Hollywood Holocaust level

[HydratedPinkus]

So, to everyone's thats played Duke Nukem 3D, what would you think of a remake of the first two levels; Hollywood Holocaust and Red Light Destrict, set in the Left 4 Dead setting?

Thats what I went out to do a few days ago, after playing the Xbox Arcade version of Duke 3D and watching the L4D intro.

I plan to remake those first two maps, then combine them both so they're not so short as they were.

So far, I've got about 30% of the geometry of the first level done. Still a lot more to get done, especially in the detail department.

Oh, and it also features destructible stuff. Joy!

Here's a video of the original.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oUYSnWwDDU

And here's some early screenshots.

http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq230/DJSCM/dukenukem0000.jpg
http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq230/DJSCM/dukenukem0001.jpg
http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq230/DJSCM/dukenukem0002.jpg
http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq230/DJSCM/dukenukem0003.jpg
http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq230/DJSCM/dukenukem0004.jpg
http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq230/DJSCM/dukenukem0005.jpg
http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq230/DJSCM/dukenukem0006.jpg

[Supremacy]

Wow, not bad!

[L3banese_Maf1a]

very nice! i would love to see this finished!

nice work! :D

[DOG]

awwwwwwww!
I LOVE THAT GAME! - Great idea btw!

[HydratedPinkus]

I'll get a video as soon as possible

All I have left in this map is the theatre room, the projector room, the bathroom, and the arcade room left to model.

Everything else is at least modelled, and the basic layout is done.

Need to make my own textures soon, and then add in all the details.

There's some parts that are made with L4D in mind, like alleyways that weren't in the original Duke map and those street tunnels where you can only go one way (as in zombies can spawn far into the tunnel and run out, but you can't run into the tunnel the opposite way, meaning players can't access it)

A neat little joke: In the original Duke, there was an "Innocent?" billboard in the first level. This was a reference to the OJ trial.

In my level, there is a "Guilty! ...13 years later" billboard, referencing that OJ was found guilty exactly 13 years after his first trial. :)

[daddyrabbittts]

LOL I like level 2 with the porn shop LOL !!!

[lawlhat]

yeah. wish there was a pc version of this.

[HydratedPinkus]

PC version of what, this map?

You can't make maps for the 360 version, and since there's only two L4D versions coming out, that kinda narrows it down. ;)

[The Lorax]

You can't make maps for the 360 version, and since there's only two L4D versions coming out, that kinda narrows it down. ;)

i can has for wii?

[awdrgy123]

i can soooooo see this as a l4d map

[maxy126]

omg awesome :D

[lawlhat]

you need to finish this. Im gonna get duke on XBL today

[HydratedPinkus]

I'm nearing completion. I only have two rooms left to do, then its onto the detailing process.

I messed around with it in the demo yesterday. got all the textures to work properly, though the fact that the survivors can't move when they run into objects with physics kinda makes things hard.

I'll try and finish the basic geometry tonight and get a video.

[BenKenobi88]

lawlhat has a short attention span apparently.

[ZiggY]

Damn, this is why I need to get a new PC. HH has to be my favorite gaming level bar none.

Make sure you put in the hidden BFG spawn point, and the apartment. Don't worry about the secret turrets, because a jetpack would be a little too much.

[Dre]

duke nukem...........yes

[HydratedPinkus]

Ziggy, are you talking about the RPG underneath the "Innocent?" billboard? I already got it. :)

The apartments as well. And the secret that was hidden in there.

There's two secrets that required a jetpack (the turret area you referred to, and another area where you press a button on the cash register in the concession area and a little area opens up that requires a jetpack)

[HydratedPinkus]

For some reason, on both recording software I have, Half-Life 2 freezes every single time I get into the map.

It'll go from freezing a few seconds in, to freezing just before I'm done showing off the map.

Its a real hassle, because this only ever happens when actually recording, and on any map, not just this one.

[KebabKastike]

Memories memories :)

[Chamon]

Looks pretty good :)

[HydratedPinkus]

Got some more screenshots. 56ker's beware.

The spawn points, AKA the rooftop.

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj200/HydratedPinkus/duke/dukenukem0000.jpg
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj200/HydratedPinkus/duke/dukenukem0001.jpg
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj200/HydratedPinkus/duke/dukenukem0002.jpg

Street level

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj200/HydratedPinkus/duke/dukenukem0004.jpg
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj200/HydratedPinkus/duke/dukenukem003.jpg
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj200/HydratedPinkus/duke/dukenukem0012.jpg

The billboard. In the original Duke3D, it was "Innocent?" I believe. It was referring to the OJ trial that was going on and he was found Innocent. Well, you should all know he had another trial for a different crime just recently, and exactly 13 years after his first trial, he was found guilty. This explains "GUILTY! ...13 years later"

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj200/HydratedPinkus/duke/dukenukem0005.jpg

RPG under the billboard

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj200/HydratedPinkus/duke/dukenukem0006.jpg

Exploding the destructible wall, which also serves as a second entryway into the theater.

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj200/HydratedPinkus/duke/dukenukem0007.jpg
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj200/HydratedPinkus/duke/dukenukem0008.jpg

The apartments, complete with hidden room (instead of steroids, it will feature a few pain pills)

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj200/HydratedPinkus/duke/dukenukem0009.jpg
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj200/HydratedPinkus/duke/dukenukem0010.jpg
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj200/HydratedPinkus/duke/dukenukem0011.jpg

Cinema sign. It is a placeholder, and will look 10x better when I actually make it.

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj200/HydratedPinkus/duke/dukenukem0013.jpg

Inside the cinema.

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj200/HydratedPinkus/duke/dukenukem0014.jpg

Concessions area.

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj200/HydratedPinkus/duke/dukenukem0015.jpg
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj200/HydratedPinkus/duke/dukenukem0016.jpg
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj200/HydratedPinkus/duke/dukenukem0017.jpg

Going into the main theater room. (There's currently no video playing, but the final version will have one)

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj200/HydratedPinkus/duke/dukenukem0018.jpg
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj200/HydratedPinkus/duke/dukenukem0019.jpg

The arcade (its not an elevator, because an elevator in Left 4 Dead wouldn't fit that well, so it's stairs instead. It also doesn't have arcade machines yet)

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj200/HydratedPinkus/duke/dukenukem0020.jpg
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj200/HydratedPinkus/duke/dukenukem0021.jpg

Exiting the arcade through the workers passageway, and the exit of the level (the atomic button that you press to beat levels in Duke Nukem will instead be a saferoom, and this is where it changes level and you start Red Light District)

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj200/HydratedPinkus/duke/dukenukem0022.jpg
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj200/HydratedPinkus/duke/dukenukem0023.jpg
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj200/HydratedPinkus/duke/dukenukem0024.jpg

[ragnarok]

That's really awesome. Keep up the good work!

[ZiggY]

Looking great so far. I'm curious though, are you doing the projection room? I can't see a window the the screening room, so it looks like it isn't there at the moment.
Anyway, keep it up, I'm really looking forward to the final build!

[HydratedPinkus]

Yeah, i'm doing that room. The stairs are whats stopping me from doing it right now (spiral stairs? That's not gonna be a quick thing to do)

The bathroom also isn't made yet, but both are top priorities the next time I open HAMMER and work on this map.

And once I do those, the map almost completely done. I just have to make all my own textures and detail it.

[ZiggY]

Awesome, yet another reason for me to get around to building a new PC asap.

[clemroc]

HydratedPinkus, if you need a tester, I'm up for it! :)
I wish I could help with something else but I cant :S but if you need a scapegoat to test, I volunteer.

[HydratedPinkus]

I'm not going to continue work on this until George from 3DRealms (one of the high up guys that made Duke Nukem 3D) responds back. If I'm not allowed to continue this as it is, then I'm going to try to find a workaround so I can release it (whether its renaming itor whatever it is I have to do)

I'm not going to send this to anyone yet, so a tester isn't needed right now, but if I'm allowed to release this, then I'll look into getting testers.

I was planning on making my own set of textures, not borrowing from neither Duke Nukem 3D nor Half-Life 2, that way it's completely original.

I thought up some names for the levels. Hollywood Maulocaust and Dead Light District.

[Dre]

dead light district..........................you sir are a genius.

from looking at them pictures, i can say.............
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v255/Husleman/massivewin-1.gif

oh yea, just so you know, the hospital campaign has a elevator so.............yea

[Dre]

yea, i came back to this thread, because i was looking at all the maps that i've seen so far and compare them, and i've noticed one thing.

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj200/HydratedPinkus/duke/dukenukem0002.jpg
on this part..................wouldn't the entire team die soons they fall down that vent???

even duke loses health when he jumps down that thing, but the health under the vent refills his health soons he hits the ground.

wouldn't it be better if you added one of these exterior stairs enstead of the vent???
http://wwwdelivery.superstock.com/WI/223/1647/PreviewComp/SuperStock_1647R-42364.jpg
http://images.inmagine.com/img/imagesource/is_single0308/ie204540.jpg

like add some rooms, next to the stairs, so as you go down those exterior stairs, all the windows you would pass by, would be actual rooms you can go into, and the AI director could put zombies there in the rooms and could attack you by running through the giant windows. those windows are big enough for a human to walk through them easily.

[Eagle112]

The map definitely looks great but the demo maps in L4D are very dark with only really a few sources of light (other than your muzzleflash and flash light). A lot of your screen shots show lots of light and very colourful rooms, something the Demo L4D maps do not show. Anyway, keep up the good work :D!

P.S Dead light district is an awesome name!

[BaldingSteve]

I would love you if you did this, random person

[SwooshDood]

Dead light district
Red light district...

wait so there are zombie whores in this :D

zombie strippers? :D

[DrGreatJob]

If you need some help with textures, I'm very, very familiar with this game and I'm pretty good at texturing work.

[HydratedPinkus]

I haven't been able to work on this in quite some time. A month almost.

This is because I was waiting for someone from 3D Realms to contact me back with the OK to continue working on this, because otherwise legal actions would likely be taken.

I'm confident that when someone does get back to me, I will get the pass, so until then, this will receive minimal updates, if any.

I have, however, been creating some other things I hope to show off soon. :)

[Infest0125]

Its awesome so far :D

But I'm shocked there weren't any advertisements for zombie movies in the theater...

[HydratedPinkus]

That would be because zombie movie posters in zombie movies/theaters/games is cliche.

Yes, I know it'd probably look better, but still. Having actual posters from movies coming out soon makes it a little bit more realistic and less gimmicky.

[The Phreak]

Map needs work

[HydratedPinkus]

Thanks for pointing out the blatantly obvious considering this is a very far from finished work in progress.

If you have any other pointless tips I can go by, please post some more!

[The Phreak]

yeah stop making blocky architecture and practice more before you release it kthnx

[nZumbe]

Duke nuken 4 dead.

You gotta finish this asap. :D

[lauri]

Instant win! This map burned so badly to my mind when I was a kid.

[mazouth]

Excellent ! I see you're even making the so-known secret places !
Can we get the early rocket launcher ?

Btw, like Dre said, I hope we won't have to make that first jump... Those four survivors ain't on steroids...

Two thumbs up, keep up the good work !