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squerl
07-21-2008, 04:34 PM
http://www.maximumpc.com/article/%5Bprimary-term%5 D/e3_2008_left4dead_interview_new_graphics_weapons _and_steam_achievement_details (http://www.maximumpc.com/article/%5Bprimary-term%5D/e3_2008_left4dead_interview_new_graphics_weapons_a nd_steam_achievement_details)
Probably one of the best interviews we've seen, read it.
TheStrife
07-21-2008, 04:46 PM
"I can guarantee you there's going to be an achievement of starting and escaping a scenario without getting hit by an infected."
Oh man...
xXxTboNe34xXx
07-21-2008, 04:59 PM
That was a Very Info Filling Preview Thanks for posting !
It's "My Little Pony" not "My Pretty Pony" get it right retards...
Good interview but his really doesn't help my position does it, (my position being incredibly patiently waiting for November 4.)
tripp36
07-21-2008, 05:17 PM
"MB: The feedback system we originally had was this really deep system of awards and merits and all this other stuff. There was a lot of data there but through play testing we found that people just didn't care about that data. It was kind of information overload, and more importantly, it was kind of obscuring the salient things we really wanted people to notice."
i love it when it tells you a bunch of stuff...like u did this and he did that.. u where the worst shot of the game blah blah blah...i think that stuff's fun to look at... i know he says theres still stuff like that there.. but i like alot lol
Bucky
07-21-2008, 05:21 PM
That was great preview.
frogopus
07-21-2008, 05:24 PM
i love it when it tells you a bunch of stuff...like u did this and he did that.. u where the worst shot of the game blah blah blah...i think that stuff's fun to look at... i know he says theres still stuff like that there.. but i like alot lol
I'll definitely miss the incredible depth of the old merit/demerit system.
Jesus123
07-21-2008, 05:41 PM
"A lot of our game design assumptions changed. Before this time there were basically 12 of us building this game and we were leveraging as much as we realistically could using props that we had built for Counter-Strike."
OMG 12 People only? I feel like a retard for getting mad at them for not releasing it early, before they joined Valve. Now im for sure that this game will be a EPIC WIN!
dontleave
07-21-2008, 06:33 PM
Good interview.
how many zombies do you see, how many zombies are running at you,
He alludes to the infamous ninja zombies. Only at the china town campaign.
Z2ato
07-21-2008, 06:44 PM
Impossible sounds fun, from what Mike Booth said its legit.
BaldingSteve
07-21-2008, 06:45 PM
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e329/petros42/Borat-VeryNice.jpg (http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e329/petros42/Borat-VeryNice.jpg)
xXxTboNe34xXx
07-21-2008, 06:47 PM
Impossible sounds fun, from what Mike Booth said its legit.
haha yeah it does sound Pritty Fun but ithink it would be more Fun with MOre Zombies not How much dmg u recive and such
dontleave
07-21-2008, 06:49 PM
Wow, this is the best interview I've read for the game. Everything they said gave me even higher hopes for the game.
Impossible difficulty level! Story! Modding! Even the talk about end-game stats etc.
Hopefully they release a media batch soon, so I can get the awful image of the WIP Survivors out of my head.
Jesus123
07-21-2008, 06:51 PM
I would name a map LD_UPHILL STRUGGLE
Where you must fight up a insane mountain like hill and with only pistols and once you reach the top you get only shotguns and 1 minigun and prepare for the HARDEST CRESCENDO EVENT EVER and like 200 zombies climbing the mountain to you plus 2 Tanks!
BaldingSteve
07-21-2008, 06:53 PM
LD_UPHILL STRUGGLE
i can only hope that was /sarcasm.
but anyways, /facepalm
Waterboy2go
07-21-2008, 06:53 PM
I would name a map LD_UPHILL STRUGGLE
Where you must fight up a insane mountain like hill and with only pistols and once you reach the top you get only shotguns and 1 minigun and prepare for the HARDEST CRESCENDO EVENT EVER and like 200 zombies climbing the mountain to you plus 2 Tanks!
Lol that ZM map is so frustrating.
xXxTboNe34xXx
07-21-2008, 06:54 PM
Where you must fight up a insane mountain like hill and with only pistols and once you reach the top you get only shotguns and 1 minigun and prepare for the HARDEST CRESCENDO EVENT EVER and like 200 zombies climbing the mountain to you plus 2 Tanks!
HAHA omg dude THat was be insane !!!!!
Z2ato
07-21-2008, 06:56 PM
Im still deciding what id rather have. More zombies on higher difficulties or more damage that you receive
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xXxTboNe34xXx
07-21-2008, 06:57 PM
I think more zombies Deffinelty xD like More Dmg is cool But idk JUst not as cool as having a shitload more zombies coming at u
dontleave
07-21-2008, 06:58 PM
Both.
Jesus123
07-21-2008, 06:59 PM
More zombies anyday :D
Z2ato
07-21-2008, 07:00 PM
wow its like one sided lol
xXxTboNe34xXx
07-21-2008, 07:06 PM
Lol See More Zombies r better then just Reciving More Dmg xDD recing more dmg is a challenge BUT More Sombies is a Funner Challenge xD
Z2ato
07-21-2008, 07:11 PM
I think it would be harder to because: the boss infected + lots of zombies = confusion and utter chaos.
Keptron
07-21-2008, 07:12 PM
"I can guarantee you there's going to be an achievement of starting and escaping a scenario without getting hit by an infected."
Holy Shit!
Puscifer
07-21-2008, 07:13 PM
oh yes, impossible baby!
that was a brilliant read:D
xXxTboNe34xXx
07-21-2008, 07:13 PM
boss infected + lots of zombies = confusion and utter chaos.
Hahaha Exactly !! . i can picture it now fighitng off Hundreds of zombies on you then u turn around to a Tank JUst Ramping twords you ..Plus If other boss infected r there as well ur figintg off hundreds of them then c the tank THEN out of nowear ur teammate just gets pounsed by a Hunter God dame Amazing !
WarTornAlc
07-21-2008, 07:14 PM
Booth has a stylish hair-cut as always, Newell has some compition.
Z2ato
07-21-2008, 07:15 PM
Ya, you'd have to stick to eachother like broke back cowboys to survive that.
xXxTboNe34xXx
07-21-2008, 07:16 PM
Ya, you'd have to stick to eachother like broke back cowboys to survive that.
HAHAHAHA
Keptron
07-21-2008, 07:23 PM
There's also Expert difficulty which is for pretty hardcore folks.
MB: How much damage they deal to you fundamentally. Some of them do change, like the tank. The tank gets tougher. He can absorb more damage. But at the same time he can deal more damage. Like on Impossible he hits you once and you know you're done.
Woot? I hope it have a lot of Witches
Jesus123
07-21-2008, 07:23 PM
Achievement to never shoot your gun would be harder.....
Keptron
07-21-2008, 07:25 PM
How the difficulty Impossible will be? Tank kill us with one hit, so hunter kill us in 20s? :3
Z2ato
07-21-2008, 07:25 PM
Ya, come to think of it, its all a big porno on impossible. When a hunter jumps on your friend. A big threesome takes place and your jamming the butt of your gun against the hunter who is physically raping the victim. Don't get me started with the smoker and his 50 foot sucka..... :)
xXxTboNe34xXx
07-21-2008, 07:25 PM
Achievement to never shoot your gun would be harder.....
Haha The only way to be able to beat that 1 would be on Easy Difficulty ;D
Z2ato
07-21-2008, 07:29 PM
The Boomer on Impossible should be an actual bomb like before and fuck your shit up.
Keptron
07-21-2008, 07:30 PM
Ya, come to think of it, its all a big porno on impossible. When a hunter jumps on your friend. A big threesome takes place and your jamming the butt of your gun against the hunter who is physically raping the victim. Don't get me started with the smoker and his 50 foot sucka..... :)
Hmmm nasty. D:>
tripp36
07-21-2008, 07:49 PM
I'll definitely miss the incredible depth of the old merit/demerit system.
yeah i know...it just puts the sprinkles on the ice cream sunday...
xXxTboNe34xXx
07-21-2008, 08:11 PM
Yes i will sadly miss the opld merit/demarit system as well =[ .Just becuase most of those play tetsters ignored it Doesnt meen every 1 will =[ I thought that idea was a Really cool add-on to L4D they said its still a big Part the 1 thig i hope they didnt take out was how many INfected u have killed
bumbousdude25
07-21-2008, 08:16 PM
"I can guarantee you there's going to be an achievement of starting and escaping a scenario without getting hit by an infected."
Whoa... That's gonna be fun. :D
I'll definitely miss the incredible depth of the old merit/demerit system.
Yeah... :(
Im still deciding what id rather have. More zombies on higher difficulties or more damage that you receive
That reminds me of Resident Evil: Outbreak. As you raised the difficulty, not only could you get hurt faster when attacked, but zombies were faster, more alert, and there were a considerably higher amount of them on harder difficulties. I loved playing that game on Very Hard (the hardest difficulty) just to see how long I could survive. To me, that was the only way to play the game.
I'm sure L4D will be much more intense and have many, many more zombies than RE:O did though, for sure.
For the poll, I'd say both, like dl said. Infected do more damage, and there's more of 'em. :D
xXxTboNe34xXx
07-21-2008, 08:20 PM
Yeah I Like Both But More Zombies Deffinelty Just the thought Of it .. Running down a street then Turn a corner Only To find Hundreds apon hundreds of infected Just sitting there.. OHH then ur spotted ... they all rush u.. Dude id prably shit my pants ( not literaly) and start screaming from excitement ( that is literal xD )
tripp36
07-21-2008, 08:21 PM
ok for real has NE one AT ne of these game testing asked...or saw..or ANYTHING about the infected side we havent even heard a sqeek of news
WHATS GOING ON? lol
are they hiding it for fun?
Z2ato
07-21-2008, 08:23 PM
That reminds me of Resident Evil: Outbreak
Ya man i was a fan of that game myself. The challenge was intense and thats how i liked the game so much. amazingly, not a single person voted for the first option yet which is what valve and steam are doing.
xXxTboNe34xXx
07-21-2008, 08:23 PM
ok for real has NE one AT ne of these game testing asked...or saw..or ANYTHING about the infected side we havent even heard a sqeek of news
WHATS GOING ON? lol
are they hiding it for fun?
Ahh yes my Dear Boy there r videos of the Infected ..Here is 1
http://youtube.com/watch?v=HxcNjf0R_CU
tripp36
07-21-2008, 08:26 PM
Ahh yes my Dear Boy there r videos of the Infected ..Here is 1
-_-
you have ne idea how old that is...?.
its likes my dead grandpa old.....
thanks tho..i guess......lol
xXxTboNe34xXx
07-21-2008, 08:31 PM
LOL yeah that video is Pritty Old But thats all there is =[ .. Theres another Video PoD Cast that shows at the end of the video a little peek at the INfected side but thats way old to.. We herd alot about it at 1st Then nothing =[
bumbousdude25
07-21-2008, 08:32 PM
There's also Expert difficulty which is for pretty hardcore folks.
And then we have Impossible difficulty because it never fails.
Oh God. :P
xXxTboNe34xXx
07-21-2008, 08:38 PM
Lol They must Have a hard time makuingg Difficulties Like MIke Booth said.. We try to make games harder and haerder but ppl come in and say dude this is to EZ xD something like that . Impossible Difficulty is a new 1 tho !.. IT even Exceeds GUitar HEro's Expert lol .. its Impossible
Z2ato
07-21-2008, 08:40 PM
Tom Cruz will love it!!!!!
xXxTboNe34xXx
07-21-2008, 08:41 PM
Tom Cruz will love it!!!!!
LOL!!!
Z2ato
07-21-2008, 08:44 PM
seriously, i can only do a few of guitar hero on hard. On rock band i could do expert for the bass on lots of songs though :)
xXxTboNe34xXx
07-21-2008, 08:46 PM
Lol i Am Almost done with Guitar Hero 3 on expert xDD im on the last String ;D
tripp36
07-21-2008, 08:48 PM
can some one tell me why Louis can jump 7ft in the air?(a real answer would be nice)
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b22/tripp36/eede.jpg
Z2ato
07-21-2008, 08:51 PM
can you do dragon force???Lol i Am Almost done with Guitar Hero 3 on expert xDD im on the last String ;D
haha that was totally random. The reason why is because he is black.
can some one tell me why Louis can jump 7ft in the air?(a real answer would be nice)
xXxTboNe34xXx
07-21-2008, 08:52 PM
ah HAHAHAHAHAHA.. Perhaps He was on that Cart and jumped off But it looks like he is to far away... And i dont c ne Tanks around that could have smashed him .....GLITCH XDD
tripp36
07-21-2008, 08:52 PM
The reason why is because he is black.
(a real answer would be nice)
tripp36
07-21-2008, 08:53 PM
realy if you watch the vid nothing happens he just jumps 7ft in the fricking air lol
Z2ato
07-21-2008, 08:55 PM
Sorry man, thats the only thing i could think of why. but seriously... GLITCH XDD
xXxTboNe34xXx
07-21-2008, 08:55 PM
Whats the Link to the Video ?
Z2ato
07-21-2008, 08:58 PM
Maybe, if you take pain pills you jump higher...
xXxTboNe34xXx
07-21-2008, 08:59 PM
LOLOLOLOOL!O!L!O!L!O!L!O!!!!!!!!
tripp36
07-21-2008, 09:03 PM
LOLOLOLOOL!O!L!O!L!O!L!O!!!!!!!!
lol what happen?
tripp36
07-21-2008, 09:04 PM
URL (http://www.jeuxvideo.tv/video/left-4-dead.html) for the vid
xXxTboNe34xXx
07-21-2008, 09:08 PM
lol what happen?
ahh hahaha nothing really just what Z2ato said idk just made me crak up xDD i guess the way i read it and such idk lol i have a very high since of humar xD and thx for the URL xD
Z2ato
07-21-2008, 09:16 PM
ya, AND IM HIGH! :)
xXxTboNe34xXx
07-21-2008, 09:17 PM
xD me High O_o.. naa i dont smoke " The Devils Lettus" ( no what movie thats from xD ) and HOW DARE U TAKE ME A JIBBRISH SPEAKING WEBSITE !
FRAGious
07-21-2008, 09:20 PM
This interview is fantastic. I got all pumped up and wanted to play SO BAD! Mike is my hero.
HOW DARE U TAKE ME A JIBBRISH SPEAKING WEBSITE !
The irony
xXxTboNe34xXx
07-21-2008, 09:21 PM
HOW DARE U TAKE ME A JIBBRISH SPEAKING WEBSITE !
The irony
LOL indeed ! xD
Z2ato
07-21-2008, 09:22 PM
The Devils Lettus
LOL good one! It is actually the safest drug though.
xXxTboNe34xXx
07-21-2008, 09:23 PM
Bahhh Drugs are Drugs to me all badd xDD...i Dont Drink Nor Smoke xD.. im a goody goody two shoes OR " Straight Edge" ;D
Z2ato
07-21-2008, 09:30 PM
FOR REAL? How old are you? I didn't start till 18 lol and oh how i wished i did it earlier. but a lot of my friends are the same goody way. I'm cool with it though.
xXxTboNe34xXx
07-21-2008, 09:32 PM
xDD im 16 ATM i dont really plan on starting ;D BUT me and a friend made an oth to Try it in College LOL
Z2ato
07-21-2008, 09:35 PM
lolmade an oth
Hey thats good, on my first time drinking my friends poured the alcohal out and replaced it with soda behind my back and i was the drunk idiot alone while they were drinking soda i was drinking 151.
xXxTboNe34xXx
07-21-2008, 09:37 PM
LOL .. Did they Record it xDD i would have recoreded it
Z2ato
07-21-2008, 09:38 PM
nah, but they did the second time. Except i wasn't the only one.
xXxTboNe34xXx
07-21-2008, 09:39 PM
haha. Well atleast that time u wernt the lone shark ! xD
FRAGious
07-21-2008, 09:41 PM
The Private Message button is right under the nicknames and looks like a letter. You press the letter under the name yoy want to write to. Try it out.
xXxTboNe34xXx
07-21-2008, 09:42 PM
Lol whats it matter to you ne ways O_o ?
Z2ato
07-21-2008, 09:45 PM
I think he needs someone to talk to.
FRAGious
07-21-2008, 09:46 PM
Lol whats it matter to you ne ways O_o ?
This is a forum. You are spamming a specific topic with personal chatter. Have you ever been using a forum before?[
xXxTboNe34xXx
07-21-2008, 09:46 PM
haha Prabably The Private Message button is right under the nicknames and looks like a letter. You press the letter under the name yoy want to write to. Try it out.
Dwaaaaa is some 1 jealous ? =[
FRAGious
07-21-2008, 09:48 PM
Dwaaaaa is some 1 jealous ? =[
Yes. That is it. I'm jealous.
xXxTboNe34xXx
07-21-2008, 09:49 PM
Yes. That is it. I'm jealous
Its ok, ill be your friend =]
Z2ato
07-21-2008, 09:52 PM
Just dont take candy from him
xXxTboNe34xXx
07-21-2008, 09:53 PM
Just dont take candy from him
LOL!
Puscifer
07-21-2008, 09:54 PM
:S
Left 4 Dead Chat rooms ---------> way:D
Z2ato
07-21-2008, 09:56 PM
:D way<-----------peace loving nigger kitty
(don't worry dude im not racist, im actually black)
xXxTboNe34xXx
07-21-2008, 09:57 PM
Left 4 Dead Chat rooms ---------> way:D
xD that would be pritty cool to have a 411 chat room here xDD instead of every 1 just talking on the Forums
Z2ato
07-21-2008, 10:00 PM
Dude lets make a topic about it !!! :O !! :O ! !
xXxTboNe34xXx
07-21-2008, 10:05 PM
Haha we should !! Prably get alot of atten call;ed to it
Steve Cloud
07-22-2008, 12:56 AM
Fuck yeah, navigation mesh!
Dead Fish
07-22-2008, 02:31 AM
xD that would be pritty cool to have a 411 chat room here xDD instead of every 1 just talking on the Forums
Would you please post less? You two have already cluttered two threads with your incoherent babble. It's called spam.
This is what our Steam Community Group (http://steamcommunity.com/groups/l4d) is for. Keep the Off Topic in the chat please.
Keptron
07-22-2008, 07:43 AM
can some one tell me why Louis can jump 7ft in the air?(a real answer would be nice)
THIS IS MADNESS! I noticed it too, I was like "Fucking Werebunny!"
Also, anyone saw this video D:>? --> http://youtube.com/watch?v=qITRUDcO2iY&feature=rel ated (http://youtube.com/watch?v=qITRUDcO2iY&feature=related) Because I just saw today :3
engagequadlaser
07-22-2008, 08:09 AM
THIS IS MADNESS! I noticed it too, I was like "Fucking Werebunny!"
Also, anyone saw this video D:>? --> http://youtube.com/watch?v=qITRUDcO2iY&feature=rel (http://youtube.com/watch?v=qITRUDcO2iY&feature=rel) ated Because I just saw today :3
Added: September 06, 2007
Keptron
07-22-2008, 08:21 AM
Quoting: Youtube
Added: September 06, 2007
Damn ... O.o And I have been looking this game since the first day, well whatever >_>
OBLITROX
07-22-2008, 08:41 AM
you have ne idea how old that is...?.
its likes my dead grandpa old.....
thanks tho..i guess......lol
LOL yeah that video is Pritty Old But thats all there is =[ .. Theres another Video PoD Cast that shows at the end of the video a little peek at the INfected side but thats way old to.. We herd alot about it at 1st Then nothing =[
http://youtube.com/watch?v=qITRUDcO2iY&feature=rel ated (http://youtube.com/watch?v=qITRUDcO2iY&feature=related)
dontleave
07-22-2008, 08:42 AM
This thread, along with some others, has been completely ass raped.
OBLITROX
07-22-2008, 09:55 AM
This thread, along with some others, has been completely ass raped.
lol
Sifer2
07-22-2008, 01:47 PM
Woot for 5 difficulty settings! That was the biggest concern I had but now I feel satisfied. I guess these vids where the survivors can stand there an take a beating for a full minute are on Easy. Impossible mode should be fun more like a real zombie movie where they get on you an you die lol.
Also I almost wonder if someone had heard what I said about 4 difficulty settings leading to arguments between Survivors/Infected on who has the advantage. If there are 5 im betting Versus mode is set to Hard by default so neither side has too much advantage.
MrR0b0t0
07-22-2008, 01:58 PM
Or I bet its set to a difficulty based on what the players skill levels are.
DeMoNsXWiThInnX
07-22-2008, 02:00 PM
Mabey the team as a whole will get to choose what Difficulty they want. Like Just becuase there a rank 1 doesnt nessissarly mean they cant play on hard or expert, or even impossible.
wioiw
07-22-2008, 02:49 PM
I read the interview 3 times, is it safe to say that you do respawn in the last safe room if you all die in campain mode, but that you do NOT respawn at all in versus mode?
i mean MB said "The way that we've been doing the Versus mode is that the four zombies win by eating the four survivors..."
Eating?
TheStrife
07-22-2008, 03:10 PM
Bahhh Drugs are Drugs to me all badd xDD...i Dont Drink Nor Smoke xD.. im a goody goody two shoes OR " Straight Edge" ;D
FOR REAL? How old are you? I didn't start till 18 lol and oh how i wished i did it earlier. but a lot of my friends are the same goody way. I'm cool with it though.
Jesus Christ you two are annoying. If it's even two people. Seems like the same person with the same atrocious spelling replying to himself about how "OMG RANDUM xDD" he is.
Keptron
07-22-2008, 03:10 PM
Eating?
Yes, that's why Boomer is fat and Tank is stronger. They eat human for their healthy. D:>
This thread, along with some others, has been completely ass raped.
This thread now is a porn star!
Dead Fish
07-22-2008, 11:46 PM
This thread now is a porn star!
You cannot rape a pornstar. It's like trying to drown a fish...
lerlerson
07-24-2008, 02:00 AM
This new change about the merit/demerit system is good. You know why? Because, with the old demerit system, you could be faced with situations where somebody was going to get a demerit no matter what. For example, a Witch being in a doorway. You would get a demerit for waking the Witch, but you wouldn't be able to do anything without waking the Witch.
On top of that, if you accidentally hit a teammate because THEY went out in front of you, that's not your fault- that's theres, but if there's just a little discrepancy in the AI Director's thoughts, you're the one getting the demerits.
Dead Fish
07-24-2008, 03:42 AM
This new change about the merit/demerit system is good. You know why? Because, with the old demerit system, you could be faced with situations where somebody was going to get a demerit no matter what. For example, a Witch being in a doorway. You would get a demerit for waking the Witch, but you wouldn't be able to do anything without waking the Witch.
On top of that, if you accidentally hit a teammate because THEY went out in front of you, that's not your fault- that's theres, but if there's just a little discrepancy in the AI Director's thoughts, you're the one getting the demerits.
Personally, I think there will always be a way to avoid the witch. There should be at least, because she is not just a random, tough enemy thrown in by the Director. That's what the Tank is for. Without the added possibility of leaving her alone all together, the witch would be kinda pointless.
Anyways, I think the old system made a lot of sense because of the instant feedback. You knew who did what and who did what wrong, right the moment it happened. There was even a demerit called "Reckless" that would punish people running into friendly fire themselves.
lerlerson
07-24-2008, 10:28 AM
Personally, I think there will always be a way to avoid the witch. There should be at least, because she is not just a random, tough enemy thrown in by the Director. That's what the Tank is for. Without the added possibility of leaving her alone all together, the witch would be kinda pointless.
Go watch the Developer Walkthrough 1 on Gametrailers. There's a Witch at the end that is impossible to avoid.
Anyways, I think the old system made a lot of sense because of the instant feedback. You knew who did what and who did what wrong, right the moment it happened. There was even a demerit called "Reckless" that would punish people running into friendly fire themselves.
Yeah, but a system like that is bound to be glitchy. The game would probably have a hard time telling if the person had run into the fire or not.
dontleave
07-24-2008, 10:31 AM
You cannot rape a pornstar. It's like trying to drown a fish...
HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHA
You heard it here first folks.
Dead Fish
07-24-2008, 10:43 AM
Go watch the Developer Walkthrough 1 on Gametrailers. There's a Witch at the end that is impossible to avoid.
Yes, I know the scene you are talking about, but don't you think that they could have succeded in sneaking past her slowly and with their flashlights out? Maybe one by one? Of course, the Infected Horde made that impossible in that situation.
You heard it here first folks.
lol
lerlerson
07-24-2008, 03:46 PM
Yes, I know the scene you are talking about, but don't you think that they could have succeded in sneaking past her slowly and with their flashlights out? Maybe one by one? Of course, the Infected Horde made that impossible in that situation.
Well, if I remember correctly, you couldn't walk within a three feet radius of her- don't quote me on that- but if that's not true, it would have been theoretically possible to pass her.
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