammer.

[Asura]

I have yet to start an army of my own - but I own most of the army codex books and have a couple armies planned out for purchase. They are quite expensive.. just a matter of getting a hold on that amount of money!

Yeah, but im not good tactican at 40k :D
i lost like 8 of my 10 games. But i did not know shit back then.
I like how necrons deal the game.
And this money came from my job, i did not know that i got so much pay so i was liek "Oh wtf! now i can buy necrons??! COOL!"

[Prometheus]

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[globalenjoi]

I never understood those games people play with those, or even how they could. I must admit I'd feel retarded playing it, but that's just me.

Though I will say I've always wanted to have collections of those guys just to have and paint and such. I think those are awesome =D

[asu]

may I say...
WAAAGH!!!!!!!!
"Da Orks arr da bestest an ´ardest in da univerz!"

[Kenny]

Haha, I know a few ork fans here. I'm waiting for him to come in and say something.. he might be too shy to show his nerdiness out in the open though.. :P

Edit: Also, 52 warriors? Holy crap man. Get a tomb spyder or something in that there army!

[Gforcemember45]

Damn, that must have set you back quite a bit. Anyway, WH40k is awesome and i've been thinking about about buying some of figures. Should i? i could always use another hobby.

[Kenny]

Well, they are certainly expensive, and require actual research before you being buying your army pieces. It's certainly a good hobby - if you have the time, money, and patience!

[Master_Bungle]

he might be too shy to show his nerdiness out in the open though.. :P
Well he better! When I did play 40k I played Ork Speed Freaks!! Kicked ass. I'm proud of being a geek. Geeks are awesome (well, to a certain extent... There are those who are just... Well, REALLY geeky...). I only ever played with friends though, never liked the geekiness of the work shops. Never got along with them. They all took it too seriously.

[Stupoider]

IMO, 40K is a rip, throwing money to buy pieces of plastic and metal.. I should have used my money more wisely when I was 9..

[Kenny]

If you enjoy doing something, it isn't a "rip". :)
I have a couple of friends that I play some table-top and RPG games with. We usually just play in a basement or something. Really, really stereotypical. Haha

[Gforcemember45]

well i might buy them to play the game, but i would use them for pieces of art. I've always liked to make battles from table top games.

[Teknobry]

245 euro!!? wow, thats expensive!

Am enjoying the pc games dawn of war and dark crusade, but never got into the actual 'board' game.

Am struggling as necrons in Dark crusade, any tips for what tactics work well with them? chaos just keep overwhelming me, and thats just the first level! lol.

Space marines FTW!

[Kenny]

Teknobry - hit me up on steam sometime. I've played Dawn of War ever since first release. I know quite a few strategies!

Edit: That is.. so long as you are not looking for help with Eldar. Man I hate Eldar. XD

[frogopus]

Orkorkork

[darksora2323]

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[Kenny]

Orkorkork

:) There we go! I was waiting for that. lol

[Master_Bungle]

Teknobry - hit me up on steam sometime. I've played Dawn of War ever since first release. I know quite a few strategies!
I tried to play Dark Crusade online, but stopped cause I wanted to play as the Imperial Guard, but got destroyed in the few times I tried... Got any tips? Haven't played the game in so long, but I might try again. Just bad a macromanagement. Always forget to make more units... Basically, focusing on more than one thing at once gets me! FPSs and so simple in that respect!

[frogopus]

I tried to play Dark Crusade online, but stopped cause I wanted to play as the Imperial Guard, but got destroyed in the few times I tried... Got any tips? Haven't played the game in so long, but I might try again. Just bad a macromanagement. Always forget to make more units... Basically, focusing on more than one thing at once gets me! FPSs and so simple in that respect!
Yah thats my problem too, which is why I never play kiddies online. Basically the best thing to do is have a few friends to play with that are hopefully as crappy or just a little better. With IG, you really want to do whatever you can to get out of the first tier and then get an HW team or two. Tier 1 is the hardest tier for IG, I think. Get nade launchers on your inf because they're terrifying.

[dontleave]

2x Monolith

... I think the general consensus is "wtf?"

I actually opened this topic up at school, and the guy next to me said, and I quote: "Two monoliths? What a freak!"

[Kenny]

So.. just puttin' this out there. If anyone needs help with anything, talk to me or frog. We were at a point of playing each other every day, so we have seen a lot of strategies. If you wanted to play I'm sure either one of us would be willing to help - if not both of us. I just go by Kenny in the 411 chat.

[bboi018]

Warhammer 40k looks fun to play with o_o im not much of a tabletop gamer, too much money, no paint :P and i cant paint (looks too hard, especially with all the details on the molds), but ive always wanted to collect Magic the Gathering cards :D if that counts as anything.

[hooray for zombies]

but ive always wanted to collect Magic the Gathering cards :D if that counts as anything.
I would reccomend at least trying it, if you can get a group of friends to play it with it can be quite rewarding.

[KashMunni]

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/565/haltow4.png (http://imageshack.us)

[Kenny]

Erm, whats with that Kash?

[dontleave]

Erm, whats with that Kash?

He doesn't approve of your Warhammeratiering, in that case.

<Prepares anti-anime picture of silly Nazi's on ice>

[Eddy_of_the_dead]

never liked the geekiness of the work shops. Never got along with them. They all took it too seriously.
indeed as soon i thinke hey! why not put this head on a leg place??
they screamed names at me!! as if it where blasfemie! :O!!

&quot;Da Orks arr da bestest an ´ardest in da univerz!&quot;
no there just &quot;meat for imperial grinding&quot;

Am struggling as necrons in Dark crusade, any tips for what tactics work well with them? chaos just keep overwhelming me, and thats just the first level! lol
create 3 spider thingy's at the start let them take the control poitns... buy wariors then... etc

Man I hate Eldar. XD
stupid elf wanabes!

[Kenny]

create 3 spider thingy's at the start let them take the control poitns... buy wariors then... etc

... Man, lol. Thats some GREAT advice. haha

stupid elf wanabes!

Well.. they are actually elven. XD

[Teknobry]

Quoting: Eddy_of_the_dead

create 3 spider thingy's at the start let them take the control poitns... buy wariors then... etc

... Man, lol. Thats some GREAT advice. haha

was gonna say...thats not a great deal of help! lol. I've completed DOW, but DC seems ALOT harder.

[QuotidianTemerity]

I'd like to put special emphasis on his usage of the term 'wasted'.













Just kidding. W40K 4 teh winrar.




Edit: great, now I have to go and buy another of Dan Abnett (http://www.blacklibrary.com/author.asp?id=1)'s bloody books. This thread was the equivalent of some random bloke shoving chocolate into the mouth of an individual desperately trying to lose weight.

[Asura]

Ooh im pro at necrons in DC :D

Lol and i just have builded 10 warriors, spider and lord.
My fucking fingers are full of glue!

I statred playing DOW when it came, but yeah.

I usualy play Quick Start in DC, And alweys make full scrab builders in start and go to the next tech tree as soon as bossible.
And then build Lord and 3 necron units. And so on ;D

In standard i alweys waste all the energy when i can, i make full scrabs as alweys and start to take strategy points as soon as i can and build energy generators. And upgrade my warriors stronger. Then gather 300energy and go to Tech 2. Make some flayed ones, alweys deepstrike them to your base and make theyr sguadcap full. Then just try to defend and make enemy pissed off with your units and upgrade to your tech 3 as soon as you can, and dont forget upgrade necron warriors to final upgrade. Get relic ins tart of the game so you can get monolith as fast as you can.
Oh and dont forget to upgrade your energy to tect 3 too. Alweys make it tect 2 before making tech 2 buildings.

Oh and be fast >;D

Edit: great, now I have to go and buy another of Dan Abnett's bloody books. This thread was the equivalent of some random bloke shoving chocolate into the mouth of an individual desperately trying to lose weight.

Those rocks! i got titan and blood guest comics.

[Kenny]

DC is harder, I have to admit.. but the reason it is harder, is because the teams are more balanced.

For necrons, my strategy goes as such *normally*:

1) Use starting scarab builders to either build a gen, or cap one point + build LP on it.

2) Build two warrior squads, reinforce one all the way.

3) Another scarab squad, one of the two squads stays at base and continues to build generators for a while.

4) Continue capturing strategic points with the other squad, always having my warriors nearby.

5) Get summoning core up ASAP. That way you can use the warriors to defend basically the entire map, provided you have structures around.

6) Necron Lord, you should try to get him out ASAP also, he's definitely an integral part.

7) Get warrior upgrade ASAP, this makes warriors early game nearly unstoppable.

8) By this time usually you are being attacked, try to tech up to tier 2, or get even more warriors out. You don't have to worry about vehicles in tier 1 unless fighting Imperial Gaurd.

9) The.. whatever its called. Forbidden something - gives artifacts to your necron lord.
- If fighting Tau I get: Solar Pulse, Phylactery (SP?), Night Shroud.
- If fighting Chaos/Ork: Solar Pulse or Lightning Field (This depends on if they are teching certain things), Phylactery, Resurrection Orb.
- If fighting Eldar: Solar Pulse, Phylactery, Resurrection Orb.
- If fighting IG: SOLAR PULSE!!!, Phylactery, random third.
- If fighting Space Marines: Same as above.
- If fighting Necrons: Resurrection Orb, Nightmare Shroud, Phylactery.

10) Tier 2 either way - immortals. Get them. One of the best AV units in the game, in my opinion.

11) Get those tomb spyders out real quick. They will save your butt more times than you can imagine! Don't be afraid to use the scarab summon ability and reinforce them, they are amazing.

12) Nightbringer - definitely get it before monolith. He might not do as much damage, but he is invulnerable while in that form. Great distraction.

Tips:
- Necron has a huge focus on infantry, but don't forget about the destroyers! They do MASSIVE damage.

- Flayed ones - I didn't mention them because I don't really use them unless fighting IG or Tau. If you fight IG, ALWAYS, ALWAYS use them. They do constant morale damage just by being close to units, and guardsman get schooled by that seeing as they have low morale. Tau.. you just need to keep them for shooting. I don't follow what Asura said about summoning them in your base where it is safe either. They are too slow to catch someone who is good at micro-ing units. Summon them behind enemy lines while you are fighting, and auto-reinforce them. It works wonders.

- Honestly, I don't use the lord destroyer at all, but he is especially useful for taking dreadnoughts and the like.

- Never keep your entire army in one spot as Necrons, if something happens they are too slow to react if you don't have the summoning ready yet.

- Remember, if you are fighting a ranged intensive team, such as eldar, tau, and imperial guard.. your Necron warriors are effective at ranged fighting and melee. If you can force those teams into melee, well, they are forced to either run or die.



If you need anything else, just let me know. I'm full of info for dawn of war, haha.

[Eddy_of_the_dead]

:O you realy worked it out!
when soul storm comes out.... your dead!
the siters of batle pwnds everthingy thats &quot;unholy&quot; in their eyes :D

be afaird!

[Teknobry]

Oh and be fast >;D

I played it again last night and realised that^^ is where I went wrong. I messed about at the start of the map, getting used to the units, only capturing a few points, slowly building up my base. By the time I had fully tech'd up chaos had taken practically every control point and were throwing legions of troops at me, including big ass flying demon things! lol. It was never ending though, every 30seconds they assaulted, and this was only the first map of the campaign, rated at 1 difficulty!

Restarted it, quickly captured as much as I could and attacked, they soon got whupped. :D No big ass demons either.

Thanks for the post though, I'll use those tactics next time I play.

[Kenny]

No problem Teknobry, I don't have much to do anyway. haha. Being fast is definitely part of this game though for sure!

[Teknobry]

No problem Teknobry, I don't have much to do anyway. haha. Being fast is definitely part of this game though for sure!

Yeah, thats what caught me out. Dawn of war, you could just sit in a section of the map with a few control points building up your army and tech'ing up until you were ready, at most you just got a few foot soldiers thrown at you and the odd vehicle.

No such luck with this!

[Kenny]

If you want to make the game even harder.. try out the &quot;Skirmish AI Mod&quot;. It makes the AI straight up ridiculous - almost like fighting a person. You can find it on dawn of war files' website if you are really interested, but most mods like the Sisters of Battle mod come with it.

[Eddy_of_the_dead]

:O played the soulstorm demo
i found out...
the Dark Eldar are bigger faggots then i expected!!
im still wandering why THQ and Gamesworkshop decident that Dark Eldar are cooler than tryiands!!!
but the sister of batle seems to be kick ass!

[Kenny]

Lets not start calling the teams fags. lol
Dark Eldar have twisted beliefs - which is why they are part Chaos. Slaanesh worshipers.

THQ decided Tyranids were not to be in the current Dawn of War series because the current game engine wouldn't do them justice. That is quite literally what THQ said. :(

[Gforcemember45]

so what if it wouldn't do them justice, put them in damnit!!

[asu]

DoW became boring after Winter Assault. The IMBA and the whole spam, spam, spam, omgwtfbbq spam of units killed the game IMO.

Company of Heroes has WAY more strategic potential, plus a real engine that generates active environmental changes. Only downer is crappy RelicOnline...

[Kenny]

DoW became boring after Winter Assault. The IMBA and the whole spam, spam, spam, omgwtfbbq spam of units killed the game IMO.

I have to tell this to everyone who thinks this: Dark Crusade. That is all.

so what if it wouldn't do them justice, put them in damnit!!

I totally agree.. seriously. I was so disappointed when they announced that! I suppose they have a chance for the next entirely new Dawn of War game, not expansion.. :(.

[Shrubberyjsc]

Company of Heroes has WAY more strategic potential, plus a real engine that generates active environmental changes. Only downer is crappy RelicOnline...

Yeah, I just got the &quot;Expansion&quot; and started it up. The login thing assaults me for a username/password and I flip out.

lol

Turns out to just play a LAN game you have to start the game up with your network cable unplugged.

o_O

[Asura]

WHAT!
SOULSTORM DEMO!!
WHAAAT!

Why i did not know that!
*downloading*

WohoO!!

i so want kick some ass with necrons :D

[Deek]

I'm a WHFB guy myself, but I've always wanted to move into 40k. The guys I game with are all anti-40k though, for no real good reason. Bunch of assholes. I need to find some new friends ...

[frogopus]

From just a few games of Warhammer 40k, I have to say its a little too range spammy for me. WHFB is supposedly more in line with what I'm used to (first two expansions of Mage Knight) where there is more tactical movement. 40K is literally move 6 inches, fire 48. Melee is decisive but likely not seen until the last round or two.

To Tek, the only thing I would add to Kenny's bit about necron is always be building from your HQ. This is especially important in the early game. If you don't have anything to build, build more scarabs. Scarabs and warriors are free and scarabs don't even use squad points.

Oh and if you're fighting ranged intensive, these races will really not want you to get into melee and chances are they can out run you. A wraith or two can make the difference here. They suffer minimal range damage and can close the gap fast, locking up their ranged while you move your melee in.

Soulstorm demo is good fun, the Dark Eldar are a lot more interesting to me than Eldar ever were.

[Eddy_of_the_dead]

Company of Heroes has WAY more strategic potential, plus a real engine that generates active environmental changes
wow thats a diferent game you moron .......
its a no go the compare CoH whit DoW

the Dark Eldar are a lot more interesting to me than Eldar ever were
i rahter have tryiands

[QuotidianTemerity]

THQ decided Tyranids were not to be in the current Dawn of War series because the current game engine wouldn't do them justice. That is quite literally what THQ said. :(

Yeah, engine limitations. Where have I heard that before.





Dark Eldar joke;

How many mon-keighs does it take to tile a bathroom?










It depends on how thinly you slice them.

[Deek]

wow thats a diferent game you moron .......
its a no go the compare CoH whit DoW
Why not? Same developer (Relic). In that, CoH and DoW share several identical (and many more similar) gameplay tenets. CoH is/was simply a massive facelift for DoW, with an obvious shift to WW2 from the subject matter of 40k.

I played DoW obsessively, but I stopped when Relic released CoH. It's all that is good with DoW (minus the 40k or course), plus tons of additional goodness. I understand why people continue to play the DoW series, but CoH is a perfectly acceptable (and in my opinion, superior) alternative.

... but whatever. This isn't a DoW versus CoH thread. The man purchased Necrons. Good on ya! They are the spiritual kissing cousins of the Tomb Kings, my WHFB army of choice.

[Asura]

The man purchased Necrons. Good on ya! They are the spiritual kissing cousins of the Tomb Kings, my WHFB army of choice.

Hail to the machine/undead >;D

22 warrios, monolih, lord, spider, 3 destroyers buildet so far.
Gonna do 4th destroyer soon and 4 warriors.

[Kenny]

Yep - I just assembled two SM tactical squads, a Tyranid genestealer squad and termagaunt squad.

[frogopus]

I own CoH and DoW and I find myself playing the latter. CoH is a better game in a lot of ways but it breaks away from the standard RTS form that I like and I'm just not interested in the setting at all.

[Asura]

Yep - I just assembled two SM tactical squads, a Tyranid genestealer squad and termagaunt squad.

Btw, do you paint your marines from certain places before you glue them?
i usualy assamble whoe warrior first before painting. Of course i leave the green thingy out of it :P and glue it when painted.

[Shrubberyjsc]

I love the Brits.

=D

[Kenny]

Actually, I don't use glue at all. I don't really need it, put them together and give them and undercoat and they stay together just fine! But to answer your question, I paint them once fully assembled.

[Deek]

CoH is a better game in a lot of ways but it breaks away from the standard RTS form that I like and I'm just not interested in the setting at all.
I find the &quot;Retreat&quot; button alone to be breakthrough and brilliant. I have a hard time playing RTS games without it (read: all games other than CoH). =)

<div class="quote"><div class="quoting">Quoting: Asura;]
Hail to the machine/undead >;D[/QUOTE]
Hellz yeah. The Vampire Counts are the next revision. Can't wait. They will likely be my second WHFB army ... I'm a sucker for zombies, after all.

[Master_Bungle]

From just a few games of Warhammer 40k, I have to say its a little too range spammy for me. WHFB is supposedly more in line with what I'm used to (first two expansions of Mage Knight) where there is more tactical movement. 40K is literally move 6 inches, fire 48. Melee is decisive but likely not seen until the last round or two.
My mates and myself used to play 40k, then started WHFB because it was more tactical. In 40k we felt the army list one the game. Just stand back and shoot, little tactics. With WHFB you had to take into account flanking, rear attacks, and with less shooting, enemy movement was actually very vital, because getting charged in the flank for instance meant you were very likely to break.

[frogopus]

My mates and myself used to play 40k, then started WHFB because it was more tactical. In 40k we felt the army list one the game. Just stand back and shoot, little tactics. With WHFB you had to take into account flanking, rear attacks, and with less shooting, enemy movement was actually very vital, because getting charged in the flank for instance meant you were very likely to break.
Yah, if the group of geeks around me had invested years and money into WHFB instead of 40k, I probably would have picked up an army.

[dontleave]

Just throwing this out there... I'll have your CoH if you don't want it.

[frogopus]

get a job, hippie

[Eddy_of_the_dead]

get a job, hippie
who is a hippie?

does anny1 know when soulstorm comes out in europe?

[Asura]

who is a hippie?does anny1 know when soulstorm comes out in europe?

In couple months?

[Deek]

The thing I really dislike about WHFB is how static units are. In 40k, each individual model can move within their squad, changing the shape of the squad - for instance, to surround a single enemy. In WHFB, all you can do is clip a a single model and attempt to bring the max frontage to bear while the rest of the unit twiddles it's thumbs. Kinda silly in practice. Also, I hate how archers work. Only the first row in a unit can fire (two, if on elevated ground). No volley fire is bogus.

Besides that, I really enjoy the tactical movement of WHFB beyond simply finding the best cover and firing lanes.

I've been wanting to try out the LotR battle game for some time. Much of the goodness of WHFB, with many 40k-ish benefits (individual model movement, volley fire, etc). The only thing that stops me is the inherent uberness of the character models (Aragorn, Gandalf, etc). They basically win and lose games. I don't care for that, even if it holds true to the novels in some respect. Why bother fielding vanilla infantry and cavalry if King Theoden can win it by himself? Warhammer went through that phase already (Herohammer), closely followed by massively overpowered magic (Magihammer). It's only now becoming something close to balanced.

[Eddy_of_the_dead]

Deek i understand
but i like 40k because you can shape you squads in lines clusters or annything.... its more fun me that way :D

[Deek]

I hear ya. Like I said, I'd love to get into 40k, if only because of the dynamic squad movement options, but my geek friends are elitist a-holes who won't consider anything other than WHFB.

[Eddy_of_the_dead]

well youve got tournaments you can go there alone see if you like
(the nerdiness is the same but i think WHFB is worse than 40k)

[Puscifer]

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[Kenny]

Uh.. needless posts for the lose.

I'm headed over to a friends' today to play. I've got Tyranids, he has Space Marines. Have a couple of missions in mind, we'll see how it turns out.

[Gforcemember45]

hey guys, im deciding on which army i should buy. I have narrrowed down to two choices, The Imperial Guard because of their vechile strength, or The necrons because they're kick ass.

[Kenny]

Necrons if you like power. IG if you like the sheer amount of choices you can make. I'd go with Necrons personally.

[Deek]

Though I don't play 40k, I read White Dwarf mag on a regular basis, so I have a pretty good grasp of the army selection (I love reading battle reports). I like the Guard. So much versatility and tons of character. Though they tend to be a little horde-ish if you don't go vehicle heavy, so be ready to paint a shit load of camo green in that case. I'd definitely go with the Guard, if only to shriek, &quot;Game over man, game over!&quot; when facing off against Tyranid players. Plus their vehicles rock (Basilisk ftw).

[Kenny]

Yeah, they do definitely have two downsides. They are extremely easy to kill (com paired to other teams), and they are vehicle dependent. With being vehicle dependent, if the other team has a good amount of AV units, you are in trouble.

[Asura]

ANd in Apocalypse you can use Baneblade on IG.
And ofcourse make IG army with only tanks on it >;D
but i prefer necrons.

[asu]

Everyone has his favorites. IMO its pointless to ask otheres about a decision YOU have to make.

[Eddy_of_the_dead]

imps whit batle sisters is tha choice cos there everything a imp amry lags
(and 1500 points are made reaaaal easy whit them BS)

[Shrubberyjsc]

Quoting: Shrubberyjsc
I love the Brits.

=D

As in, the Bretonnians? From Warhammer?



From CoH:OF

;)

(I miss the tank traps and snipers, tho.)

[Kenny]

Everyone has his favorites. IMO its pointless to ask otheres about a decision YOU have to make.


It's not wrong to ask one's opinion about things before you make a decision of your own.

[Nemesis_vs_Leon]

I don't play Warhammer 40k :P

I do, however, play the millions of card games I keep inventing $D

I made a huge rpg battle game with quests and everything using only playing cards, and it even has tons of strategies and things to do...

I was making a left 4 dead card game, but it's only 75% done, and I made a complete Gears of War card game.

Also...
at least 5 card games, including 2 complete rpgs using only playing cards.
probably 10 cardgames using the dvorak system (google it, the &quot;nomic&quot; card game).
about 5-8 different board games.
100+ board/card/paper games I can't remember right now
(paper games are like tic tac toe or the draw-picture-from-line game)

*.* so many things I made, and yet no one to play with

Oh yeah, and this massive rpg card game(one of the dvorak ones) that is like bioshock but on a space station, and it has more random deaths.

I can't really share info on warhammer, but if you want to play some cool card games *cough*left 4 dead card game*cough* I could tell you anything about those games I made.

[Eddy_of_the_dead]

and produce them like pokemon'ish cards?

[Illgofirst]

I used to play with my army of toy soldiers. But that was when i was like...10

Is this similair? :P

[Kenny]

Not.. really. I mean, yes they are figures.. beyond that.. no.

[Eddy_of_the_dead]

Is this similair? :P
no
its not
your no fun

[Deek]

Is this similair? :P
Somewhat. You do have an army of &quot;toy soldiers&quot; (my wife calls my minis &quot;toys&quot;, I stopped correcting her years ago), but you must model and paint them yourself. Then there are strict army selection and gameplay rules. It's like ... chess on a grand scale, but you get to pick how many rooks and pawns you field, and maneuvering is wide open. Not to mention the cinematic component. Seeing two fully painted 2500 point fully arrayed for battle is pretty inspiring.

[frogopus]

Hey now, back in middle school a buddy and I had an entire rule set for army men written out and was played with a measuring tape and dice just like any other table top game. It took over his basement :P

[GamerKing]

Strange, me and my friend did that once except with these medieval soldier things, it was kinda fun then I lost the rules.