New PC, Suggestions?

[Godshelp]

Building a new PC from scratch next week/2 weeks.

Currently have a PC thought out, but need suggestions.
Specs are:
Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128510

Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129100

GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102948

RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231416

CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103851 (Can't afford intel, otherwise would have done the Intel.)

HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148840

PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139010

Suggestions?

[one of them]

Your case is oversized for the hardware you're putting in it. I suggest getting the Antec 900 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129021) instead. It's the same case just smaller. I use it and it's perfect. It's also much less money.

You could use the money you saved on that to invest a little bit more into that video card, except with a better cooler. Link (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127545)

Your CPU is good for the price although you could get roughly the same figure with a different motherboard and a Core i5 2500k (which scores a higher benchmark (http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+Phenom+II+X6+1055T)).

[Godshelp]

Changed the case to that now indeed. Currently at $950. Trying to get it below 900. Might just use some extra money to get this indeed. Looks like I have a PC planned out though.

Still want more suggestions if possible!

[Boojangels]

With the money you save from that case One posted, you could probably score an i5-2500k. Although, you'd need a new motherboard. The i5-2500k can out preform that CPU in vidya games and overclock easily so your rig can play more games in the future. It's all about your budget I suppose. I haven't been keeping up with GPU technology, so I can't really help you there.

[Godshelp]

Yeah, tried fitting the i5 2500k in, just couldn't with my current budget. The CPU should be fine for now, where I can upgrade later on. And that GPU was among the top GPUs for gaming, so definitely getting that.

[Stuffinator]

AMD is fine, they are cheap and have amazing performance. When you get the core, I advice you to disable the turbo core overclocking performance-boost technology in the bios. Until games have better multi-threading capability you'll only lose performance with it.

[Godshelp]

Yeah, I have always disabled Turbo Boosting. Noticeable difference when in game as well.

I'd like to get Intel, but it is just way too expensive at this time. I still trust AMD from my last PC anyways, so. It's fine for now.

Looks like I have my PC planned out, going to have to throw in some money from YouTube as well I guess, but oh well. New PC is new PC. :>

[one of them]

You should build a Mini-ITX.
http://imgur.com/a/mp5AR#5

I kind of want to.

[Godshelp]

Always found the Mini-ITX interesting, but I think I'll keep it to a regular Gaming Mid-Tower and Standard ATX. :P

[one of them]

You've probably already made up your mind but if you're looking for an even lower price:

Some people think the Antec 900 is too expensive, so if you want to lower your price even farther these are perfectly capable of staying cool. Some would say more capable than the Antec.

Cooler Master Haf 912 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233&Tpk=HAF%20912) - $59
Cooler Master Gladiator 600 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119206&Tpk=Gladiator%20 600) - $59
Lian Li K58 W (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112238&Tpk=Lian%20Li%20K58%20W) $79
IN WIN BUC (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811108395) - $84


This is a good guide to follow (http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af150/The_FalconO6/CurrentLogicalPCBuyingGuide/Guide.png) as well.

[Godshelp]

Might go with the HAF 912, will help fit in some upgrades in other ways with money saved.

Not totally set in stone, so still open to suggestions.

EDIT: Seems I might have a PC made up now.

COOLER MASTER HAF 912 RC-912-KKN1 Black SECC/ ABS Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
$59.99


Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
$124.99


GIGABYTE GA-970A-UD3 AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
$109.99


GIGABYTE GV-N560UD-1G GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
$209.99


Antec EarthWatts EA-650 GREEN 650W ATX12V v2.3 SLI Ready CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply
$74.99


G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBRL
$46.99


AMD Phenom II X4 960T Zosma 3.0GHz Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor HD96ZTWFGRBOX
$124.99


Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium

Total came to $751, but then had to add Windows 7, so now at $961 including Shipping.

Will order this later this week or next week. 3 Day shipping. Huzzah!

Since I am not ordering yet, keep throwing suggestions in! :P

[one of them]

You could pay $0 for Windows 7 and reduce that back to $751.

[Godshelp]

I have no way of obtaining it, otherwise I would reduce it.

[one of them]

obviously you're not spending your money, huehue.

[Godshelp]

wat, Using some of my Google Earnings + money from part time job. So... :/

[one of them]

...and you're not willing to obtain Win7 for free? I mean, it's quite simple. All you need is a computer and a DVD burner.

[Boojangels]

You mean getting Windows 7 for free through promotions such as being part of technical classes that provides software to its students without cost.

[one of them]

But of course.

[nerVe]

May I recommend moar RAM.

[Stuffinator]

May I recommend moar RAM.
He wants to play games, not cure cancer.

[Godshelp]

...and you're not willing to obtain Win7 for free? I mean, it's quite simple. All you need is a computer and a DVD burner.

I am on a netbook with no DVD/R or DVD Burner. So I must pay for Win7.

And 8GB should do fine, I had 6GB before, never used all of it while gaming. :/

[Platypus]

I am on a netbook with no DVD/R or DVD Burner. So I must pay for Win7.

And 8GB should do fine, I had 6GB before, never used all of it while gaming. :/

You will be fine with 6gb, 8 is just the frosting on the delicious PC gaming cake. Anything more than 8gb would be overkill unless you were doing video production.

[nerVe]

Need 24 GB of RAM!

[Godshelp]

And on the subject of RAM, I actually changed it from the G.SKILL Sniper series to the G.SKILL Ripjaws.

Better reviews about the Ripjaws, so I might as well go with them.

[one of them]

I am on a netbook with no DVD/R or DVD Burner. So I must pay for Win7.

And 8GB should do fine, I had 6GB before, never used all of it while gaming. :/

You could buy a DVD burner for less than what you pay for Win7.

[Godshelp]

Or I could ask a friend to borrow a copy of Win7. :P

[one of them]

I wanted to see if I could build one for a lower price with roughly the same (or higher) specs. This is what I got:

Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233) - $59.99
Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-970A-UD3 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128519) - $109.99
CPU: AMD Phenom X4 960T (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103995) - $124.99
PSU: Antec EarthWatts EA-650 650w (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371044) - $74.99
RAM: Patriot Gamer 2 8GB (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220558) - $39.99
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200RPM (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148697) - $139.99 (also comes with a DVD/R Burner)
GPU: Radeon HD 6870 1GB (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161389) - $169.99

Subtotal: $719.93

I don't feel like inspecting your build again but if you want to compare those parts to yours feel free. You may find that you can interchange some, or even use the entire build. Idk, I was bored and figured I would share those results.

[Godshelp]

Yeah, the GTX 560 Ti 1GB bumped up the price, but it has 2 large fans, and it's better than Radeon HD 6870 1GB.

My budget was $900. I like my PC build. Now... the waiting game for when I can order and the shipping.

I do appreciate you trying to get the cheapest build for me for a nice Modern Day gaming rig. Thanks! :P

[one of them]

Well you've definitely got an optimal build. Have you ever put a computer together before? I can offer a few tips so you don't mess anything up accidentally.

[Godshelp]

I've upgraded PCs, not actually built from scratch. I'd appreciate some tips!

[one of them]

Obviously put the motherboard in first. Make sure the plastic/metal risers (little pegs on the case where you put the screws in to hold the motherboard down) are aligned correctly within your case for an ATX motherboard. The motherboard can seem a bit scary to install because it's pretty flimsy and seemingly fragile. You might want to watch a "How-To" video on it, like this one (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4Mx1n7qRTE). Note that you don't NEED that power bracelet thing, just make sure you're not full of static when you're handling it.

I usually put the CPU on second. Make sure you apply the thermal compound before putting the heatsink on. Applying thermal compound is pretty easy, just don't overdo it with a shitload of it. A little dab in the middle will allow the heatsink to spread it out once it's pressed down. Thermal compound should come with your CPU.

Put the disc tray and HDD in at this point, making sure you secure it in the screw holes. Installing these isn't hard at all.

I think you've done a PSU before, right? If so that's great, you shouldn't be confused by where everything goes. Just note that it REALLY helps if you manage your cables a little bit. I did not do this when I first put together my computer in my new case, and it caused complications ever since (hooking up new hardware was hell because I had to unplug several things so I could get around the cords). Just yesterday I took apart my computer and rearranged the cables. I didn't do a super professional job, but most cooling cases have little holes behind the tray which you can put cables through.

http://i.imgur.com/tNtgs.jpg

That's mine (like I said not SUPER professional) and it's pretty clean as far as power cables go. See the holes I weave them through in the back of my tray? Do that. It works wonders.

After the power supply you just have to put in the video card and any extra stuff you got and then power it all. One note about the fans: Try not to stack more than one on the same 4-pin connector, it gets a little crazy. You may be able to get away with stacking 2 but I don't think you're supposed to. Oh I almost forgot, your case should have some cords sticking out toward the top that go to your Power and Reset button, as well as USB or SATA extensions. Make sure you plug these into the right place. Look at your motherboard manual and it should tell you which prongs the power one goes on and which one the reset one does. This messed with my head my first time.

That's all I can think of. You probably already knew most of that, but whatever.

[BlackCat]

Needs more fannnnnns! Lol

[one of them]

inorite? It has four. Top exhaust fan, rear exhaust fan, and two front intake fans. The only bad part about that is finding a way to keep the fan cords from hitting the actual fans.

[BlackCat]

Our pcs each have over 10 fans, Lanboy cases lol. You need!

Edit: 10 fans not including CPU, GPU, etc.

Also, nice cable management. Looks clean!

[one of them]

Holy christ, 10 fans? Are those necessary you think? I'm sure my desktop would be fine at a LAN. Then again, the hardware isn't impressive to say the least.

[BlackCat]

The cases are capable of more.. Lol. Killatoy actually has 12 iirc.

[Godshelp]

Thanks for the tips!
I have put in a PSU many times, so that part was easy to remember. I'll keep in mind the Cable Management. I've installed almost every type of hardware (as upgrades) so the main worry I had was the Motherboard install and installing the case fans correctly.

So again, thanks for the tips!

[BlackCat]

The fans actually do make a difference, it isn't a huge difference though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=649kvK9bN6o

It doesn't really do much for me but it makes more of a difference for Killatoy when he's doing video editing and rendering and such.

[one of them]

All I can say about the motherboard is it's pretty intimidating (still intimidates me) but it's not as hard as it looks. Just line those holes up correctly and screw it in.

[Godshelp]

So, just another quick question. When installing the motherboard, should I just go in the kitchen (Very small, however the ONLY area with no carpet) to keep static charge out if myself, or would carpet be fine (No socks)?

When I heard the whole "Make sure you don't have static charge" I think that's the part that intimidates me the most, don't wanna short it out mid-install, lol.

[one of them]

Definitely stay off the carpet while installing the ENTIRE computer. I'm not kidding about static. One little static discharge can fry the entire motherboard. Same thing applies to other devices, specifically ones with open circuits (like most GPUs).

[Godshelp]

Got it, I'll find some room in the kitchen with the Wood floor. Will install in there, once everything is hooked in and I have the side panels on, I'll go plug it in and test it where it'll be sitting for quite a long time!

[BlackCat]

Definitely stay off the carpet while installing the ENTIRE computer. I'm not kidding about static. One little static discharge can fry the entire motherboard. Same thing applies to other devices, specifically ones with open circuits (like most GPUs).

I can back up the validity of how important this is. I learned the hard way... with GTX 460. =/

[Stuffinator]

I don't see any problems with static electricity. Yes of course it can ruin you hardware component in an instant, but you can disharge yourself easily but simply touching anything metal'ish, like the pipes of a heater or something like that.

We even had carpet in the hardware room at the IT-company I worked for for 3 years, where we built and repaired computers and servers. We never destroyed a component or had any problems with static electricity.

[BlackCat]

The carpet itself can give the component a static charge. Industrial carpet is different than what is in most homes.

[one of them]

Walking on carpet isn't a problem when you have a table or something, but Godshelp is talking about working on the floor (I think). This would certainly cause some static to build up. Plus like BlackCat said, industrial carpet is much different than normal home carpet. Home carpet is usually a bit more lengthy and has much more fluff.

[Boojangels]

You aren't scared to build your computer on carpet flooring, are you?

[Deadly]

Dion't work on carpet

[BlackCat]

Thinking about it, I'm pretty sure it was one of our cats that caused the card to fry. The rtard jumped in the case when Zac opened it. Don't work around cats... Specially ours!

[Stuffinator]

The carpet itself can give the component a static charge.
Well I don't lay the components on the carpet, that's for sure, but the case. And as long as I'm grounded to the case there is no way for either me or the case to charge static electricity.

[one of them]

Thinking about it, I'm pretty sure it was one of our cats that caused the card to fry. The rtard jumped in the case when Zac opened it. Don't work around cats... Specially ours!

If one of my cats did that I'd [REDACTED FOR VIOLENT AND REPULSIVE IMAGERY] all over his [OH MY GOD CENSORED, WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU] with a god damn [THAT IS HORRIBLE].

[Paradox Viper]

Definitely stay off the carpet while installing the ENTIRE computer. I'm not kidding about static. One little static discharge can fry the entire motherboard. Same thing applies to other devices, specifically ones with open circuits (like most GPUs).
I don't normally post in Hardware since I usually can't give much advice about building PCs, but I did once read this sage advice that appears to be related to static electricity:

da problem bro is you needs to bi-pass yer nanker valve inside yer switches on da CPU. Dem switches get stuck and u gotta git a torque spinner and loosin dem up.

Den TITEN DA GFX. dis is acheeved by rockin da box back in forth wit a magnet tongs. open DOS and install more randum axis memry. Slide doors shut and FINISHED STEP TO.

STEP 3. pull crank on hard drive to makes it much harder. Dis speeds up rite time and slows waste time. MUCH IMPORTANT STEP, BRO. kk so we got dat cranked, then u press power switch sooper kwik so build up statik electro and give CPU and axis mem overpower boost.

enjoi game!

[BlackCat]

Great advice Viper!

[Paradox Viper]

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[Godshelp]

Walking on carpet isn't a problem when you have a table or something, but Godshelp is talking about working on the floor (I think). This would certainly cause some static to build up. Plus like BlackCat said, industrial carpet is much different than normal home carpet. Home carpet is usually a bit more lengthy and has much more fluff.

Oh dear god no, I meant if I stood on carpet with my PC up on a large desk (Where I game) and installing the components.

Even if I work in the kitchen, I can work on the bar area. I'd never put it on the floor due to my cats... cats everywhere.

[one of them]

You'd still need to be careful.

[Godshelp]

Yeah, like I said, I'll just build it while on tiled floor up on a bar table.

[BlackCat]

Cats are assholes!

[one of them]

Especially black ones!

[REDSHARK]

Cats are assholes!

Especially black ones!

http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/dis-gon-b-gud.gif

[one of them]

http://meta.filesmelt.com/downloader.php?file=Cain3.gif

[BlackCat]

Oh god... Fkn creepy!

I concur that black cats are assholes... Ours is a little thieving jerk! Lol


Also.. I admit to being a bitch sometimes. Nothing to see here... Sorry RedShark.

[REDSHARK]

No problem, my cat attacks my ankles or sits on my keyboard and slaps my face.

[Deadly]

At least that's just one cat. Three cats doing that all at once is.... unpleasant.

[Paradox Viper]

No problem, my cat attacks my ankles or sits on my keyboard and slaps my face.
I have a cat at home that likes to slap me awake. He's also a big fan of head-butting things. He's a simple creature. He doesn't mess with my computer, though. Or at least, he hasn't been given the chance.

[one of them]

Mine used to piss in my bathtub.
It mysteriously drowned last year.

[Stuffinator]

He's also a big fan of head-butting things.
Hey cool, the cat of our neighbor does the same. If you place a water bottle on the street, the cat will walk up to it, headbut it and get fucking frightened when the bottle tips over.

Edit: just realized we are in the hardware section lol

[Godshelp]

My thread has turned into a cat thread. Amazing.

And my cat pees in our bathtub as well, Jake. :/

[one of them]

my thread has turned into a cat thread. Amazing.

And my cat pees in our bathtub as well, jake. :/

does he do it twenty minutes before you have to take a shower?

[Boojangels]

I can do it

I can do it nine times

[Godshelp]

does he do it twenty minutes before you have to take a shower?

It's a she, she pees in it, poops in it and has periods in it almost every 30 minutes, so...
Yes. :/