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P4yn3
12-13-2008, 08:31 PM
A shop where you can buy items and equipment for your character. Could include various weapons, armor or clothing.
Different game mode such as a Survival mode in which the survivors are placed in a house or large mansion and are able to board up windows and block doors to protect themselves from the horde. This would be like a finale, only with more opportunities and defense capabilities. Possibly even the addition of turrets, mines and the usage of cameras to see where the horde is coming from.
A vehicle map in which survivors are in a vehicle like an APC, tank, van, bus or car and need to get from Point A to Point B. One player would be tasked with driving, one player would be able to use the main weapon of the vehicle and the other two are tasked with shooting out of windows with their guns and maintaining the vehicle. If the vehicle gets a flat tire or something, somebody would have to get out and press E to begin fixing it. All the while, the horde is coming and he or she needs to be defended. In case of a tank, you can choose to outrun it, or go head to head with it. On the way, you'd need to stop for gas at a gas station or find gas cans.
I'm not entirely sure if the Source Engine is capable of large vehicle maps in which people are actually using the vehicle, but I have seen some HL2 mods pull a vehicle map off.
mazouth
12-13-2008, 08:35 PM
Might be funny
but
This would not improve L4d, this would make it a mod of itself in my opinion.
knowitall
12-13-2008, 08:38 PM
I would definitely enjoy a realistic ( You know what I mean, like a movie) survival mode where it wasn't just hordes of zombies slamming against a house. You'd have to set up a defense with cameras, boarded up windows/doors and things like that. An opposing team would have to find the best way to break in and clear an opening for a horde that would come as the "floodgates" were opened.
I wish I could make this train of thought more clear, but I'm pretty tired.
P4yn3
12-13-2008, 08:40 PM
Might be funny
but
This would not improve L4d, this would make it a mod of itself in my opinion.
True, but in reality all we would need is a new engine for vehicles which is long overdue for the entire HL2 mod community.
I saw L4D as the last vessel for zombie fans. I think all zombie possibilities should be explored with L4D since its already got the back bone ready for it.
FullMetal
12-13-2008, 08:59 PM
A shop where you can buy items and equipment for your character.
EveryBody Except You And The Rescue Are Alive There Are no Open Stores For Business lol
Forsaken Bacon
12-13-2008, 09:11 PM
I like everything except for the store part, it would make players stick to the ones with the best gear.
P4yn3
12-13-2008, 09:21 PM
I like everything except for the store part, it would make players stick to the ones with the best gear.
True, or you could have varying set pieces that offer different abilities. For example, one piece is fire proof & explosion proof, one piece makes you jump higher (so boots). There could also be a riot shield item which replaces your main weapon. I know people hated it in Counter-Strike, but due to the over use of melee, I think it has a place in L4D. The equipment will try be as realistic as possible, nothing like WoW or something lol.
kaichi50
12-13-2008, 09:39 PM
A shop where you can buy items and equipment for your character. Could include various weapons, armor or clothing
new boss-infected will be selling the weapons his name is the Shop-owner
binge
12-13-2008, 11:00 PM
Here's an idea to improve l4d;
Leave it as it is & stop making shitty threads about it
Elite
12-13-2008, 11:19 PM
Add teh effing Flamethrower! :D
Its hinted that it will come.
I imagine that you can't melee with it.
Has short range.
Is dependent on teammates.
And pretty much is death sentence if a noob is using it.
P4yn3
12-14-2008, 12:43 AM
Here's an idea to improve l4d;
Leave it as it is & stop making shitty threads about it
Why don't you go fuck yourself?
Steve Cloud
12-14-2008, 01:18 AM
I like the sound of that vehicle map.
derrange
12-14-2008, 01:29 AM
Well on my opinion L4D is nearly perfect and it's really hard to find some glitches or try to do L4D even better. Actually i have 1 idea. I think that survivors must differ from eachother. Like Zoey is the fastest, but have less of health and can't use Shotgun or M4 etc.
And maybe some point about ammo. M4 doesn't have 50 bullets in holder, same with pistol, unlimited 15 for 45 Colt :P
Steve Cloud
12-14-2008, 01:41 AM
Like Zoey is the fastest, but have less of health and can't use Shotgun or M4 etc.
The characters are all supposed to be equal so what gun you choose dictates what role you play.
same with pistol, unlimited 15 for 45 Colt :P
Double-stack magazines.
Shrubberyjsc
12-14-2008, 08:18 AM
Why don't you go fuck yourself?
Check your inbox.
Shrubberyjsc
12-14-2008, 08:28 AM
Here's an idea to improve l4d;
Leave it as it is & stop making shitty threads about it
If you don't like the thread, don't post in it.
DedheD
12-14-2008, 09:02 AM
Vehicle map idea ftw.
noobishcake
12-14-2008, 09:15 AM
it's really hard to find some glitches
lol? are you kidding?
btw really good idea.
SCE_Dantalion
12-14-2008, 09:46 AM
so if there are vehicals .. how do the infected stop you ?
Steve Cloud
12-14-2008, 10:28 AM
so if there are vehicals .. how do the infected stop you ?
They climb on the vehicle or attack the survivors directly or the vehicle itself so you're forced to get out and try and fix it (basically it turns into a "defend this guy while he fixes this" situation), I'd assume.
oI FlapJack Io
12-14-2008, 11:07 AM
A vehicle map in which survivors are in a vehicle like an APC, tank, van, bus or car and need to get from Point A to Point B. One player would be tasked with driving, one player would be able to use the main weapon of the vehicle and the other two are tasked with shooting out of windows with their guns and maintaining the vehicle. If the vehicle gets a flat tire or something, somebody would have to get out and press E to begin fixing it. All the while, the horde is coming and he or she needs to be defended. In case of a tank, you can choose to outrun it, or go head to head with it. On the way, you'd need to stop for gas at a gas station or find gas cans.
Thats a good and bad idea because zombies attacking a apc is like throwing a rock at a bull but a pick up truck would be a good idea considering its alot more open
JudicialT
12-14-2008, 11:09 AM
A shop where you can buy items and equipment for your character. Could include various weapons, armor or clothing.
Or you could go mod Counter Strike.
oI FlapJack Io
12-14-2008, 11:11 AM
I would definitely enjoy a realistic ( You know what I mean, like a movie) survival mode where it wasn't just hordes of zombies slamming against a house. You'd have to set up a defense with cameras, boarded up windows/doors and things like that. An opposing team would have to find the best way to break in and clear an opening for a horde that would come as the "floodgates" were opened.
Dude thats basicaly what call of duty 5's zombie mode is
Jegar
12-14-2008, 11:23 AM
With that vehicle mod I could see smokers pulling people off the cars and zombies jump trying to get on, and blood covering the windshield, that would make me feel pretty good.
Jegar
12-14-2008, 11:24 AM
Also maybe the pickup could be a technical, pickup truck with machine gun mounted in back.
JudicialT
12-14-2008, 11:25 AM
Also maybe that technical could fly.
There. Now it's COMPLETELY impossible for the infected to win.
oI FlapJack Io
12-14-2008, 11:31 AM
Also maybe the pickup could be a technical, pickup truck with machine gun mounted in back.
Yeah i could imagine it me sitting in the back fireing rounds out of my uzi while one person it driving smashing into zombies while they fly through the air and blood splattering all over while someones on the machine gun mowing them down then someone in the passenger seat screaming because hes so scared he pissed him self lolzAlso maybe that technical could fly.
There. Now it's COMPLETELY impossible for the infected to win.
thanks buzz killington
Jegar
12-14-2008, 11:33 AM
With the bus too maybe there would be a ladder somewhere on the bus to climb onto the roof of the bus and perhaps snipers could sit up there.
Smith
12-14-2008, 11:35 AM
so if there are vehicals .. how do the infected stop you ?
Tank, Just smashes it into the nearest building. though that would pretty much just be game over cause the map would have to be massive for the vehicles
Grubster11
12-14-2008, 11:38 AM
A shop where you can buy items and equipment for your character. Could include various weapons, armor or clothing.
FailDifferent game mode such as a Survival mode in which the survivors are placed in a house or large mansion and are able to board up windows and block doors to protect themselves from the horde. This would be like a finale, only with more opportunities and defense capabilities. Possibly even the addition of turrets, mines and the usage of cameras to see where the horde is coming from.
I've always thought of this, it would be sick
JudicialT
12-14-2008, 11:40 AM
thanks buzz killington
I like playing Infected. If Survivors get vehicles, Infected are screwed.
oI FlapJack Io
12-14-2008, 11:40 AM
With the bus too maybe there would be a ladder somewhere on the bus to climb onto the roof of the bus and perhaps snipers could sit up there.
Dawn of the Dead Much Lolz
Smith
12-14-2008, 11:41 AM
I would love the survival mode if you could choose between intervals of common infected and special infected or just an infinite onslaught of common infected.
oI FlapJack Io
12-14-2008, 11:44 AM
I like playing Infected. If Survivors get vehicles, Infected are screwed.
when i say pick up truck i meen an old farm vehical that doesnt go very fast, the smokers could grab the people off the back of the truck the boomers could get in the way or thow up on the driver the hunter could jump onto the vehical or tackle people off the vehical and the tank could throw shit at them or just ram it lolz best idea ever thank you very much :P
Steve Cloud
12-14-2008, 11:56 AM
Also not mentioning you have to repair the truck when it goes into it's equivielent of temp health (it starts smoking and won't move, if you don't repair it before it reaches 0 'health' it explodes, because thats what trucks that have been hit by infected do), and refuel it at set points.
Also, the minigunner can only face one side (the front) and is used to clear the path ahead of common infected (which slow the truck when run over and do damage if they manage to hit it) and obstacles which are meant to be shot down.
Thats what I reckon anyway.
oI FlapJack Io
12-14-2008, 12:03 PM
Also not mentioning you have to repair the truck when it goes into it's equivielent of temp health (it starts smoking and won't move, if you don't repair it before it reaches 0 'health' it explodes, because thats what trucks that have been hit by infected do), and refuel it at set points.
Also, the minigunner can only face one side (the front) and is used to clear the path ahead of common infected (which slow the truck when run over and do damage if they manage to hit it) and obstacles which are meant to be shot down.
Thats what I reckon anyway.
geese we should just become game level designer :Plolz
Geiss
12-14-2008, 12:07 PM
when i say pick up truck i meen an old farm vehical
I could totally see that. Wonder how rock resistant it would be. Would the tank be able to ko the truck with pieces of concrete?
Also, the minigunner can only face one side (the front)
Interesting math observation with this arrangement - the farther down the map you drive, the less area you cover...
... couldn't resist, what a geek I am. :D
Facing the front would be the only fair arrangement however so if done it should be facing front, though probably nothing as heavy cal as something like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technical_(fighting_v ehicle) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technical_(fighting_vehicle)
Steve Cloud
12-14-2008, 12:11 PM
It actually seems more unfair to the survivors than it does the infected. If a smoker pulls one guy off, they have to stop the truck and go help him. All the while their truck is vulnerable.
The driver is far from invincible either, in case you were wondering. Apart from the threat of the truck exploding (which isn't a game-over itself but may as well be) and killing him, theres also the threat of direct melee attacks, the tank (he takes massive damage if the tank hits the front of the truck) and a smoker tongue (lets just say there is no driver-side door, so the smoker can just pull him right out if he's quick).
Interesting math observation with this arrangement - the farther down the map you drive, the less area you cover...
... couldn't resist, what a geek I am. :D
Facing the front would be the only fair arrangement however so if done it should be facing front, though probably nothing as heavy cal as something like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technical_(fighting_v (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technical_(fighting_v) ehicle)
I got a D+ in maths. I have no idea what you're on about.
Also, I imagine a different sort of a truck. It needs to be bigger than a ute with a minigun.
Elite
12-14-2008, 12:22 PM
How about allow the chaingun to fire to the sides like the one ingame? Survivors seem pretty fucked once a smoker comes in...
I think there should be an ammo pile in the vehicle so the passengers won't run out of ammo. It should be limited though because lets say the passengers Rifles and they just fire non-stop. They won't even need the chaingun. This would also make it so that the Survivors might need to make a pit stop to look for an ammo crate and bring it to the vehicle. Im sure it could be implimented like the gascan and the propane tank, where it becomes a weapon that you pick and can't switch weapons while holding it.
oI FlapJack Io
12-14-2008, 01:05 PM
It actually seems more unfair to the survivors than it does the infected. If a smoker pulls one guy off, they have to stop the truck and go help him. All the while their truck is vulnerable.
The driver is far from invincible either, in case you were wondering. Apart from the threat of the truck exploding (which isn't a game-over itself but may as well be) and killing him, theres also the threat of direct melee attacks, the tank (he takes massive damage if the tank hits the front of the truck) and a smoker tongue (lets just say there is no driver-side door, so the smoker can just pull him right out if he's quick).
yeah but im not talking about like a straight drive i would think like some kinda mountain or group of buildings that the paths are so close togther that you cant drive through them but it would be a lil bit slower than driving and my idea of the vehical is kinda like the guerilla trucks in mercs 2 because they are a lil bit more armoured so they could take a lil bit more damage and would provide more protection
oI FlapJack Io
12-14-2008, 01:08 PM
yeah and just think by driving you would atract so many zombies that they would be running behind you and when you had to stop for ammo/weapons/health/pick up a teamate/or gas the zombies wouldn't be far behind so they would catch up lolz i love my idea
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