whats the deal?

[General IR]

this game seems to be popular, G4 gave it the fourth best in the "buzz-o-meter" but when i see other show like Game Head or in general E3 news on other shows or web sites, i hardly hear anything about left 4 dead, is this game like a sleeper hit or something? in Game Head when they where talking about sleeper hits in E3, left 4 dead didnt come up, is it just above a sleeper hit game

[Chronos]

Horrible grammar and run-on sentences aside, it is true that this game is really not seeing the light of day. For some reason it just isn't getting as large scale as some popular up-and-comings right now. I think one part of it is the lack of decent gameplay videos. We've only gotten 2 real gameplay videos and even they weren't that great quality (plus they cut out a lot preventing us from seeing the whole mission).

[Xerosnake90]

Horrible grammar and run-on sentences aside, it is true that this game is really not seeing the light of day. For some reason it just isn't getting as large scale as some popular up-and-comings right now. I think one part of it is the lack of decent gameplay videos. We've only gotten 2 real gameplay videos and even they weren't that great quality (plus they cut out a lot preventing us from seeing the whole mission).

From all the posts I've seen you make, which are a very rare few btw, you seem to be pointing out negatives from whatever it is. Sounds like me until I decided to get nicer, maybe you should consider to not be a smartass and just be nice like all the others.

[dontleave]

Bah, you both ruined it, this was gonig to be the topic with the most views and no replies...

[Shrubberyjsc]

Heh, so make a topic that says "View this but don't reply"

If that's what you really want.

=P

[Shroom]

Heh, so make a topic that says "View this but don't reply"

If that's what you really want.
someone would reply for sheer hell of it.

[dummiesday]

this game seems to be popular, G4 gave it the fourth best in the "buzz-o-meter" but when i see other show like Game Head or in general E3 news on other shows or web sites, i hardly hear anything about left 4 dead, is this game like a sleeper hit or something? in Game Head when they where talking about sleeper hits in E3, left 4 dead didnt come up, is it just above a sleeper hit game



Hey there and welcome to the forums!

As you can see, the game has a small but dedicated community. If you want some info on the game, check out the preview of Squerl and Frogopus: it's full gameplay details.

I would say this is going to be the paradigm of sleeper hit. You won't find a lot of media on the net, but everyone who has played it (betas and public demos, like the Showdown LAN in San Jose) says it's ridiculously fun. Plus, it's made by Turtle Rock Studios, and this is what they have to say on their site:

"By leveraging its industry-leading AI technology and years of Counter-Strike development experience, Turtle Rock is building upon the elements that make Counter-Strike successful and applying them to Left 4 Dead," said Gabe Newell, co-founder and president of Valve. "What Counter-Strike did for multiplayer action games, Left 4 Dead will do for co-op games."

So yeah, the guys know a thing or two of videogames ;)

[squerl]

Yeah, I'm not entirely sure either. Whenever anybody does play it, they're amazed just as we were. I think there's a few things that might go against it in terms of 'mainstream press' or hype:

1) It's entirely multiplayer. Yes, you can just start a game with 7 bots but that's still a multiplayer experience. I can't think of too many multiplayer-only games.

2) It's co-op. Nobody is really sure what a good co-op FPS game will/could/would be. Yes, you have some Doom 3 mods that let you do it or some other modded games, but for a game to be entirely built on something other than Deathmatch/Capture the Flag and not have a single player mode? That's weird, and different.

3) It's from Turtle Rock. If you watch the G4TV interview, I thought it was a strange question here:

KEVIN: Very cool. Now, how can I trust your company to develop using.. you said this was on Steam, it's running on Source engine, Valve technology.. is there a bit of a track record there?

It seemed like he wanted to say if he can trust an unknown company. Sure, Turtle Rock has done stuff for Counter-Strike but they don't have games they've made themselves. There's no way of saying 'from the makers of so and so game, so it's got to be good!'

Sleeper hit? I think so. It's innovative and is the best designed FPS multiplayer game I've ever played, and I don't think people truly believe that until they actually get to play it.

[General IR]

i remeber i hardly heard anything about shadowrun (multiplayer only) untill the demo came out, and then i saw a lot of people played the full game. do you think this might happen with L4D

Horrible grammar and run-on sentences
to let you all know i have a mild dyslexia

[KashMunni]

You know what would be an awesome mod I just thought of cause of Squerl

Capture the Flag ! :D

No Bosses just infected and they all protect the flag while you try to shoot your way through take their flag and make your way back home :P

kinda sounds like fun to me..

to let you all know i have a mild dyslexia

Dang sorry to hear that General :\

*cough* Now that makes Chronos look like a total dick * cough*

[Etheallmighty]

there will be mods.....OH YES!!.....there willl be mods

[General IR]

mods are only for PC right, cause that sucks for me
is there anyway to get mods on 360

[Etheallmighty]

mods are only for PC right, cause that sucks for me
is there anyway to get mods on 360

same here :(.....I think it's illegal to mod yo 360

[General IR]

are we not aloud to download those new game mods, like in half-life

[Teknobry]

dislexia is just for lazy people :p

[General IR]

now if i was able to get the PC game, where do i go to get there mods

dislexia is just for lazy people :p
im trying to get some info here, i dont need people making fun of me.
and its a real learning disorder

[Quotidius]

Now that makes Chronos look like more of a dick.

Edited for correctness.

[KashMunni]

now if i was able to get the PC game, where do i go to get there mods

Usually when i want to get a mod i just search for the it on google using the name of the mod

and i guess if u want to search for the mod off a website u can look here


Link: http://halflife2.filefront.com/

[General IR]

and theres no way to put them on the 360

[Shrubberyjsc]

I don't know about any of you, but I've been telling everyone I know that this will be an awesome game. Even those who don't have computers.

We must spread the word, brothers!

=D

[dontleave]

Don't be mad at Chronos, every forum needs a resident-moron-grammar-nazi to be complete. He's just the ugly part of the family :)

[Chronos]

From all the posts I've seen you make, which are a very rare few btw, you seem to be pointing out negatives from whatever it is. Sounds like me until I decided to get nicer, maybe you should consider to not be a smartass and just be nice like all the others.
From all the posts I've seen you make, which are an average amount btw, you seem to be failing horribly at grammar and making uninteresting or stupid posts about whatever it is. Sounds like me until I decided to get past age 10. Maybe you should consider growing up and not coming back to the internet until you do.

That was a fun format copying post.

1) It's entirely multiplayer. Yes, you can just start a game with 7 bots but that's still a multiplayer experience. I can't think of too many multiplayer-only games.

Although there aren't a lot of multiplayer ONLY games, many games are so far based on the multiplayer that it's really the only content of the game worth buying.
to let you all know i have a mild dyslexia
Cool. I have AIDs.

*cough* Now that makes Chronos look like a total dick * cough*
Okay.

Edited for correctness.
Hi.

I don't know about any of you, but I've been telling everyone I know that this will be an awesome game. Even those who don't have computers.
Yeah, people definitely know about the game. But it's very rarely advertised and like I said earlier, we've very little footage of actual gameplay.

Don't be mad at Chronos, every forum needs a resident-moron-grammar-nazi to be complete. He's just the ugly part of the family :)
Roger.

[iRelentless]

Capture the Flag ! :D

No Bosses just infected and they all protect the flag while you try to shoot your way through take their flag and make your way back home :P
I don't think that would need a mod, the main "go to one place, then to another" should be programmale in an actual map.

Example:
Escape zone in spawn or behind a door or whatever --> item somewhere with a trigger around it to activate escape zone, or open a path to it, or activate a door somewhere which leads to it --> players follow the other route to escape zone, or return to spawn which has become the escape zone now.

Might need a little in-game explanation via. on screen text or marks on the level map though. (if l4d has level maps in game)

EDIT: Sorry, this is kind of off-topic.

EDIT2: If it's possible to define an area where survivors can enter, but zombies can't enter/be spawned in, the pre-defined gang of zombies around the item should be possible, in theory.

[General IR]

this seems to be what happened to dead rising, i came across dead rising about 3 or 4 mouths before it came out and i heard almost nother about it anywhere else, then the ads for it came in and it became a good well-known game

[dontleave]

I had my own idea of CTF for this game... pretty much the same CTF except the random variable of a bazillion marauding zombies.

:)

[Schizam]

Well have you seen what its up against? Im sure they dont want to spend a lot of time with it when theres Halo 3, Mass Effect, CoD4, Fallout 3, Bioshock etc.

I wish they would though, it will show that gameplay > next-gen graphics. (although all those games look awesome, except maybe Halo 3 )

[Quotidius]

Hi.


How laconic of you. Verily, I have been bested by this veritable barrage of "coolness".

[TamAlthor]

It boils down to marketing. like it was said before, This game can't even be summed up as "from the makers of..." Plus the fact that this is one of the first real Co-op games. How do you Market it? I bet if someone came up with a good script for a commerical to best explain the concept, and make it apealing to olbies and newbies, and to have them understand what they are getting into you could prolly get some good money from Turtlerock. well maybe not. But with all ya'll emailing Mike Booth, i would say give it a try if you know how to write a professional looking scipt. just send me 15% of what you get :P

So far I think that they have followed the best stradegy, The got on steam last Novmember to anounce the creation of the game and to start getting the buzz going around to CSS, DODS, Half life, etc fans. The next step was getting the word out to reviewers. Then of course on to the public venues like Showdown and E3. I don't know that there will be much 'new blood' buying this game when i first comes out. Mostly Source game veterans, and other multiplayer game fans. But word will spread. Half life 2 was the gold standard in FPS action for so long, CS and CSS revolutionized multiplayer gaming. we will see the same with L4D, I think it will be a steeper curve, but Turtle Rock and Valve are going to see a great return on this investment

[KashMunni]

ah just like any other game

if its good it will get a lot of customers which will be the "source vets" and the word will spread to other people.. besides its coming out for 2 diff types of gaming.. im sure this game will pwn the market

if it sucks it will get a bad rep and no one will want to buy it

[M1khail]

Co-op is nothing new, its just that there havent been any good ideas for a co-op themed game. Zombie themed co-op isn't also anything new, as many of you have played countless different zombie mods. Turtle Rock Studios just have a better idea in how to do a co-op game that is fun to play. The basic idea is the same, the way of doing that is totally different.

[Chronos]

How laconic of you. Verily, I have been bested by this veritable barrage of "coolness".
Okay.

[Stubbs]

ARE YOU ALL STUPID???????



WHY THE HELL DO YOU WANT THE GAME WELL KNOWN???

I DONT KNOW ABOUT ANY OF YOU BUT ACTUALLY WANT TO GET THE GAME NOT SEE THAT THE GAME STORES ARE SOLD OUT EVERYTIME I TRY TO GET IT!!!

[iRelentless]

I DONT KNOW ABOUT ANY OF YOU BUT ACTUALLY WANT TO GET THE GAME NOT SEE THAT THE GAME STORES ARE SOLD OUT EVERYTIME I TRY TO GET IT!!!
I'll be buying on steam. But if I was getting it on x360 I'd definitely post a Hellz yeah!