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Xerosnake90

07-20-2007, 11:21 AM

If the game comes out for 360 first and not pc. And the reason being that we don't have stuff like the editing software or whatever, so they release it first and tweak up the pc version first.

XD ahahaha. That would be a great last laugh kinda situation even though it's kinda a first laugh situation seeing as we would get it first.

iRelentless

07-20-2007, 11:22 AM

They wont delay the PC release just because of the SDK update not being available. The SDK is separate, it just comes free with the game. (as with HL2, CS:S, DOD:S, etc.)

Xerosnake90

07-20-2007, 11:24 AM

*inserts another random reason to why it gets released to 360 first*

The point is that it'd be funny, not why it would be delayed. So let's not get into that.

Shroom

07-20-2007, 11:56 AM

Its a PC game an xbox port so they wont. So this thread is pointless.

dontleave

07-20-2007, 11:57 AM

It would never happen... in so many more ways than you can think of how it could happen.

Chronos

07-20-2007, 12:06 PM

Consoles aren't even in the same league as PC's.

Shroom

07-20-2007, 12:08 PM

Consoles aren't even in the same league as PC's.

lol i hope you are wearing your flameproof vest :)

Chronos

07-20-2007, 12:10 PM

lol i hope you are wearing your flameproof vest :)
I won't care what any 360 fanbois have to say. If they've never played any real PC game before on a real gaming PC, then they can't say shit. I have a 360 and an amazing gaming rig so I know my shit.

lilsamuraijoe

07-20-2007, 01:48 PM

Battle of the nerds!

Pixelnator

07-20-2007, 02:25 PM

Consoles aren't even in the same league as PC's.

You are speaking the truth but don't seem to realize the point of what you just said yourself...

It's true that computers and consoles are in a different league.
Hence they are called computers and consoles rather than computers and "TV-computers".

Consoles are designed with gaming in mind while PC's are actually designed to be able to do multiple tasks which just happens to include gaming. Thus you are comparing a swiss army knife and a kitchen knife. The other one is complicated but useful when you know how to use it and the other one is simple but efficient and serves the purpose you expect it to. It can't do much else though.

And sometimes you just want to use the kitchen knife instead of the swiss army knife.

iRelentless

07-20-2007, 02:57 PM

I won't care what any 360 fanbois have to say. If they've never played any real PC game before on a real gaming PC, then they can't say shit. I have a 360 and an amazing gaming rig so I know my shit.

In any case, lets not start another PC vs Console war in this thread.

No Shelter

07-20-2007, 02:58 PM

Their different. There its settled.

Chronos

07-20-2007, 07:59 PM

Their different. There its settled.
They're*

And different does not mean they're equal. Only reason for a real gamer to buy a console is for games that won't come out on PC because of it's popularity because of the amount of computer illiterate people in this world. Consoles are just simple for mild gamers who aren't very smart. Hence why it has so many kiddies.

Xerosnake90

07-20-2007, 08:07 PM

The first video game, pong, was released as a coin operated machine by atari. It was a game console with 1 game, it was not a computer, the first video game came out on a console.

Thus consoles are what make you a TRUE gamer, not a pc. Just because you say it doesn't mean it's true. Cuz you aren't shit, Chronos. You're another bitch in the world just like all of us. So take a seat and be quiet.

Chronos

07-20-2007, 08:24 PM

Thus consoles are what make you a TRUE gamer, not a pc. Just because you say it doesn't mean it's true. Cuz you aren't shit, Chronos. You're another bitch in the world just like all of us. So take a seat and be quiet.
Just because consoles were the only thing available in game's early life doesn't mean it's better. I also recommend when in a debate you avoid direct unrelated insults. It makes you look bad. And try to use good grammar.

As for me being a true gamer, I'm probably three times the gamer you'll ever be. Life story time. Started playing NES at the age of 3, got an N64 at age 7, got a Gabecube around 9. Got my first computer at 10. Played my first online game, TFC, at same age. Got a new computer at 13. Completely stock. Got a better videocard a year or so later. Got an xbox 360 last November (I was 16) to see how bad the competition was. There basically was no competition. Built my new computer last December.

I play every type of game there is. If it's a popular game, I've probably played it. I know what I'm talking about. You clearly don't. You're just a 360 fanboy who can't see a true gaming machine from a cheap ripoff with limitations, networking issues and horrible controls. The only reason to ever use one is for games you can't get on a PC or for idiots who don't know how to use a PC. Price might be a point some bring up, but it's hardly valid. I'll elaborate if you really want to on that. But basically, consoles are no competition for PC's. Ever.

iRelentless

07-20-2007, 08:25 PM

The first video game, pong, was released as a coin operated machine by atari. It was a game console with 1 game, it was not a computer, the first video game came out on a console.

It doesn't matter which played games first... even if it did matter the very first pong-like game was on an oscilloscope and pre-dated pong by over 10 years.

Lets all go play with oscilloscopes.

Can people stop arguing about PC's vs Consoles yet? If not, at least keep it in one thread.

Chronos

07-20-2007, 08:29 PM

Can people stop arguing about PC's vs Consoles yet? If not, at least keep it one thread.
I'm very defensive when it comes to this matter. When I argue about it, I feel like I'm getting an early taste of Left 4 Dead with millions of brainless console players being the zombies.

hooray for zombies

07-20-2007, 08:33 PM

I personally take the route of sanity: I use both of them and just enjoy playing games in general

Xerosnake90

07-20-2007, 08:42 PM

*sighs* I very much agree, I have no hatred against pc or its games cuz I don't care for it whatsoever but people being ignorant just can't be ignored.

iRelentless

07-20-2007, 08:50 PM

With all the extra knowledge anti-console PC gamers claim to have, they should realise that bells and whistles don't make a gaming machine, nor does the competence of its users. It's fun games, and both consoles and PC's have shed loads of those.

Edit: Before anyone hastily decides to call me "just another fanboy" or something along those lines, I haven't played a console for over a year and a half now.
/edit

I'm very defensive when it comes to this matter. When I argue about it, I feel like I'm getting an early taste of Left 4 Dead with millions of brainless console players being the zombies.

Leet, guess that makes me the tank then? or at least a boomer. :P

Etheallmighty

07-20-2007, 08:57 PM

damit i had something to say that would satisfy both sides (somewhat), but for some reason I just got to "Hooray for zombies" post, then it went blank lol.....it's all your fault.

oh yeah

....I do have a 360 yes, and I do have a nice custom PC (brother's , but basicallly it's mine).......but like a great man once said (no not A.Lincoln)
I'm very defensive when it comes to this matter. When I argue about it, I feel like I'm getting an early taste of Left 4 Dead with millions of brainless console players being the zombies.

Leet, guess that makes me the tank then? or at least a boomer. :P

...and I, the HUNTER! :P

iRelentless

07-20-2007, 09:05 PM

If this forum had karma, I'd find that post by pixelnator just to give +karma. Then maybe PM an admin saying "pixelnator needs MOAR KARMA!"

hooray for zombies

07-20-2007, 09:05 PM

hooray for zombies!

indeed, indeed

dontleave

07-20-2007, 09:16 PM

With all the extra knowledge anti-console PC gamers claim to have, they should realise that bells and whistles don't make a gaming machine, nor does the competence of its users. It's fun games, and both consoles and PC's have shed loads of those.

Edit: Before anyone hastily decides to call me "just another fanboy" or something along those lines, I haven't played a console for over a year and a half now.
/edit

Quoting: Chronos

I'm very defensive when it comes to this matter. When I argue about it, I feel like I'm getting an early taste of Left 4 Dead with millions of brainless console players being the zombies.

Leet, guess that makes me the tank then? or at least a boomer. :P

Wow what fanboy... You want a fanny fanboy? How would you like a big huge fanny for your big huge fanboy fanny...

K. Im done.

iRelentless

07-20-2007, 09:32 PM

Would that be a "fanny" as defined in the English way or the American way?
Either way, I don't know you well enough and your probably male so it would be a definite no.

haha :P

Odds_Bodkins

07-20-2007, 10:26 PM

Shrubberyjsc

07-20-2007, 10:58 PM

Can't we all just get along?!

0_o

Xerosnake90

07-21-2007, 12:36 AM

"The first video game, pong, was released as a coin operated machine by atari. It was a game console with 1 game, it was not a computer, the first video game came out on a console."

Programmed on a computer first and then ported over to the console.

LMAO! Of course it was mae on a computer, otherwise you couldn't even have the game. Or any game for that matter. Funny though, they make a game on a computer and don't figure to put it out for that first.

Shroom

07-21-2007, 12:42 AM

logic says: THATS BECAUSE PERSONAL COMPUTERS WOULD HAVE COST SO MUCH BACK THEN.

Hauger

07-21-2007, 01:21 AM

It wont happen, but would have been a bit funny yes :D

Pixelnator

07-21-2007, 03:19 AM

Let's see... I have played NES, SNES, N64, Sega genesis, PS1, PS2, Xbox, Xbox 360, Gamecube and, my personal favourite, the Wii (which counts as NES SNES Sega genesis, turbographix and N64 due to the shop channel but i left it out this time)

If you count in the handhelds you can add Gameboy, Gameboy color, Gameboy Advance and DS to the list. Oh and the PSP.

And the first computer i used only had a DOS on it so i played Digger (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digger_%28computer_game%29) and Alleycat (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alley_Cat_%28game%29) in black and white as our computer didn't even have color. As for multiplayer gaming experience, the first game i played was actually in LAN since internet was pretty much a rare treat those days.

And from that experience i can say that computers and consoles are pretty even gameplay-wise.

(Small note. I don't actually own all of the above consoles. Just the Nintendo ones. But that doesn't really matter as it's the playing experience that counts)

(And no. I'm not 85 or anything. 17 actually :P )

Lolerskates

07-21-2007, 04:01 AM

The whole premise is stupid, considering one can only be better on games alone. See: Why sony had a shitload of market share when xbox and gamecube were far behind.

FadedEchos

07-21-2007, 04:04 AM

Got a 360 and a PC, love them both. And I'm with the whole games > system crowd. Right now I just finished condemned on the 360, which is an awesome scary game that everyone should play with the brightness all the way down, and later this year I'll be playing Left4Dead non stop on my PC every second of every day I'm not working. They're both great for games and if a game comes out on both the only difference is whether you prefer a mouse+keyboard or a gamepad+mic.

360 and PC ftw!

That having been said, the moddibility (sp? ;D) of pc games and my own love of precision aiming with a mouse usually has me buying the PC version of a game if I can. But that having been said, I'm playing my 360 more right now than my PC.

It's all about the games.

Pixelnator

07-21-2007, 05:02 AM

my own love of precision aiming with a mouse

Actually, shooting with a wii remote is really easy too (although you need to get used to it first). I can pop headshots with ease in Resident Evil 4 on my wii :D

Asura

07-21-2007, 07:31 AM

Ps3 wtf! <3 <3

darksora2323

07-21-2007, 07:36 AM

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Chronos

07-21-2007, 07:44 AM

With all the extra knowledge anti-console PC gamers claim to have, they should realise that bells and whistles don't make a gaming machine, nor does the competence of its users. It's fun games, and both consoles and PC's have shed loads of those.
Console games have far too many problems that PC games will never see. These problems honestly ruin the game to an non-fun level. It's usually lagg problems since none of the games ever use dedicated servers. Gears of War is the biggest one. Great game, amazing gameplay, but horrible network optimization preventing anyone that isn't the host from having half a chance of winning. That's not to say that all games have those problems, but the only good game I can think of that works well online is Halo 3 which isn't out yet.

All in all, consoles aren't necessarily bad, but they certainly will never be as good as PC's. Never.

iRelentless

07-21-2007, 12:14 PM

A whole page with no direct arguments. Oh I am a happy panda!

Console games have far too many problems that PC games will never see. etc. etc.
Consoles have only had less time online compared to PCs, when they have had as long online as PC's have, they will probably be just as optimised.

All in all, consoles aren't necessarily bad, but they certainly will never be as good as PC's. Never.
That's impossible to predict accurately, what about when the current set of technology reaches it's upper limits. There may be a short time when consoles and PC's are completely equal before being made obsolete and replaced by a small headset which can do everything including online play via 10,000gb/s satellite internet or something ridiculous like that.
But for the foreseeable future, I agree with that. (except for casual group play on one machine, etc. which is what consoles were built up around before they went online. Even before they had single player games with AI)

Shrubberyjsc

07-21-2007, 12:28 PM

Oh I am a happy panda!

"Sexual Harassment, PANDA!"

iRelentless

07-21-2007, 12:38 PM

WRONG! (http://lexluthoraol.ytmnd.com/)

Its Petey, the "Don't sue people" Panda now. :P

Shrubberyjsc

07-21-2007, 01:07 PM

"That makes me a sad panda."

=(

dontleave

07-21-2007, 01:23 PM

PC's have always been better than consoles, its not only easy to predict its also written in history.

That sexual harassment Panda went on for a VERY long time... it drove people insane!!! Plus some idiot I knew kept saying, "sexual harassment bear," effectively making himself a retard.