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frogopus
03-17-2007, 09:24 AM
In the US:
The product shipped TO stores on the 17th.
It was in boutique stores and on Steam on the 18th.
The mass merchant US stores had it on the 19th.

In the rest of the World:
The product was first available on Friday, Nov 21.

On Steam:
The game was available early the morning of the 18th (Eastern time zone).

Left 4 Dead has been available worldwide on Steam since November 18th.

Puscifer
03-17-2007, 09:41 AM
I cant wait, woot!

Tom
03-17-2007, 10:48 AM
Yeh same here!

Zelos Knight
03-17-2007, 01:07 PM
Only a couple of mouths away! To tell the truth its going by fast :P Btw i'm new whats up everyone?!

squerl
03-17-2007, 01:15 PM
Hey ZK welcome to the forums :D

Zelos Knight
03-17-2007, 11:27 PM
Thanks! Btw you guys thinkin about adding avatars? I feel naked without one lol.

squerl
03-18-2007, 04:02 AM
I'll have to look into it..

blehh
03-18-2007, 08:56 AM
dank.

Puscifer
03-18-2007, 09:18 AM
Welcome m8:)

03-19-2007, 03:01 PM
I hope they end up rethinking the release day for the 360 version, and release it earlier.
Oh and I dont know if this is correct or not, but I hear the 360 version comes out sometime in September. I've been hearing and reading that a lot so I just I'd let you guys know.

03-19-2007, 03:03 PM
And one thing also that i want to know, is if on the 360 you can play it split screen coop, and if you can do 4 way split screen coop with 3 other people on one console. If not I just hope you can play 2 player split screen coop on one console.

squerl
03-19-2007, 03:08 PM
Almost no details at all have been released on the X360 version besides that there is a 360 version.

The One
03-19-2007, 07:01 PM
THE END IS NEAR
THE DEAD WILL WALK THE EARTH............................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. ..........

blehh
03-20-2007, 03:14 PM
Well when I signed on AOL today... the stupid internet thing popped up, and strangely it had something about this game. Now I don't know if it's right but the site it had linked to said that BOTH Computer and Xbox will be released at the same time..... keepin my fingers crossed on that one :P

Oh and here's the link: http://www.gamedaily.com/left-4-dead/pc/game-previ ews/5866?articleID=41392 (http://www.gamedaily.com/left-4-dead/pc/game-previews/5866?articleID=41392)

squerl
03-20-2007, 03:26 PM
That's really interesting that it was shown on AOL today seeing how it won't be out for quite a bit.. The official word is that the X360 version won't be released until months after the PC version.

The One
03-20-2007, 06:12 PM
It is interesting, I saw the website and I searched for exactly 2hrs and found that the official date is still not confirmed, but will be released in the summer, both PC and 360.
I hope so i'm really wanting to get this game.It would be like Dawn Of The Dead.

Puscifer
03-21-2007, 01:12 AM
why would u want to play this on a 360? I'd buy a pc just for this game! it will be better imo.

blehh
03-21-2007, 03:20 AM
Yeah it WOULD be better on the PC but I still don't know if steam will decide to work... I keep getting messages after about 1 min into any game (CS 1.6, CS:S, CZ, HL2, HL) and then it boots me..... If this happens with L4D I will make zombies in the real world, and then shoot them.

Puscifer
03-21-2007, 05:28 AM
ahaha lol that sounds anoying, u tried re installing steam?

squerl
03-21-2007, 05:41 AM
Yeah is it a legal account? I'm sure there's a way to fix it..

Puscifer
03-21-2007, 07:51 AM
ive just re installed half life 1:) lol!

blehh
03-21-2007, 12:50 PM
Yes I uninstalled it and then bought a whole new copy and installed it and it still doesn't work!!! And yes it's a legal copy or else I wouldn't be pissed about it :P

Puscifer
03-21-2007, 01:30 PM
what does the message say before it kicks u?

The One
03-26-2007, 12:18 PM
WTF are you talking about, it would be just as good on the 360, depending on how much work they put in it, as on the PC. I would love to play split screen on the 360 with my sis man she love Zombie shooting games, actually shooting games period, just as much as me. But then you got the whole lagging thing on the PC too. That would suck, you dont get them for the console.

Puscifer
03-26-2007, 02:08 PM
if u get lag its just ur connection, as long as u got decent broadband its fine. i never get lag on css, so i doubt i will on L4D. thats just my opinion though man, i'm liking keyboard and mouse now more then a control pad:) lol

The One
03-26-2007, 02:43 PM
Yeah, I feel ya, some people like one thing others like another. I like playing on computer too with games, its just that most people get lag, and those with lag will lag the others playing the game. I personally like console because you can play with a friend when you cant be on the internet, either because its just not working one day or whatever. On the console you just call over a friend and there you go. But I just say that cause I get lag on my comp.

Stupoider
04-09-2007, 04:54 PM
Im with Puscifer. Im so annoyed with my mate whos like, the most annoying Xbox 360 Fanboy ever. He keeps saying that since hes got one hes ditched his PC, and whines on every day that 360 is better than a PC. Every day! I shouldnt stereotype that every Xbox Gamer is like this, and I dont. Some people are cool ^^

squerl
04-09-2007, 05:00 PM
Haha.. some but few. :P It's okay, you can brag to him you'll be playing Left 4 Dead way before he ever gets it!

Stupoider
04-09-2007, 05:04 PM
Yep! I will! When I get back from the school holidays. Im happy that the game is coming out after I finish up my SATs this year. I would hate it if it had come out before my SATs. Revision (AKA a future in education) or Left 4 Dead... the thought of it will make my head explode.

squerl
04-09-2007, 05:11 PM
Yeah, I've been thinking how I'm going to balance L4D playtime with work/school.. I need to schedule easy classes next semester!

maaatt
04-10-2007, 04:07 AM
I'm so excited and I just can't hide it no no
I know I know I know I know
I know I want you I want you

Stupoider
04-10-2007, 04:13 AM
did you hear that? He wants me!

maaatt
04-10-2007, 04:15 AM
*GULP* ermm ermmmz HELP!!!?!!?!??!111oneoneone

Stupoider
04-10-2007, 04:17 AM
Too late! Youve already expressed your love for me!

maaatt
04-10-2007, 04:21 AM
hmmm this is stupoider --> ,,/,(-.-) <3 =P

Stupoider
04-10-2007, 04:23 AM
I am t3h pwnzor.

maaatt
04-10-2007, 03:34 PM
whats Release Date: Q2 2007 what does that mean im with stupid <---

squerl
04-10-2007, 03:37 PM
Q2 means it'll be out when it's out :P

bigD
04-10-2007, 03:44 PM
Worst case scenario - If the game isn't out by June, we get Stupoider liquored up, put him in a prom dress, stuff him in a shopping cart, and roll him down a hill. There could be some fun to be had there ;-)

squerl
04-10-2007, 03:46 PM
Haha, I like your thinking.

frogopus
04-10-2007, 03:53 PM
Q2 means it'll be out when it's out :P
Yeah, I think I may have to update this sticky to reflect this I'm afraid :(
2007 ftw

bigD
04-10-2007, 04:03 PM
I guess Mike and co. didn't hint whether they were almost done then to you guys eh? After I read you two were flown in to try the game, I checked my mail on the valve forum and Mike responded to something I had sent him quite awhile back. I hoped that since he was entertaining you folks and responding to PMs, that things may be winding down.

squerl
04-11-2007, 01:54 AM
Nope, they really didn't give us any hints on progress or anything. From what we played, though, the gameplay is all there.

Stupoider
04-11-2007, 04:18 AM
I like hills. And trolleys.

squerl
04-11-2007, 06:10 AM
Hills and trolleys?

bigD
04-11-2007, 06:21 AM
Hills and trolleys?
Stupoider's saying he's game for the downhill my good man :D

Nope, they really didn't give us any hints on progress or anything. From what we played, though, the gameplay is all there.

Well that's good news. I'm really surprised they didn't limit your play time or make you sign a few forms. IMO it seems this thing is well on its way to retail.

Stupoider
04-11-2007, 07:06 AM
Ok, we'll sort out a date after I get my parents permission, to get drunk, wear clothing of the opposite sex and to dominate hills in a trolley. xD

dontleave
04-11-2007, 03:08 PM
I've actually never been this excited for a game since HL2 itself... I WANT IT SOOO BAD!!!

In the mean time, I'll have to pretend my neighbours are zombies and experiment on how to kill them.

squerl
04-11-2007, 03:26 PM
Hey hey now, I don't think they'd appreciate that.

Stupoider
04-11-2007, 03:33 PM
Unless they found it sexually pleasing.

The One
04-11-2007, 03:34 PM
L4D Man WHY DO THEY MAKE US WAIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!LOL

Stupoider
04-11-2007, 04:06 PM
Because they are making it so perfect it will be like a perfectly cut diamond... perfect...

KashMunni
04-11-2007, 04:07 PM
wooooot!! that isn't too far away at all! man o man i can't wait when i get L4D i'm never gonna play another game for like 999 years

Quotidius
04-12-2007, 06:30 AM
Unless they found it sexually pleasing.

Hard to appreciate necrophilia when you're not around, eh? >:P

Stupoider
04-12-2007, 09:33 AM
Haha xD

dontleave
04-12-2007, 04:33 PM
PC>>>> Every console every created.

By the time consoles are better than PC's, they ARE PC's.

Stupoider
04-12-2007, 05:20 PM
Yep, too true. by playing PCs your already ahead of console players, -nods-

The One
04-12-2007, 07:17 PM
I play PC sometimes, but My &quot;ZONE&quot; is the consoles. I think consoles are much better than PCs, it'll take to long to explain but I have my reasons.
Actually i just think that we all say one is better than the other cause we play one thing so much and rarely play the other.
I'm getting L4D for the Pc cause I just wouldnt be able to wait for the 360 version, but when that comes out I'm going to get it. I bet it will be just as good as the PC version

kingslayer
04-13-2007, 04:21 AM
finaly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

kingslayer
04-13-2007, 04:22 AM
yea you are right man :D

frogopus
04-13-2007, 05:19 AM
I bet it will be just as good as the PC version

Depends on the person, but not having the tactile feel and accuracy of the mouse just doesnt feel right with me. I have high hopes for the Wii though and want to see some nice shooters for that. Nothing so far looks like it has done things right (shooterwise) but I'm hoping Metroid will work well.

I think I play a healthy (or unhealthy, whatever) mix of PC and console. Given the choice, however, I usually pick the PC version just for the mod community and the ability to watch TV at the same time :P

Stupoider
04-13-2007, 05:40 AM
I have high hopes for the Wii though and want to see some nice shooters for that.

Same here. I didnt like Red Steel... mainly because the crosshair felt more like an arcade game. A very complicated, hard to aim arcade game.

Quotidius
04-13-2007, 06:16 AM
To further catalyze this already bubbling cauldron, what would you think of interplay between the different versions? That is, what would you think of actually teaming up with (or annihilate, if that's more to your taste 8) players using other systems besides the PC? Consider this for a while.
Would you rather team up with a player using a PC than one with a Xbox360 because of their limited mobility/accuracy, vice versa, or would you embrace both?
Would you reject the allegedly immature 360 community?

Stupoider
04-13-2007, 06:20 AM
Annihilate. Definitely. Just to prove to my friend that PCs are better. He's been going on about how he thinks 360 is teh pwnzor... ill make him eat his words... -evil laugh-

bigD
04-13-2007, 06:29 AM
I
To further catalyze this already bubbling cauldron, what would you think of interplay between the different versions?

I think it'd be a bad move. Both have the capability of ruining the others' experience. If someone has an edge with the controls, the others can get massacred (infected). If someone is sucking from lack of control refinement, the others get burned (survivors). If the game is as good as I hope it is, I'll probably just get my hands on both versions though.

Stupoider
04-13-2007, 06:33 AM
Microsoft are releasing Live for Vista and 360 soon anyways, so theyll be able to do it. I dont want to though... you have to pay monthly...

frogopus
04-13-2007, 07:27 AM
There doesn't need to be a one way or the other with this. I'd like to see a server option that lets you decide if it will be console only, pc only, or both.

The One
04-13-2007, 11:04 AM
If you will be able to play Pc and 360 multi together, I'm pretty sure that 360 and PC will pretty much be the same, besides I find 360 easier to play than the PC. Srry but thats how I see it, oh and to Quotidius, when the game comes out me and you to settle this PC and Console battle lol.

Stupoider
04-13-2007, 11:14 AM
oh and to Quotidius, when the game comes out me and you to settle this PC and Console battle lol.

If your planning on using a controller...

Quotidius
04-13-2007, 11:15 AM
Hey, I never said anything bad about the 360!
I did say:

Would you reject the allegedly immature 360 community?

Notice the usage of the term allegedly.

Edit: on a personal note I'd love to be able to play with players using Live - one of my closest friends, a proud owner of a 360, is intrigued by the co-op aspects of L4D, and being able to play with him would be a huge plus for me.

engagequadlaser
04-13-2007, 11:27 AM
The only way a 360 user would be able to compete is if they added some assisted auto-aiming functionality. Then again, that's probably only the case for straight fps games, in a game such as this where one side is melee oriented, probably not that much of a deal.

The One
04-13-2007, 12:26 PM
Like I said the 360 will probably be as good as the PC and Quotidius I never said that you said anything bad about it, and the CONSOLE WILL BE JUST AS GOOD, and no console user wont need to use &quot;assisted auto-aiming&quot;. Its easier to aim on console than on PC but thats just me.

A DUCK
04-13-2007, 12:33 PM
I prefer that 360 servers and PC servers not be combined. :)

Nameless Joker
04-13-2007, 05:40 PM
I have 360 and PC. I think I'm definately gonna buy the PC version considering I don't have Xbox Live lol and the fact there will be more maps.

dontleave
04-13-2007, 05:48 PM
PC version = superior. So ima get the PC version.

I hate my 360, worst investment ever, atleast I didn't buy the Wii lol.

Christopher
04-13-2007, 05:57 PM
Sweet also Summer is over ??? Its Spring But i think thats for us in hawaii your proberly on the other side >.<>.<

A DUCK
04-13-2007, 06:01 PM
I hate my 360, worst investment ever

good game for 360 = Gears of War

sir monster
04-13-2007, 06:07 PM
atleast I didn't buy the Wii lol.

lol, youre missing out on some fun times. nothing like drinking with your pals and playing with your wii. and i paused when typing that because i realize the obvious joke, but its not my fault nintendo has the dumbest console names . its like they all write stupid shit on a peice of paper and put it into a hat.

A DUCK
04-13-2007, 06:21 PM
its like they all write stupid shit on a peice of paper and put it into a hat.


lmfao funniest thing ive heard all day

frogopus
04-13-2007, 07:56 PM
The Wii brought me back to Nintendo fanboism. Xbox was good choice for last gen but It'll be a while before I pick up a 360.

frogopus
04-13-2007, 07:57 PM
and please try to refrain from talking about your drunken wii fests with your buddies. Frankly, it's disgusting and we wouldn't want to have to ban you here :P

sir monster
04-13-2007, 09:12 PM
and please try to refrain from talking about your drunken wii fests with your buddies. Frankly, it's disgusting and we wouldn't want to have to ban you here :P
damn you nintendo! *shakes fist in the air*

Tinnesa
04-13-2007, 09:45 PM
lol WHO would have guessed this would become a console war thread.. hm..

squerl
04-14-2007, 04:01 AM
Haha Tinnesa, it's the best kind of thread :P

dontleave
04-14-2007, 08:58 AM
I've played the Wii, its terrible. Like, how do you charge a game like WarioWare for 60 bucks, its like you said they put a bunch of stupid ideas into hat and pull em out, instead they couldn't get anything consistent and released WarioWare lol.

Gears of War and Mass Effect are the only good Xbox 360 exclusives, plus im betting both will come out on PC someday.

Back to topic.. Summer or spring, last I heard summer, and if it's spring now sooo..

sir monster
04-14-2007, 09:06 AM
you played wario ware.. thats a game best played by children or drunks... im sure there will be plenty of games that are good, i liked red steel, zelda on the wii was awesome.... the new metroid game... no more heros, strikers, brawl,kart,galaxy... keep in mind the 360 had been around for a lot longer and therefore has a bigger library of games to point to. i think the 360 is great if you like graphics a lot. i have a pc for that tho. i got the nintendo for the gameplay. im not the kind of person to sit at a wierd looking bear (er xbox controller) and play on a console all day.. i reserve that time for my pc gameing. but when i do play a console its usually when i have friends over or im just wanting to run through super mario bros for the NES to waste some time... so truly the wii is the perfect console for me. its a party toy to me, not a hardcore gaming machine.
of course in the future id like to see the HD graphics coupled with the innovative controls.

Stupoider
04-14-2007, 10:56 AM
I told my mate that he would get bored of the Wii about a month after he got it (christmas). He said I was stupid and told me to bugger off... A month after christmas he got an Xbox 360, I asked him about his Wii and he said he was bored of it -.- Whats even more annoying is he now has a PS3!

But it is pretty boring now, as many of the games are mini-game based. My bro got one for christmas too.

dontleave
04-14-2007, 11:01 AM
I have a PS3 and 360 also... No Wii, I tried LoZ and RS

Stupoider
04-14-2007, 11:37 AM
PS3 is expensive :O And just as good as an Xbox 360.

squerl
04-14-2007, 12:55 PM
Not sure how much the Wii/PS3/X360 have to do with Left 4 Dead Release.. start a new thread if you want to talk about that :P

MrToodles
04-15-2007, 01:18 PM
I would hate intergrated severs with consoles and pc's. I dont know about some of you, but I am 3 times faster with a mouse and keybored, than with controle sticks and little buttons. The mouse can give you pin point accuracy, Alot of shooters on consoles do have auto-aim. Plus theres nothing better than the feel of the solid PC, I also think that people using controlers would be slower and might cause problems.


So simple, please dont intergrate players and severs, and if you do keep mark the severs so I know.

Just my opion

Kuzkula
04-15-2007, 02:53 PM
I enjoy the mouse alot more as well. It offers alot more accuracy, plus the voice commands/weapon switching would suck for consoles. I'd still play both, the console for the graphics support, the PC for functionality, but would choose PC over the console.

A DUCK
04-15-2007, 02:58 PM
talk about it in a new topic this is a left 4 dead release topic :O

dontleave
04-15-2007, 03:02 PM
On the Left 4 Dead section at steampowered.com it says theres a topic made says its going to be released at 6th of November and not 11th of July? Whats going on?

A DUCK
04-15-2007, 03:24 PM
november!?!?!?!?!??!?!?? is it in the sticky?

MarxismIsOk
04-15-2007, 03:34 PM
Its an employee from EB who saw this date in their computer. This could be for the 360 version, or it could be a completely arbitrary release date that EB is using for preordering, which they have done before. EB/Gamestop are often WRONG in their preemptive release dates, and they are the only source for this rumor.


Edit: After checking the EBgames webpage, this is NOT the public release date for the company....they dont have any record of release date or ability to preorder

squerl
04-15-2007, 04:11 PM
Yeah, please don't take that as any shred of truth. If they enter a game into their systems I'm sure they're forced to put some sort of release date (even if they have no idea). THE ONLY RELEASE DATE IS WHAT TURTLE ROCK SAYS IT IS.

shadowhunter
04-16-2007, 08:06 AM
SO...offical realise is summer 07 any month or just summer?

squerl
04-16-2007, 08:45 AM
No month in particular.

frogopus
04-16-2007, 08:52 AM
Yeah, I'm updating the sticky right now. I think I just dreaded doing it :(. The only recent official word has been 2007 for the PC. Summer is what we were originally hearing but you know how these things go.

sir monster
04-16-2007, 10:01 AM
from my experience EB/GameStop is ALWAYS wrong about release dates unless an official word has already been given by the developers. i would take this as nothing but a date to give people so they can pre order.

Puscifer
04-17-2007, 03:59 AM
blehh

hi just wonderd if u managed to fix ur steam cos i am having the same problem now, i kicked after like a min on css???

shadowhunter
04-17-2007, 05:27 AM
awsome THEY NEED TO REALISE IT NOW lol

djtool
04-20-2007, 11:11 AM
I'm curious to know if the 411 people felt it played like a finished product already.

in conjunction with that I'm curious if they (TRS) might artificially push the date to november for the christmas rush. I'm not a retail guy but I figure its easier to push something new during that time rather then something a few months old.

dontleave
04-20-2007, 02:35 PM
The game looks close to finish, they're getting people to test it (1up and 411), pushing it back would be odd, unless they're going to decide to like triple the content.

frogopus
04-20-2007, 07:17 PM
According to the guys at TRS, L4D has had a pretty strange development, in that it has been really playable and enjoyable from very early on. The game felt very complete, but we know that there is a lot of polishing and gameplay changes that may come through as we get close to the release. This doesn't mean that the games ready for release, just that it felt like it could be :P

djtool
04-21-2007, 04:27 AM
The game looks close to finish, they're getting people to test it (1up and 411), pushing it back would be odd, unless they're going to decide to like triple the content.

well sometimes publishers will come up with a release date and then later learn that another, more established/popular title will be coming out about the same time. So they will push release dates back in order to avoid stiff competition.

unknown_smiley
04-21-2007, 06:40 AM
this is my opinion so hard core xbox fans dont have a spaz. I think that the xbox version will be released later than the PC 1 because they arent going 2 keep PC gamers waiting just for ppl who 4 some reason want 2 use xbox instead of computer

Puscifer
04-21-2007, 07:04 AM
i agree but it is good that ppl who dont have the cash to spend on a decent pc to be able to play the game, even if they do use noob sticks...huhuuu

cush
04-21-2007, 07:36 AM
I have an Xbox 360, but there is no way in hell I would buy this type of game for the 360. I want to be able to play hundreds of custom made maps and be able to build my own. I highly doubt the 360 build will have that. You will probably have to pay for extra maps on the 360. Screw that! I want it free :) Also, the controls on the 360, I think, would make this game very difficult to play, nothing can beat the precision of the mouse :)

dontleave
04-21-2007, 07:49 AM
If thats the case then Left 4 Dead will be pushed all the way back to 2008. Uuuh... this game doesn't need a 2000$ computer to PLAY.

MrArgsnart
04-21-2007, 07:55 AM
does anyone know where the PC version comes out

dontleave
04-21-2007, 07:59 AM
Summer? Atleast thats what I last officially heard, not the guy from ebgames.

MrArgsnart
04-21-2007, 08:04 AM
is it actually going b on PC and XBOX 360... and can they play togethor online?

dontleave
04-21-2007, 08:09 AM
They're working on it, unless my mind decieves me and im mixing up info from different games... wait I think I am, that was for TF2, anyway if TF2 can do it why cant L4D?

cush
04-21-2007, 08:13 AM
So far the release dates are:

PC Summer 07
360 Winter 07

I believe they are trying to make it so Windows Vista users can use Live, but I think you are gonna have to pay for it. So if you want to play with 360 users on your PC you might need to pay just like the 360 users, if thats true you can count me out. But who knows maybe not, I think I would rather play with all PC users, I would trust them more to keep me safe.

dontleave
04-21-2007, 08:14 AM
I think I heard that to, they did a video explaining it on GT. Cut me out also, im too busy paying normal Xbox Live, WoW and LoTRO

Kanelgiffeln
04-21-2007, 08:15 AM
even if its free i wont play with Xbox users...they will die in seconds !

cush
04-21-2007, 08:16 AM
paying normal Xbox Live, WoW and LoTRO

How is LoTRO, I was thinking of testing it out. Seeing as atm I am not playing any MMORPGs.

dontleave
04-21-2007, 08:17 AM
Its decent, the only turn offs is are the design direction with armor, it preferred it to be more like the movies, they seemed more grim. Now its like cool to have technicolor cuirass'

sir monster
04-21-2007, 08:19 AM
PC>consoles
PC=(better controls, older community)
consoles= (crappy controls, 15 year olds.)

dontleave
04-21-2007, 08:25 AM
Hope this comes out soon, im watching LoTD on dailymotion... SEE I CANT WAIT..

Hey man im 15... but i do have consoles... so yeah you found me out.

cush
04-21-2007, 08:28 AM
Interesting about the LoTRO, I'll have to think about it for a little longer. Do you know if there is a free trial anywhere?

Puscifer
04-21-2007, 08:30 AM
PC>consoles
PC=(better controls, older community)
consoles= (crappy controls, 15 year olds.)

huhuuuuu!

dontleave
04-21-2007, 08:44 AM
Theres one right now on fileplanet lol... Dontl et the graphics hit you now, they lowered the texture quality so it fits under 5 gigs.

cush
04-21-2007, 08:46 AM
I figured the graphics wouldn't be phenomenal. I just recently played Vanguard, but there are way too many bugs in that game to enjoy it. The graphics are really nice, but you will occasionally go from 60 fps to 2 fps for no reason. And it always happens during a crucial fight.

dontleave
04-21-2007, 08:48 AM
TBH I'd wait around for Warhammer Age of Reckoning, that looks to have some sweet as graphics, and the armor is actually armor, it doesnt bend around like all MMO's so far. LoTRO is still as pretty, but only on highest of settings. I only really got it because its.... well LOTR...

cush
04-21-2007, 08:52 AM
LOL, yea the only reason why I was even considering getting LOTRO was because it was LOTR, but I still don't know if its worth it. I've been looking at Warhammer, but I don't know about that one either, I guess I'll just have to wait and see. The last online game that I actually enjoined playing was EVE: Online. Very fun game.

MrArgsnart
04-21-2007, 09:13 AM
oh man... i never thought about having 2 pay 2 play online:(

MrArgsnart
04-21-2007, 09:38 AM
Does Any one here play runescape?... IT SUCKS SO MUCH!!!!

cush
04-21-2007, 09:50 AM
Nope sorry never played Runescape. I'm hoping a good MMORPG comes out soon. I've been pretty disappointed with what is available atm.

LoLFace
04-21-2007, 09:56 AM
http://www.shacknews.com/images/image-o-matic.x?le ft4dead/070408_left4dead_15.jpg

squerl
04-21-2007, 04:16 PM
LoLFace: that's the Smoker if that's what you were wondering.

Pixelnator
04-23-2007, 03:26 AM
I still don't know what the hunter and the witch looks like.
(Altough i don't think anyone knows about the witch yet. Expect perhaps the lucky few *hint hint* that have played the beta at valves office)

frogopus
04-23-2007, 03:28 AM
Black hat, green face, warts... the works.

Pixelnator
04-23-2007, 03:29 AM
Black hat, green face, warts... the works.

You forgot the broomstick and the cat/owl ;)

frogopus
04-23-2007, 03:30 AM
Nah, they left those out for game balance

crimtonic
04-23-2007, 09:20 AM
I just read an article (fairly recent) that said somthing about a spring 2007 release. Which means, soon my friends, very soon.

frogopus
04-23-2007, 09:23 AM
There has been absolutely no official word beyond 2007. Magazines and shops are notorious for putting down dates just so they have one. We hope it is soon but spring would be very surprising. I can pretty much promise that it won't be until summer or later.

crimtonic
04-23-2007, 10:22 AM
Bastards D:< i'll kill PC gamer and all their staff then light fire to their printing presses.

Also i heard about the three other maps; another urban map ending at an airport, a dark rural map and a foggy corn field map.

(Don't worry i seriously won't hurt any one. I'm not a particularly violent individual.)

2Clueless
04-23-2007, 01:16 PM
I've heard late spring, early summer, late summer, back to school season, release with Episode 2, April 4 2011, etc, etc.

We'll just have to WAIT and see which one is true, hehe.

hooray for zombies
04-23-2007, 01:37 PM
hopefully not that last one

Shroom
04-23-2007, 02:27 PM
hopefully not that last one
agree :o

squerl
04-23-2007, 02:28 PM
Haha, /agree also.

Pixelnator
04-24-2007, 04:04 AM
I really hope they release it at the begining of summer holidays.

Why?
Because i don't want to spend too much time playing it when i should be studying :D

Sandman77
04-24-2007, 12:03 PM
If we look at how Ep1 was released... First tiny bits of information then some screenshots, then a teaser and a 2nd teaser. Then finally just before release more trailers...

Now look at L4D media hype so far, a teaser, some pics and some info even the official webpage lacks info... To even consider a soon release would mean a trailer must be released soon id reckon... Back in January a popular German magazine listed the game as 50% done if that is somewhat true and considering the lovely tests at valve Id say the game is more then 50% done but needs a lot of polishing before a release. Consider the fact how long Valve used to polish HL2 and EP1...

shadowstalker
04-25-2007, 02:47 AM
Q2 2007 so thats the 2nd quater of the year so were looking for a April/ May/ June release WOoo :D cant wait

Puscifer
04-25-2007, 05:44 AM
omfg thats sooner then i thought! could actualy be any day now! loool

frogopus
04-25-2007, 08:50 AM
Q2 has been the vague date for a while now. Just don't want people expecting anything until theres official word.

Deserteagle
04-25-2007, 02:53 PM
Does anyone happen to know the exact release date for L4D? O by the way im new to this stuff.

squerl
04-25-2007, 03:17 PM
Exact release date is 2007. That's all we know for sure. Places like IGN have said Summer 07.. which means June/July/August.

A DUCK
04-25-2007, 03:40 PM
i hope it comes out while im on summer vacation so i have time to play it

sir monster
04-25-2007, 08:13 PM
im thinking june/july.... mainly because of the footage we are seeing and the increase in media hints that they are raising hype for the release.

dontleave
04-26-2007, 05:47 AM
I hope it doesn't get pushed back. I REALLY want to play this game.

Deserteagle
04-26-2007, 05:49 AM
Im hopeing it comes out A.S.A.P. maybe the first few days of vacation would be nice. Other forums were saying it could be a matter of days and a t most a month. So im not sure who to rely on....

Deserteagle
04-26-2007, 05:52 AM
Does anyone know how many BOTS can play at once and if the BOTS can be part of the survivors?

frogopus
04-26-2007, 07:07 AM
AI can take the place of any player slot. If you wish, you may play with three other bot Survivors and 4 bot Infected.

The One
04-26-2007, 05:29 PM
All i know is that it has to come out real soon

caboos
05-01-2007, 02:42 PM
one can only hope

Deserteagle
05-01-2007, 03:22 PM
yes...... only hope

Sandman77
05-01-2007, 10:50 PM
Well shacknews preview said something about still need to implent graphics etc.

:/

Shrubberyjsc
05-03-2007, 06:34 PM
Oh, please come out soon!!! PLZ PLZ PLZ Mah spehlin gets wurs enteel Ay gehts ett!

Biohazard Tank
05-03-2007, 08:40 PM
I hope this game doesn't pull a S.T.A.L.K.E.R and take forever to come out :\

dontleave
05-03-2007, 08:44 PM
Why would it do that exactly?

Biohazard Tank
05-03-2007, 11:43 PM
I dont know they got no reason to because the game looks almost complete but thats just me im shore there are a few things to polish here and there but besides from that looks awesome.

Arkeneaver
05-04-2007, 04:19 AM
the game looked complete according to valve testers 2 years ago. But i think its good that its being perfected beyond perfection, itll make the gaming experience even more intense. But apparently the graphics isnt all that good, mind you, the source engine has been stretched to the max... its nearly time for a new engine. But as STALKER showed... its not all about graphical enhancements. If they get the atmospheric noise right... itll be incredibly intense.

ArsenaI
05-04-2007, 04:27 AM
Arkeneaver
the game looked complete according to valve testers 2 years ago

Eerrm, what ?

Shrubberyjsc
05-04-2007, 07:10 PM
^^^ yeah red flag went up for me too.

fatalslaughter
05-05-2007, 02:59 PM
Its going to get delayed...you know how Valve is.

BUT I WANT THIS GAME NOW!!!

KashMunni
05-05-2007, 04:05 PM
i dont really see why it could be pushed back it looks like they're pretty close to finishing this game i think it will come out this summer

ArsenaI
05-05-2007, 06:34 PM
Exactly my thoughts Kash.

There has been no indication that anything would cause a delay. If a delay is even possible, as there hasnt been an official date given (unless u see summer 2007 as official). Late Summer at the most i think.

sir monster
05-05-2007, 06:49 PM
frog n squerl should call up turtlerock and ask them since the last couple of previews have stated a winter release, this site is still saying summer and no one knows which is right.

fatalslaughter
05-05-2007, 09:29 PM
This source says its probably scheduled for &quot;christmas-ish&quot; >:(

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?i d=162953&site=pcg

caboos
05-05-2007, 09:54 PM
they've been working on the game for years why would they just now start releasing media updates. just to taunt us? nope this generally means there going for a summer release.

Kawn45
05-05-2007, 10:52 PM
When does it come out!! im freaking off :P, i want it now :D

cbre88x
05-06-2007, 09:17 AM
I don't know..and don't care yet..as I have yet to upgrade my computer..because I won't be buying a 360...yet. I'll just be happy playing Wii until it comes out.

Arkeneaver
05-06-2007, 09:18 AM
Arkeneaver
the game looked complete according to valve testers 2 years ago

Eerrm, what ?


lol dont act so surprised. This game has been in development ever since tutle rock was around. Approx 8 years. they've been working on it ever since then. This game was being developed to work on the source engine while the source engine was also being made (obviously). It has taken 8 years because A: the size and scale of the project was huge, and B: only turtle rock was originally working on it. Valve would have become more involved when the idea actually started to take shape. (again... very obvious)

When they started testing it... the game did look complete... but when a tester says &quot;it looks complete&quot;. What they really mean is: The games solid... has good overall game play... lots of potential... theres a few glitches which need straightening out...and the maps need fine tuning... the AI is erm... good.

that was kind of 2 years ago... and very much on schedule. From then to now... is where it gets exciting in game development, because its basically the time when the glitter and glue is added, and is when the game is introduced to the general public.

2mean
05-06-2007, 09:49 AM
tbh valve have that much control over everything I'd be surprised if they pushed back the release now unless something major was uncovered, and I doubt they would let people preview it if there was a major flaw. HL2 EP2 is what, a September release? there's hardly any decent media for that (aside from tech demos) and L4D has way more previews etc. already. I reckon it'll be on target, maybe end of summer but summer still.

Another example would be Hellgate London, an equally amazing looking game which is again sheduled for a sept/oct release.

Arkeneaver
05-06-2007, 10:00 AM
your right 2mean. there has been a lot of coverage on Left 4 Dead, especially when compared with HL2 EP2. This has been done with most exciting new releases coming through steam via valve. I highly doubt it would be pushed back as nothing of its type is coming out this quarter and due to all the coverage... will be very popular. As crysis has been pushed back to September... there is basically no competition. I wouldnt be suprised if it was released earlier.

2mean
05-06-2007, 10:20 AM
Heres hoping ;)

Shrubberyjsc
05-07-2007, 11:31 AM
I think it's not really the waiting that's getting to me, it's not knowing how long I'm going to be waiting.

I mean, if I just knew for certain it would be coming out late-summer, it would be better than this not knowing at all, esp. with all these rumors about Xmas-ish.

2mean
05-07-2007, 12:19 PM
Yeah def, at least I could try and pace myself instead of logging onto L4D411 everyday going OMG OMG OMG OMG OM.. aw.. ffs :(

I'm more excited about the release date getting announced than the game being released at this stage.

Shrubberyjsc
05-07-2007, 02:00 PM
I'm more excited about the release date getting announced than the game being released at this stage.

For sure.

&quot;Yeah def, at least I could try and pace myself instead of logging onto L4D411 everyday going OMG OMG OMG OMG OM.. aw.. ffs :(&quot;

Lawl, I do the same thing.

Arkeneaver
05-08-2007, 12:07 AM
i know what you mean... we really need an official release date. Or perhaps all this anticipation is profitable for them, because if Left 4 Dead was to be released at an unexpected time (hopefully earlier then later) it would be more exciting for us gamers.

Kawn45
05-08-2007, 06:09 AM
I hope L4D will come out in June or soooon! can't wait anymore :P need to play hehe :P

Shrubberyjsc
05-08-2007, 08:15 PM
I betcha they have a plan about when they are going to release all the details, and all of our whining just makes them Chortle.

&quot;Heh, look here's another thread with 185-odd posts pleading for the date!&quot; *Snicker*

Oh Developer Gods, WHY DO YOU MOCK US?!

Yes. It's official we are all obsessed.

dontleave
05-08-2007, 09:07 PM
Well duh... this is my most anticipiated game this year... And this year we get Too Human, DMC4, MGS4 and UT07 (I think, donno about that one)

Damn TRS gotta pulll this stuff on us now.

Arkeneaver
05-09-2007, 02:32 AM
true there are a lot of exciting new releases coming out this year. But moist are not due until September. Crysis has now randomly gone back to a release date of June, when it used to be September...random...Left 4 Dead however, will be the only game of its type to be released in the summer. Enemy territory quake wars looks good. Basically its a bf 2142... but done so much better. quake 4 + unreal 2004 + bf 2142 = awsome

ArsenaI
05-09-2007, 06:22 AM
Never realy got into Quake / UT or the Battlefield series.

Only games im looking forward too atm is RE4 on Wii (as ive not payed RE4 yet) due June 29th in Europe. Left 4 Dead (of course) and portal (as i like puzzle games).

Other than that nothing has realy taken my fancy this year. Any others people are looking forward to ?

Sandman77
05-09-2007, 10:25 AM
Ep2, TF2, L4D, Halo3, Halowars, Blue Dragon, Army of Two, New SW game on Xbox360, Fable 2 are games im waiting for...

Stupoider
05-09-2007, 12:03 PM
I feel a new thread coming up... :D

lilsamuraijoe
05-09-2007, 01:02 PM
SUPER SMASH BROS BRAWL!
MARIO GALAXY!
METROID PRIME: CORRUPTION!

squerl
05-09-2007, 01:03 PM
If it doesn't have to do with the release of L4D, please start a new thread.

Arkeneaver
05-10-2007, 02:05 AM
But theres been no new information on Left 4 dead... its quite hard to keep finding new and interesting ways to repeat what everyone already knows, you know :p

Stupoider
05-10-2007, 06:58 AM
Well... make a new thread anyways, this will be updated when a release date is announced :P

Shrubberyjsc
05-11-2007, 07:52 AM
Well, I may be able to wait for the release of L4D a little while longer!

I'm going to see 28 Weeks Later with a buncha friends tonight!

Woooooo!!!!

The One
05-11-2007, 12:54 PM
Wow, cant believe this thread has gone on for this long. Back then it was tied with the &quot;what would you do if l4d became reality&quot; thread. now this one beat it by a long shot. Wow

frogopus
05-11-2007, 12:56 PM
It has the advantage of being a sticky

The One
05-11-2007, 12:57 PM
Hahaha true........

Psyche
05-12-2007, 05:42 PM
Well if L4D comes out in the summer, I am getting it as soon as it comes out, or a prebuy comes out.

Sandman77
05-13-2007, 03:59 AM
The official gameguide is out in August so that is a sign of summer release if Amazon are right on the guide release...

Sandman77
05-13-2007, 04:10 AM
Gamestats has it listed as release 30th of June!

http://www.gamestats.com/objects/818/818215/

ArsenaI
05-13-2007, 07:17 AM
OMG then it must be true if Amazon and Gamestats have it ^___ ^

*sarcasm off*

And errm, a game guide for a primarily an online co-op game. I know its got singleplay abilities aswell but....what could you put in a game guide

Kill Switch
05-13-2007, 05:31 PM
The map outlines, weapon locations (if not randomized), hints/tips, characters and boss outlines and a lot more I'm sure.

dontleave
05-13-2007, 06:34 PM
The map outlines

Bingo.

frogopus
05-14-2007, 05:52 AM
Squerl and I will end up with a copy of it just so we can give you all an idea if its worth buying. I don't use game guides (or I just read them on breaks at work) but it might be useful for some. Weapon locations are not randomized.

Puscifer
05-14-2007, 06:38 AM
lol think i might buy it anyway, somthing decent to read like:P

dontleave
05-14-2007, 02:16 PM
Think this game will come out this summer, it simply has WAY too much to compete with if they release it in the holiday season.

BombinShoe
05-15-2007, 02:21 PM
Gamestop had it as 2Q for the release, and just recently changed it to Q4 ( although thinking of thier track record that dosent go very far)

The One
05-16-2007, 03:33 AM
May 20-30,July 15-30,September 20

Shrubberyjsc
05-16-2007, 10:27 AM
I really hope it is in June. That would be cool. I think as soon as it's polished, let us pre-order on steam! YAY! =)

BombinShoe
05-16-2007, 12:02 PM
My birthday is in June so that would be a welcome addition to getting another year older

Shrubberyjsc
05-16-2007, 08:51 PM
&quot;Turtle Rock and Valve plan to support the game after launch with additional full-length free scenarios. By the time the game ships, work will already be well underway on the first of these downloadable scenarios, with the current plan to ship new content this year.&quot;

Nail in the coffin for Q4 PC release. Period.

Arkeneaver
05-16-2007, 09:37 PM
its said that xbox will be seeing left 4 dead by November, possibly earlier. It is likely that the PC community will see this game before August. It is also fairly likely that a free trial will be issued for a period of three days. This will be beneficial to turtle rock, as the feed-back from this will reveal any buggs or improvements suggested by the players. Thousands of people are far more likely to find bugs then a team of 10.

BombinShoe
05-16-2007, 11:56 PM
Yeah if its coming out near christmas it would be pretty stupid to release new content, since you could just add it in the regular purchase package since its this year they are adding new content lol

Rannos
05-17-2007, 01:54 AM
&quot;Turtle Rock and Valve plan to support the game after launch with additional full-length free scenarios. By the time the game ships, work will already be well underway on the first of these downloadable scenarios, with the current plan to ship new content this year.&quot;

Nail in the coffin for Q4 PC release. Period.


Devil's advocate: Christmas and Q4 is this year still. However, with all the other evidence, there's not much pointing towards a post-summer release.

fantimm
05-17-2007, 03:06 AM
In my experience, if you hear any rumblings of a game being delayed, the game will be delayed. Hell, even if you don't hear any talk of delaying a game, it will still get delayed. Games are delayed more than they're played. So if we are hearing Xmas, I think it will be Xmas. Producers seem pretty adamant about getting it out this year, so I think that it IS delayed till Xmas, but that this will be the last delay.

Sandman77
05-17-2007, 04:10 AM
Well Ep2 got pushed back a year... :( Which seems to be on track now though why I think l4d will be out before...

DoubleTap
05-17-2007, 12:46 PM
I'm part of the &quot;September&quot; club.

And, re: guide, Y'all would be better off reading the Zombie Survival Guide. :P

dontleave
05-17-2007, 01:19 PM
Unless they do introduce a global stat tracking thing mentioned before, or put like 50 more maps, developement wise nothing should hold this game back. So if they do its probably because of those OR they just want to coincide with Ep2.

caboos
05-17-2007, 02:27 PM
im thinking from late June to early August

Antman
05-18-2007, 01:39 AM
im goin for mid to late june...

Arkeneaver
05-18-2007, 01:51 AM
i say tomorrow XD

Antman
05-18-2007, 07:12 AM
if only... lol

dontleave
05-18-2007, 08:38 AM
Just did a quick check through.

IGN, Gamespot, EBgames, and Gamestop have it listed as eithe Q4 07 or November 13. So there you go, im not sure if I'll be picking this game up on release anymore. It had a chance at summer, only mass Effect comes out around then but a whole plethora of games come out in that season, L4D im least excited about, eve more so now that its not released sooner.

sir monster
05-18-2007, 08:42 AM
IGN, Gamespot, EBgames, and Gamestop have it listed as eithe Q4 07 or November 13.

when did turtle rock say it would be released?

the correct answer is : they have not set a release date.

dontleave
05-18-2007, 08:43 AM
Yeah, so 4 sources simutaneously changing release dates is just a whole plot to get us pissed off?

ArsenaI
05-18-2007, 09:04 AM
Yeah, so 4 sources simutaneously changing release dates is just a whole plot to get us pissed off?

These sites just give &quot;educated guesses&quot;. Some might have asked the devs during their interveiw / playtest, and pushed them for a rough timeframe the game is looking to be released base on development so far, and some sites just go with the flow and state what other &quot;in the know&quot; websites go with. Their guess is as good as ours atm. untill TRS offically give a date, via press release or just announce it online, everything is speculation. People need to stop going on whatever websites say, just coz they are a website and may of got an interveiw with devs, that does not mean they have the date. TRS probably said the same thing to them than they do if one of us asked, which is *when its done* or *sometime this year*

sir monster
05-18-2007, 09:13 AM
first. EBgames IS Gamestop so its natural that they have the same release date on there. IGN and gamespot are news sites for games, since we know that TRS has not set a date then the only other source for this Q4 date would be....... EBgames/Gamestop. sense EBgames and Gamestop have ALWAYS put up release dates they pull out of their arses just so they can get people to pre order the games, i wouldnt take the date they have listed as anything more than &quot;sometime between now and eternity&quot;.

for example..both EB and Gamestop have Duke Nukem Forever with made up release dates.

also as recently as last week when it was announced that Blizzard would be making a game outside of the warcraft universe and would soon be giving out more details, EB Games listed Starcraft Ghost as a new release date. currently this game has been shelved as vaporware but if you were to believe EB, its coming out THIS YEAR! and most everyone believes that there is no way that Blizzard would be hyping this much for a game they have ALREADY announced in the past and then shelved due to problems with ...whatever they had problems with.

dontleave
05-18-2007, 09:16 AM
EB is very different from gamestop, in that no gamestop exists in Canada, meaning release dates could very well be different. And I know they are sister stores. Anyways, im preparing myself to be disappointed when this doesn't come out during the summer, or like that last week of summer which would be VERY lame. Considering then I have no time to play it. Atleast I have Mass Effect though.

sir monster
05-18-2007, 09:17 AM
Gamestop OWNS EB. the end. same company.

engagequadlaser
05-18-2007, 09:22 AM
Just did a quick check through.

IGN, Gamespot, EBgames, and Gamestop have it listed as eithe Q4 07 or November 13. So there you go, im not sure if I'll be picking this game up on release anymore. It had a chance at summer, only mass Effect comes out around then but a whole plethora of games come out in that season, L4D im least excited about, eve more so now that its not released sooner.

Hahaha, what is this, a grown man's tantrum? Did you actually just passive-aggressively threaten valve/trs?

Shrubberyjsc
05-18-2007, 10:39 AM
Hahaha, what is this, a grown man's tantrum? Did you actually just passive-aggressively threaten valve/trs?

HAHAHAHAHAAHAHA

/agree with EQL

Quotidius
05-18-2007, 10:45 AM
It suddenly dawned upon me that your moniker may be a sly reference to Monthy Python.
If that is the case, NII!


If not, carry on.

Arkeneaver
05-18-2007, 11:45 AM
giving out a late, roughly estimated release date is better then one which is early, this is because when the time comes near and the game isnt finished, people get very anoid when the release date is changed.. quite right too, so saying q4 as a rough estimate buys turtle rock a lot of time, and releasing it earlier then a given release date gives the fans an unexpected suprise... in this case... not so unexpected it may seem XD

Shrubberyjsc
05-18-2007, 01:55 PM
It suddenly dawned upon me that your moniker may be a sly reference to Monthy Python.
If that is the case, NII!


But of course, you dappy English Knnniigggghit!

( I used to try to get Just &quot;Shrubbery&quot; for screen names and such, but I always ended up using my initials, because someone always takes Shrubbery)

Now I always use Shrubberyjsc. (It's all my emails, and username for every game)

And, I should let you all know that mine is a True Nickname. It's an unspoken rule that someone else must give you your nickname.

I got mine from quoting MPHG so much. (I own the special ed. and watch it whenever I'm bored)

=P

caboos
05-18-2007, 02:12 PM
giving out a late, roughly estimated release date is better then one which is early, this is because when the time comes near and the game isnt finished, people get very anoid when the release date is changed.. quite right too, so saying q4 as a rough estimate buys turtle rock a lot of time, and releasing it earlier then a given release date gives the fans an unexpected suprise... in this case... not so unexpected it may seem XD

its called false hope, i need it to live

Shrubberyjsc
05-18-2007, 02:15 PM
Only time will tell if it has been false hope, or not.

I'm the kind to think the glass is half full. =)

caboos
05-18-2007, 02:17 PM
lol true, i hope its not false hope

Shrubberyjsc
05-18-2007, 08:12 PM
I would like to say that in general I'm proud of you guys for limiting your frustration/insanity over the release date not being announced yet.

I followed some random link over to the official L4D forums and some of those guys are going nuts over these rumors that have been floating around, cursing out Mike Booth, of all people.

Whatever the case may turn out to be, let's keep the discourse somewhat civilized, and perhaps Mr. Booth will be grateful enough to post answers to some questions or something.

;)

caboos
05-18-2007, 08:16 PM
thats cause here everything is all in good fun but there is like a war zone you will get attacked for just stating you opinion or asking a question

Sandman77
05-18-2007, 11:26 PM
Ep2 October maybe now... great.

fantimm
05-19-2007, 01:18 AM
false hope... so much false hope in this thread...

Arkeneaver
05-19-2007, 01:42 AM
its not false hope until the date is officially pushed back XD

was there an official estimation of &quot;A summer release&quot;? or was that stated by reviewers?

caboos
05-19-2007, 07:23 AM
hey dude i live off of false hope its what keeps me waking up in the morning lol

hooray for zombies
05-19-2007, 10:07 AM
&quot;Hope only becomes false when no one believes in anything&quot; I don't know if anyone has said that before, but if they didn't that is totally my line from now on.

Arkeneaver
05-19-2007, 11:49 AM
hope is false from the very start... unless there is some kind of fact to back up what ever it is your hoping for/...

hooray for zombies
05-19-2007, 11:52 AM
except that hope is a human emotion, a human perception, therefore a human's perception of hope would make it valid.

BombinShoe
05-19-2007, 02:24 PM
was there an official estimation of &quot;A summer release&quot;? or was that stated by reviewers?

Yes in the Teaser Trailer it states at the end &quot;Summer&quot;

If i remember correctly

Uz3r013
05-19-2007, 03:03 PM
We can only guestimate on the release date.

From what ive heard L4D can be out anywhere from
May20th to Q1 2008
Im hoping for a late june release myself

if its not out by then, hopefully E3 can shed somelight on the release date.