Work In Progress

[Puscifer]

working on a map, model, skin etc etc?

chat and exchange ideas in this thread:)

[Puscifer]

i am aiming to make a Vineyard with a large estate, always up for colaberting.

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa172/Puscifer0101/cs_vineyard0002.jpg

[Dead Fish]

Going to add some screenshots to this post soon. I've got to figure out some minor stuff first...

edit: Ok, this is a small map, I'm making to test my skills on, since it's the first time I'm mapping something larger as well. (Started two months ago.)

http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/5780/gravedigger0000ny3.th.jpg (http://img264.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gravedigger0000ny3.jpg)

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/4823/gravedigger0003ie3.th.jpg (http://img256.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gravedigger0003ie3.jpg)
(with flashlight on)

http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/5764/gravedigger0002sm6.th.jpg (http://img110.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gravedigger0002sm6.jpg)

I know, it's dark, but that's just a small part in the beginning.

[Reptile]

Puscifer, that maps looks quite nice!

I suck at making maps. Anyone got a good basic tutorial?

[Puscifer]

http://interlopers.net/

great site for hammer tutorials:)

[Skeetles]

Your models are out of place, the lighting is bad, your trees are coming out of concrete? NO MERCY

If you want help I'm usually in l4d Steam chat.

[darksora2323]

yea skeet is pretty good

[Puscifer]

Your models are out of place, the lighting is bad, your trees are coming out of concrete? NO MERCY

If you want help I'm usually in l4d Steam chat.

the models arnt out of place a t all, ok the trees look a bit dodgy but im gonna sort that (put concrete/soil round the base)

and whats wrong with the lighting?

[Puscifer]

Going to add some screenshots to this post soon. I've got to figure out some minor stuff first...

looking good m8;)

[Skeetles]

Well ok master, obviously no room for improvement with your work in progress, go ahead and do what you do.

[arsis]

first attempt at any type of mapping:

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a338/dancingchrist/hl22008-01-1223-10-00-69.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a338/dancingchrist/hl22008-01-1223-09-43-93.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a338/dancingchrist/hl22008-01-1223-07-16-58.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a338/dancingchrist/hl22008-01-1223-07-06-92.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a338/dancingchrist/hl22008-01-1223-06-40-48.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a338/dancingchrist/hl22008-01-1223-06-30-69.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a338/dancingchrist/hl22008-01-1223-06-13-60.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a338/dancingchrist/hl22008-01-1223-06-03-72.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a338/dancingchrist/hl22008-01-1223-05-46-85.jpg

note: WORK IN PROGRESS!

[Mustacio]

working on a map, model, skin etc etc?

ur map sucks

[dontleave]

ur map sucks

[Hero_Kenshi]

everytime i try to make map, i make it too detailed so you lagg up, and i never finish them, i used to have like 30ish half finished maps =P

[Dead Fish]

Ok, here is another round of screenshots:

Those are two rooms I added to the basement vault the player will emerge from. Next part will be an open area during the evening. :)

#1
http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/6001/gravediggerv20002ar9.th.jpg (http://img118.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gravediggerv20002ar9.jpg)

http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/958/gravediggerv20003wz9.th.jpg (http://img242.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gravediggerv20003wz9.jpg)

#2
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/6276/gravediggerv20000jt0.th.jpg (http://img208.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gravediggerv20000jt0.jpg)

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/8008/gravediggerv20001ml3.th.jpg (http://img139.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gravediggerv20001ml3.jpg)

arsis, nice map for a first attempt! Looks like your map is still fullbright though, it will look much better with light added. ;) Oh and the textures are looking a bit out of place in pic #6 and #7, but that doesn't matter, if you made it just for learning Hammer. :)

[Puscifer]

ur map sucks

and your a nob, and there was no need to say that... everyone of your comments makes me lol m8 pshh

ok noob out of the way, ill show u how im doing now:)

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa172/Puscifer0101/cs_vineyard0000-1.jpg
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa172/Puscifer0101/cs_vineyard0007.jpg
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa172/Puscifer0101/cs_vineyard0002-2.jpg

need to sort out the ligh_env but its coming along;)

[Atari]

Some people need to learn how to give constructive criticism rather than trying to be fking ecool. And if you have to be a dick, post some pics of your map first.

Anyway...

Good to see a few here are starting maps, maybe one day we'll get a new section in the forums for mapping? Would help pass the time I suppose.

More pics peeps! :p

[Atari]

Just tried setting up Hammer again, can't see CS:S only HL2/TF2/Portal....

Yelp!

[Bucky]

hey,

Im not the greatest mapper but i mapped for Brain Bread Source for a few months. One thing is, (you dont have to), try just making the layout of the map first, then add your models in. When laying out, just pick a one texture for the floor , one for the walls, and what ever else you need. Then when you got your layout done, when you compile, you dont have to site and wait to see what the layout is going to look like. Anyways, keep going, add some arches and other things. Go into some nicely made coutner strike source maps and just look to see what they did. Like having the side-walk off the ground by like a unit.

This adds a feeling to your road and such. Keep looking at interlopers man. Learn how to add doors, and move onto displacments, and onto the vertex tool.

[Dead Fish]

Just tried setting up Hammer again, can't see CS:S only HL2/TF2/Portal....

You need to add "-engine ep1" to the SDK's launch options to acces your pre OB games. Alternativley you can also download the SDK's new beta (http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Source_SDK_Release_Notes) that has a drop list to switch between engine versions.

[Atari]

Ta :)

What game is best to map for until L4D come out? Source v1 or v2?

[Puscifer]

ur map sucks

show me yours plz?

...

NOOB

[Dead Fish]

One thing is, (you dont have to), try just making the layout of the map first, then add your models in.

I read that many people work that way and only use the orange/grey developer textures as placeholder in the beginning. I tried to do it, but then quickly reverted to adding a whole room, working on it to my satisfaction, then adding another. :P

But I'm sure it would be more efficient to create the map as a whole before texturing or putting models in it! I should try doing that in the future...

What game is best to map for until L4D come out? Source v1 or v2?

I started with Episode 2, because the map is going to be dark and EP2 has those nice dynamic shadows coming from your flashlight. ^^ Also, L4D will have all of the Source engine's latest features as well.

[josko]

Damn, Puscifer, I can't believe when dontleave and mustacio says your maps sucks, Because They don't! You have made them so goddamn nice! Keep up the good work, This will be a map I want to play, And I can see myself, Playing it over and over again, Just because it was so god damn good :) So as I said, Keep up the good work, You got the force!

[No Shelter]

Mind the idiots in this thread puscifer. Nice map, best of luck to you on it.

[Puscifer]

thanks a lot guys, ive actually started from scratch as a file got corupt but meh, it'll just be better this time round:)

[DJTricky]

ive actually started from scratch as a file got corupt
Damn that sucks, good luck with the new version!
Ignore those idiots they couldn't do any better than that. I sure as hell can't and believe me I tried :/

[Skeetles]

Well I can do better, and he sucks.

[DJTricky]

Well I can do better, and he sucks.
Grats, noone cares.

[Skeetles]

If no one cared, why would you respond?

[dontleave]

I care, and agree.

[Puscifer]

Well I can do better, and he sucks.


lmao, your almost as big a PRICK as dontleave..

[Skeetles]

And you are a stubborn asshole!

[Puscifer]

And you are a stubborn asshole!


what makes u think im stubborn?

[Skeetles]

You didn't want my help to fix your shit map, instead you told me how all the bad things were intentional.

Glad you know that you are an asshole though.

[Puscifer]

You didn't want my help to fix your shit map, instead you told me how all the bad things were intentional.

Glad you know that you are an asshole though.

this is my first map, and obviously i do need help from time to time. But from some jumped up little shit head of a noob?..

no thanks:)

[arsis]

i guess my map is entirely neutral

no ones said one word about it

im assuming thats a good thing?

[DJTricky]

If no one cared, why would you respond?
Someone has to break the news ;)

Sorry arsis. Well it looks good, it's just a little bare, it should have a bit more stuff in it, but its cool.

[dontleave]

this is my first map, and obviously i do need help from time to time. But from some jumped up little shit head of a noob?..

no thanks:)

It's funny because you called him a noob for being more knowledgable than you. And still insisted on being stubborn.

[Vikings_Domo]

How do you create a map for L4D if anyone dont mind telling

[OBLITROX]

How old are you Puscifer?

[dontleave]

How do you create a map for L4D if anyone dont mind telling

You install the mod tools via STEAM. (Source SDK and Hammer)

[Skeetles]

Use the HL2 Ep2 game.

Puscifer posted pictures of what looks like a guy in his 20-30s, which means he is either lying or mentally retarded.

Puscifer is gonna be one of those people who flood fpsbanana with maps nobody wants to play or even look at, and he refuses to get better.

Maybe he is just an all around failure.

[dontleave]

Puscifer posted pictures of what looks like a guy in his 20-30s, which means he is either lying or mentally retarded.

Puscifer is gonna be one of those people who flood fpsbanana with maps nobody wants to play or even look at, and he refuses to get better.

I'd have to agree. Especially the first part.

[Puscifer]

i am 23 years old, and mentaly sound:)

I'd have to agree. Especially the first part.

not gonna even waste my energy with u...

Puscifer is gonna be one of those people who flood fpsbanana with maps nobody wants to play or even look at, and he refuses to get better.

Maybe he is just an all around failure.

not at all, im simply learning how to make maps m8..

pshh, i wouldnt even let my m8s play it if i didnt think it was any good...

and i have actually started over as i'm learning to optimize proply and focus on lay outs rather then props/details at the beggining:P

[Dead Fish]

i guess my map is entirely neutral

no ones said one word about it

im assuming thats a good thing?

I gave you some feedback for your map! :-/ Never mind though, it seems like you will have to start your own thread, once your map is a little bit more advanced, since this one seems kind of... derailed. :-T

[dontleave]

not gonna even waste my energy with u...

What was that then?

[Puscifer]

Hopefully i will be decent enough at mapping by the time L4D comes out, to make a nice map for it:)

[Hona]

This was something I've been working on for Zombie Master: http://www.zombiemaster.org/smf/index.php?topic=90 8.0 (http://www.zombiemaster.org/smf/index.php?topic=908.0)

Sadly I formatted my computer and all was gone, I may try to revive the project but for Left 4 Dead.

Edit: You can read that I've used some ideas from Left 4 Dead, the whole checkpoint thingy :)

[Dead Fish]

This was something I've been working on for Zombie Master:

Nice Layout! I was wondering if any ZM mappers would transition to Left 4 Dead once it's out. Seems fitting. :)

[Puscifer]

Nice Layout! I was wondering if any ZM mappers would transition to Left 4 Dead once it's out. Seems fitting. :)


L4D is gonna be so good to map for, the maps are all populated by the director:)

[Hona]

L4D is gonna be so good to map for, the maps are all populated by the director:)
Yeah, but I also hope that the level designer can setup the director with different settings.

[TheDark12]

Your models are out of place, the lighting is bad, your trees are coming out of concrete? NO MERCY
Skeetles, I know you were trying to offer constructive criticism, but you probably should've mentioned it. If you re-read that, it's pretty plain that it's easy to take hostile if you're sensitive to criticism. Also, not mentioning that it's meant to be constructive kinda makes you look like a troll. :-\

Pucifer, if Skeetles knows his stuff you should take some of his criticism on board then, too. It's looking better than what I can do, but he has a point with some of his comments. (I mean that in a totally constructively criticising way.)

Good work otherwise, I look forward to new pictures and the finished product.

[Nemesis_vs_Leon]

Skeetles seems like he'd be good at mapping, but this thread is getting sort of intense.

It would be hilarious and stupid to play zm_lila_panic in left 4 dead once. That would be a great mini-level addon to some random campaign. Mostly just to laugh at.

I do UT3 mapping. I haven't done much lately, but I'll make something and show it to you.

[arsis]

I gave you some feedback for your map! :-/ Never mind though, it seems like you will have to start your own thread, once your map is a little bit more advanced, since this one seems kind of... derailed. :-T
ah i didnt see that until now. thanks. yeh im just learning how to use the architecture aspect of hammer as of now. i will move onto lighting and props later.

but seriously thanks. and thanks also for not being a dick about it.

[Puscifer]

Skeetles, I know you were trying to offer constructive criticism, but you probably should've mentioned it. If you re-read that, it's pretty plain that it's easy to take hostile if you're sensitive to criticism. Also, not mentioning that it's meant to be constructive kinda makes you look like a troll. :-\

Pucifer, if Skeetles knows his stuff you should take some of his criticism on board then, too. It's looking better than what I can do, but he has a point with some of his comments. (I mean that in a totally constructively criticising way.)

Good work otherwise, I look forward to new pictures and the finished product.

eaxactly if skeetles maybe worded it better i would of taken it on board, it just seemed like more of a dig then critisism to me.

[Skeetles]

Maybe if you guys weren't complete fucking idiots to being with you would pick up on the obvious sarcasm. Who would seriously say NO MERCY! when criticizing a map?

[TheDark12]

Maybe if you guys weren't complete fucking idiots to being with you would pick up on the obvious sarcasm. Who would seriously say NO MERCY! when criticizing a map?
I saw it and totally agree with you. But to some people who are more sensitive I can see how he missed it.

I've said all I need to. Both sides have a point, now chillax and make friends, this arguement is past it's expiry and is aging like milk.