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mac89
08-02-2007, 11:44 AM
http://shacknews.com/onearticle.x/48267
http://www.fileshack.com/browse.x/3891

QuotidianTemerity
08-02-2007, 11:45 AM
Holy- YESH!


Edit: registration required Ò_Ó

Edit2: the upper link works fine.

Edit3: ooooh maaan.

dontleave
08-02-2007, 11:46 AM
L4d?!?!?!!?!! - Much love to the mac. LOOK AT THE FIRE!

QuotidianTemerity
08-02-2007, 11:48 AM
Damn, whoever is playing sucks.
He completely ignores the teamwork aspect.

dontleave
08-02-2007, 11:50 AM
Nice, the height fits the models realistically... unlike some games >.< Holy shit, subway entrance scene so good! zombie climbers!

rim-shading=very nice.

Dynamic flashlight shadows!! atleast i think, check when they're getting in the vent

No Shelter
08-02-2007, 11:52 AM
Ahh so you can use the tongue on ground level. FIRE LOOKS AWESOME!

QuotidianTemerity
08-02-2007, 11:52 AM
Beta, pliz.

dontleave
08-02-2007, 11:54 AM
you can change difficulty ingame

darksora2323
08-02-2007, 11:55 AM
DLing right now
youtubeing it soon

who ever was playing as the smoker was a nub

dontleave
08-02-2007, 11:56 AM
Wheres the rest >.< Bandaging animation is better, theres no actual bandage but u can see him rolling it around his arm and leg

The bikers hair is silky smoothe.

darksora2323
08-02-2007, 12:00 PM
wow this is a pretty big file
it will take sometime

dontleave
08-02-2007, 12:01 PM
Is that music in game?

Teh Swat
08-02-2007, 12:02 PM
That was so awesome, can't wait for more.

Edit: The first link streams it.

QuotidianTemerity
08-02-2007, 12:02 PM
MAWR PLIZ.

darksora2323
08-02-2007, 12:04 PM
Is that music in game?

i dont think so
it sounds like background music from QC
anyway the infected can really jump man

ArsenaI
08-02-2007, 12:11 PM
Not posted on this forums for a while, hey all :)

Game looks great, maps look just as i had of hoped. cant wait ;)

dontleave
08-02-2007, 12:15 PM
MAWR PLIZ.

darksora2323
08-02-2007, 12:16 PM
wow this file is takin awhile
but anyway its at 45%
if anyone have a steam fourm account tell them i am DLing it now

i signed up but i didnt ge a confirmation email

dontleave
08-02-2007, 12:16 PM
57%

At 156kbps, IM FIGHTING THE MACHINE wooooooooooooooo

150 cap, HA!

QuotidianTemerity
08-02-2007, 12:17 PM
Woah. You can see Breen at approximately 2:24 ;D

Deek
08-02-2007, 12:17 PM
9 minute download ... feels like an eternity.

dontleave
08-02-2007, 12:18 PM
Woah. You can see Breen at approximately 2:24 ;D

Wah?

QuotidianTemerity
08-02-2007, 12:20 PM
The first zombie that charges up the staircase has an uncanny resemblance with Breen.

darksora2323
08-02-2007, 12:21 PM
63%


The first zombie that charges up the staircase has an uncanny resemblance with Breen.

whos that

QuotidianTemerity
08-02-2007, 12:24 PM
Breen. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wallace_Breen)

At approximately 2:24.

Not really, but it sure looks like him :)

darksora2323
08-02-2007, 12:25 PM
Breen.

At approximately 2:24.

Not really, but it sure looks like him :)
o wow

77%

dontleave
08-02-2007, 12:27 PM
86% I forgot you haven't played Hl2 have you? And I missed Breen, they're in the checkpoint at 2:24 they get to the stairs at 3:24 and the first zombie didn't not look like Breen at all.

Unless my timer is screwed up for the video.
nvm it was 90 when i finished

squerl
08-02-2007, 12:28 PM
Ok..

What the fuck? Who runs around staring at the floor? First day Counter-Strike players, sometimes. That just gave me a headache throughout the entire thing.

Things I noticed: Is the smoker smoke green or was that just weird video capture stuff?

-New: Changes to 3rd person view while bandaging.
-New: Checkpoint doors used to just be really simple red doors, now they're REALLY sweet looking.

Around 4:00 when the guy gets puked on, is that what causes the guy's icon to start flashing red on the bottom? With the letters IT or something.

Ugh such a headache, but can't complain about video.

Deek
08-02-2007, 12:28 PM
... attacked a teammate.
... attacked a teammate.
... attacked a teammate.
... attacked a teammate.

roff

I also noticed it went 3rd person when Zoey got clobbered from behind, at 0:39 seconds.

darksora2323
08-02-2007, 12:28 PM
82%
dontleave what are you DLing it for?
to watch it on your cpu? or upload it else where?

dontleave
08-02-2007, 12:31 PM
I download everything of interest. I think the smoke was being illuminated a bit by some light, or maybe gunshots... who knows. Im off to dinner, hopefully nothing interesting happens when I come back

*Gets back, no ones here, 2 months later im informed it was released and everyone was playing it in the time lapse, puts copy of L4D in throat and dies*

darksora2323
08-02-2007, 12:32 PM
so do i but for the people that cant view it on the original websites

94%

DJTricky
08-02-2007, 12:32 PM
Need. NOW! I'm new to the forums and have made a shrine in my closet for Left 4 Dead! Well, not really, but every video of L4D on the net I watch 10 times. I love this one because it is |UNINTERRUPTED| from directing the camera at the people playing! I need this game!! Please let it come out before school starts!

dontleave
08-02-2007, 12:33 PM
Done... haha

darksora2323
08-02-2007, 12:34 PM
OMG NO NO NO DAMN YOUTUBE
it needs to be converted now
this will take longer now

Deek
08-02-2007, 12:35 PM
The bikers hair is silky smoothe.
Yeah, man. The hair animation is quite excellent.

... I'm such a fanboi, it hurts.

The atmosphere seems a hella lot more ... bloody than before. Tons of decorative carnage. Daddy likes.

This vid will live on my desktop next to the PC Gamer San Jose footage. So it is said, so let it be done.

DJTricky
08-02-2007, 12:47 PM
I just noticed, this I think is the first valve game to include ACTUAL LADDER ANIMATIONS!!! WOOHOOO... i think.

Conde
08-02-2007, 12:52 PM
I'M GONNA CHANGE MY PANTS

DJTricky
08-02-2007, 12:57 PM
Hmm, is there going to be more QC footage? Because there are still 2 more days left.

I'M GONNA CHANGE MY PANTS

Did you wet 'em because of all the zombies, or because of the video itself?

Plankie
08-02-2007, 01:00 PM
I just noticed, this I think is the first valve game to include ACTUAL LADDER ANIMATIONS!!! WOOHOOO... i think.

Amen to that.

darksora2323
08-02-2007, 01:00 PM
did caboose from our forums go?
cause there is someone in the video who has the name caboose

iRelentless
08-02-2007, 01:02 PM
Any game which can stay at that level of leetness, even in a video where some people don't seem to have even read the wikipedia article, let alone any other information... is absolutely epic!

darksora2323
08-02-2007, 01:04 PM
uploading to youtube now

Punisher 36O
08-02-2007, 01:07 PM
uploading to youtube now

under what name?

:D great vid they have polished it off quite a bit aready i think, looks alot sweeter than
some of the erly footage.

darksora2323
08-02-2007, 01:12 PM
under what name?

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=darksora2323


60%

Plankie
08-02-2007, 01:13 PM
o.O is that smoke coming from the gun at 5:07?

darksora2323
08-02-2007, 01:15 PM
o.O is that smoke coming from the gun at 5:07?

yes sir

90%

darksora2323
08-02-2007, 01:20 PM
ok its processing
probably be ready in 10min
keep checking my videos for an update

iRelentless
08-02-2007, 01:35 PM
I just finished downloading it, and for anyone who wants to see it in all its almost 1280px wide glory, I highly recommend the download. It's definitely worth it. :D

darksora2323
08-02-2007, 01:37 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1TgufaRaak

No Shelter
08-02-2007, 01:38 PM
What the fuck? Who runs around staring at the floor? First day Counter-Strike players, sometimes. That just gave me a headache throughout the entire thing.

I agree, looks like my dads filming.

And dontleave you thought they would put some hard rock into the game? lol.. silly boy.

hool10
08-02-2007, 01:43 PM
Sweet long video! October for sure.

darksora2323
08-02-2007, 01:44 PM
Sweet long video! October for sure.
did you read the other topic?
he said 08


also the video quailty isnt that great but if you really want to see it in HD download it

can someone post it on the steam forums?

No Shelter
08-02-2007, 01:47 PM
Sweet long video! October for sure.

lol.. check the other thread.. its early '08 buddy.

maaatt
08-02-2007, 01:53 PM
those guys that were playing were so crap and they got blocked in the vents LOL! and the zombies seem harder to die now hmmm musta set it to normal thats why but it looks finished to me i guess they havent finished making other maps :X i was hopeing he was gonna pick up the hunting rifle <3 also did you see the ladder animation and the when they open the door they actually move there hands to open it omg best steam game ever enough said :P ill give it 1 more month till release :D there also must be another half to this cause how it ends lol! xD i cant stop watching it ^^

Etheallmighty
08-02-2007, 01:57 PM
I just finished downloading it, and for anyone who wants to see it in all its almost 1280px wide glory, I highly recommend the download. It's definitely worth it. :D


how to u download it besides just watching it on the page, i don't see the dload(for saveas) thing anywhere.

Etheallmighty
08-02-2007, 02:00 PM
well if I could go, I'd go every day, play pretty much the whole time....there would be hour long vids from me, filming me play, and I'd just sit there and watch other people play and film also.

Chronos
08-02-2007, 02:01 PM
Ugh that video is terrible. I want real footage of people who actually know how to crouch. Goddamnit. Enough with these camera recorded videos with stupid noises in the background.

maaatt
08-02-2007, 02:02 PM
i totally agree Chronos

Psyche
08-02-2007, 02:02 PM
Delicous Delicous footage DLING NAO.

darksora2323
08-02-2007, 02:07 PM
how to u download it besides just watching it on the page, i don't see the dload(for saveas) thing anywhere.

go to the second link

Deadly
08-02-2007, 02:10 PM
it just ends, which sucks. and why cant i see the ammo? is it like that for everone else?

and if the game is done it will be another month or two because of valve time.

maybe thats why mike booth always says when its done in the emails!

but still pretty good vid. liked the doos

Chronos
08-02-2007, 02:22 PM
K nevermind the video actually looks good when you download it. The background noise is still very annoying and the guys playing are HORRID.

Antman
08-02-2007, 02:22 PM
nooo... i cant watch it... it will take hours for me to download even when i am not capped... is there gonna be a write-up on it?

dontleave
08-02-2007, 02:30 PM
Actually, its a TRS game... So Valve still phails in regards to decent ladder animations.

And lol, there IS a caboos, oddly enough theres another caboos in a different forum I frequent.

The dynamic flash lighting still is awesome

also if u notice, when the merits window pops up the map is chaning, either they cut it or it was really fast lol

darksora2323
08-02-2007, 02:33 PM
And lol, there IS a caboos, oddly enough theres another caboos in a different forum I frequent
indeed
did he say he was going?

iRelentless
08-02-2007, 02:33 PM
And lol, there IS a caboos, oddly enough theres another caboos in a different forum I frequent
The name usually comes from reds vs. blues with people I know. It's quite a common name like you semi-said.

asu
08-02-2007, 02:57 PM
HOLY BANANA, they play like total retards. Still, the game looks amazing!!!
Wish they had taken the sniper rifle though...

Etheallmighty
08-02-2007, 03:13 PM
yeah why does it just end all of a sudden< i'd film every secondof gameplay If i were there, whether it be me playing or someone else!!!!........actually I really like how the first zombie dies in the street, just slowly falls backwards lol! the red doors look sweet, the healing animation looks sweet, u can really see how good the graphics are with a true HD video. also it was cool, when the guy rushes down the subway towards the smoke and a hunter just jups across the screen....also

*somehitng that has changed is
-in the showdownlan vids (the one where they r on the roof of the hospital) u can see lots or red blood on the screen when he gets hit/kills a zombie from point blank, now (as u can see from the up close zombie on the street part towards the start) it's just some scattered black kinda lookin specs, but it looks cool ,kind of gears of war-like.

asu
08-02-2007, 03:29 PM
some tiny thing I noticed: When the Uzi shoots very fast it sometimes looks like the bullets would come from underneath the gun itself... :\
Hopefully TRS will fix this. Also the flashlight still shines through the hands of the Survivors.

CrossSilver
08-02-2007, 03:43 PM
Im downloading the video now already how long is the video?
nvm i know it already. 5.32min

Schizam
08-02-2007, 04:15 PM
Whats dynamic lighting?

Great video, players sucked but the game still looked sweet. Kind of weird but cool how it goes to 3rd person for the bandaging. I wish they would have kept the shotgun though.

hool10
08-02-2007, 04:16 PM
What did the merits mean in the video? I think I know what they mean but what does &quot;security failure&quot; and the hand mean? What do the blue icons mean? I know that you killed regular zombies, hunters, smokers, tanks, witches. There is a fourth one though. *Dynamic lighting is dynamic light lol. It just looks more real. If you want to really see DX10 in action, just look at some Crysis videos: URL (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/9882.html) When that light ball goes through that room, it casts real time shadows. The shadows are also not black blotches creeping aroung either, it looks more like shadows. There is motion blur when the characted turns fast it blurs just a tad. The fire looks like DX10 with the ash and smoke at the top of the flames. URL (http://www.gametrailers.com/gamepage.php?fs=1&id=2509)

CrossSilver
08-02-2007, 04:30 PM
&quot;security failure&quot;
I think it means not closing the checkpoint door in time and allowing zombies to enter

dontleave
08-02-2007, 04:32 PM
I think it means not closing the checkpoint door in time and allowing zombies to enter

That makes more sense, but I got the impression that the zombie in the checkpoint was already in there, unless there was another way in, because there were still people coming in when it started attacking...unless it slipped entirely passed, in that case I would have to wonder why it didn't attack anyone else...


As for the blue icons on the top of the merits page, it goes from normal infected, smoker, boomer, hunter, witch and finally tank. I think the yellow icons are stuff you did on your own, because it says self tongue stop, the green are stuff you did in regards to teamwork and red are demerits.

Still impressed with the visuals all in all.

<div class="quote"><div class="quoting">Quoting: asu;]some tiny thing I noticed: When the Uzi shoots very fast it sometimes looks like the bullets would come from underneath the gun itself... :\
Hopefully TRS will fix this. Also the flashlight still shines through the hands of the Survivors.[/QUOTE]

I don't care much about the flashlight, but the reason its coming from under the gun is I assume, like with MOST source FPS' bullets come from the center of the character, meaning the uzi is just misalligned with the models center. THe only exception to this so far is Insurgency when the bullets actual emerge from the tip of the barrel.

Also, thats a lot of ammo, when you look over on a weapon it shows you how much ammo there is, I think he looked at something and it said 590, and an Uzi had 480.

There's also a couple map discrepencies inbetween checkpoints, as I mentioned in the other topic.

Schizam
08-02-2007, 05:14 PM
Only flashlight casts dynamic shadows... I think... it means the shadows move dependingo n the angle you shine the flashlight at it... it's really good stuff. I dont see why L4D cant do with static lighting, considering its almost always dark except for the flashlight, hence the shadow casting. It'd be nice by final release, since its now... supposedly months away, that they work on full dynamic lighting... and when we play through that map we can expect to see that light bulb swinging and shadows being cast on everything... One can dream though.

Ah thanks, just wasnt sure.


Also, WHO WOULDNT HAVE PICKED UP THE SNIPER RIFLE!?!?

squerl
08-02-2007, 05:22 PM
Wow, the fire looks really good.. is it anywhere else other than around :30?

darksora2323
08-02-2007, 05:23 PM
Also, WHO WOULDNT HAVE PICKED UP THE SNIPER RIFLE!?!?

me because it has a slow ROF

The One
08-02-2007, 05:24 PM
is that a Gargoyle statue in the top right corner? At exactly 1:00 in the videO?

Edit: OMG THESE PEOPLE SUCK ASS IN THE GAME!!!!

squerl
08-02-2007, 05:27 PM
is that a Gargoyle statue in the top right corner? At exactly 1:00 in the videO?

Can't see it..

I think the flashlight looks really good from first person, but it's kind of a bummer that the other player flashlights look pooey. I'm guessing that would be because having two different dynamic sources would mean if they overlap it'd be a lot more processing? Not sure, but it'd be cool if we'd at least be given the option instead of looking at those crappy light looking things (since we'll be using flashlights like all the time)..

The One
08-02-2007, 05:28 PM
Can't see it..
Its at the top right, big red statue. Cant miss it, its at 1:00 in the video

No Shelter
08-02-2007, 05:32 PM
A tree?

squerl
08-02-2007, 05:32 PM
Only red thing I see is the leaves of a tree.

Teh Swat
08-02-2007, 06:14 PM
It's an oak tree.

But yeah, kinda gives the appearance of a menacing statue.

dontleave
08-02-2007, 06:42 PM
t's an oak tree.

But yeah, kinda gives the appearance of a menacing statue.

I thought it was a huge mass of flesh... Guess I've been playing too much, whatever game has a huge mass of flesh at the side of the street.

Hope that's not all... someone else must've played L4D. Is it to much to ask someone NOT to cut footage damnit...

Antman
08-02-2007, 06:46 PM
is there gonna be a write-up on it for us who have crap internet connections? lol

dontleave
08-02-2007, 06:48 PM
I expect Frog or Squirrel to do an analysis soon like they did with the other videos... Amiright?

Chronos
08-02-2007, 07:43 PM
One major thing I've noticed so far is that your teammates get a green aura when they're in trouble. I've also noticed the 'window of opportunity' when getting tongue-grabbed. It's just that none of them realized they were getting grabbed. They thought they were stuck from the looks of it. Especially at the end. Louis gets grabbed, snagged on the ticket booth choking, vomitted on and surrounded by zombies. Zoey jumps in to save him. He's at about 20 health (with 10 of it poisoned) and a hunter went crazy assassination style jumping everywhere trying to knock off the rest of Louis' health before dying.

Safety_Man
08-02-2007, 08:19 PM
Wow! With every single video, I become more and more impressed with this game. The subway station and clothing store just make the game feel so immersive.

Plus, the new fire decals are just plain ridiculous! I'm so excited, and I just can't hide it.

Another thing. At about 5:26 when Zoey jumps over the turnstile, can you see her feet in the air?

BigFinger
08-02-2007, 08:19 PM
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dontleave
08-02-2007, 08:26 PM
Wow! With every single video, I become more and more impressed with this game. The subway station and clothing store just make the game feel so immersive.

Plus, the new fire decals are just plain ridiculous! I'm so excited, and I just can't hide it.

Another thing. At about 5:26 when Zoey jumps over the turnstile, can you see her feet in the air?

I think that's her shadow, but you can see her feet anyhow... Full body awareness and all. And im pretty sure it was a sweat shop, and they were killing little asian zombies.

No Shelter
08-02-2007, 08:35 PM
We seem to only see all these new members when new media comes! lol

dontleave
08-02-2007, 08:39 PM
Yep atleast 30-40 new members since... not bad

Tono_Tako
08-02-2007, 08:48 PM
youtube link
http://youtube.com/watch?v=qiPwk8KtzzU

InfectedToy
08-02-2007, 09:10 PM
Absolutley amazing. I laughed when they had trouble going throught the vent.

Chronos
08-02-2007, 09:37 PM
Absolutley amazing. I laughed when they had trouble going throught the vent.
Yeah. Whoever was playing Louis literally didn't know there was a crouch button. Every video we've seen (aside form the G4 one) was horrible players who didn't know anything about the game.

dontleave
08-02-2007, 09:43 PM
I'd pwn all of them... Us CS vets know to crouch in vents sooner than you non-CS vets learn to use a toilet.

Chronos
08-02-2007, 10:08 PM
I'd pwn all of them... Us CS vets know to crouch in vents sooner than you non-CS vets learn to use a toilet.
CS and TFC were my first online games. Back in 1999 or 2000. CS 1.3 and Half-Life 1.0.0.8.

dontleave
08-02-2007, 10:14 PM
Never played HL1, went straigh to Sven Co-op with some friends, fun times.

Shrubberyjsc
08-02-2007, 10:56 PM
Wow, for a while I thought that I'd not like to see more media without a release date,

but

Oh. My. God.

That revealed so many cool things. Yes, the players sucked, but the game looks amazing.

I take back all my frustration over no release date. They are polishing this one up nicely!

When it is released, there will be no comparisons.

=D

QuotidianTemerity
08-02-2007, 11:35 PM
I take back all my frustration over no release date. They are polishing this one up nicely!

Err. The estimated release date has been announced.
February 08.

dummiesday
08-02-2007, 11:41 PM
Err. The estimated release date has been announced.
February 08.


Not that I don't believe you (it was more or less what I had in mind), but could you provide a link, please? Just to have some first hand information :)

QuotidianTemerity
08-03-2007, 12:10 AM
Hey folks, sorry for the delay, internet is a bit tricky around here. It'll be up and down for no reason. I talked to Jerry Bennett for most of the interview. I will post the whole interview later, I'll head back tomorrow and talk to Erik Johnson.

I'm going to post tid-bits of the interview and not the whole thing, but mostly y'all will get the juicy stuff. I'll save a few random parts for a feature on HLF, a site where I actually work at.

Highlights-
&quot;In the polishing phase&quot; however they are aiming at a early 08 release

He didnt seem really concerned with the netcode, I guess with their background with CSS bots. He also added they have guys at home who are testing it that way.

Maps will follow the release of the game. I'll see if I can upload some pictures, though my friend is AFK atm.

dummiesday
08-03-2007, 12:19 AM
Thanks, I had already seen that post and I didn't think he had specified the month.

Anyway... Sad news indeed, I'm sure that had he said the game would be released in November the forum would be bustling with activity. I guess we need some time to take the hit :/

BigFinger
08-03-2007, 12:19 AM
top class vid nice to some new footage at last, its clearly the 360 version though .which explains the general turdiness of thier game play.

wonder if we will be treated to some proper pc footage.



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Kjeldoran
08-03-2007, 12:26 AM
, its clearly the 360 version though .which explains the general turdiness of thier game play.

Its the PC version, they are just not good.

Etheallmighty
08-03-2007, 12:28 AM
yeash seriously idk if u were joking or not but DON&quot;T START

Graf Irrationale Zahl
08-03-2007, 12:36 AM
We seem to only see all these new members when new media comes! lol

... some of us are visiting this forum without posting ... since a while ;)

Etheallmighty
08-03-2007, 12:40 AM
I love the count

left 4 dead.....4 DEAD!!! Ah Ah Ah!!!!
left 5 dead.....5 DEAD!!! Ah Ah Ah!!!!

BigFinger
08-03-2007, 12:46 AM
Its the PC version, they are just not good.

im not out to start the oldest of all arguments i only say its clearly the console ver because.

the movements crosshair movements are mainly horizontal and vertical with no fine control which would indicate mouse movement.

the turdiness of the play may be due to an unfamiliar button config..... WASD etc is common across the pc fps genre and people wound not have the trouble controlling their character with that familiar layout.

any new footage is good footage pc or console...



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squerl
08-03-2007, 01:15 AM
While I understand completely what led you to believe it's a console version (the player having no ability whatsoever to aim or look at what he should be), it is the PC version that they're playing!

Graf Irrationale Zahl
08-03-2007, 01:15 AM
I love the count

He is the most vicious mathematician after Sir Isaac Newton.

Do you guys think the Award-Demerits/Faults-System will work without the possibility to abuse it?

security failure:
I guess a player gets this demerit if he is the closest to the red door and a zombie is entering the safe room (1:54-2:01Zoey opening the door and entering the room, 2:02-2:10 Louis gets 5 security failures is the closest to the door (you can see him at 2:06).
possible problem:
- Player A opens the door and gets in. Player B is behind him and notices that zombies are charging player A. B is closest to the door so he steps back and Player C (who was standing behind B) gets the demerit even if he was e.g. looking in a different direction.

friendly fire/reckless:
Player getting ff-demerits if they hit other player (red symbol with crosshair and human shape, timeindex 2:13 Bill).
Player getting reckless-demerits if they step into someone elses fire (red symbol with hand, timeindex 2:13 Louis)
possible problem:
- Player A is static and 10 feet away from the moving Player B. A shoots B in the back, ff and/or reckless ? (You can see that it is possible to get 2 or more demerts per action (Bill shoots Boomer and gets ff- and boomer-demerit, 1:22)).
- Player A is static and 50 feet away from the moving Player B. A shoots B in the back, ff and/or reckless ?
- Player A is static, shooting but moving his aim from left to right. Player B is moving and crosses his line of fire from right to left ...

or other things like:
A jumping into the fire of a molotov cocktail of B.
A blocking B in a room after B has lighted his pipebomb (don't know if player can put out the fuse).
TAs and TKs playing with their friends on their servers and provoking situations where they easily can get awards (reputation is permament!).
a.s.o.


... I really love the idea of a reputation system that stops player from disturbing the fun of others but it would be horroble if payer could abuse the system to &quot;blame&quot; others or to build up a false reputation.

m4stryfe
08-03-2007, 02:05 AM
Much better site to download from (no need for registration)

http://files.filefront.com/Left+4+Dead+HD+QuakeCon +Footage/;8212707;/fileinfo.html (http://files.filefront.com/Left+4+Dead+HD+QuakeCon+Footage/;8212707;/fileinfo.html)

Downloading now...

BigFinger
08-03-2007, 02:13 AM
While I understand completely what led you to believe it's a console version (the player having no ability whatsoever to aim or look at what he should be), it is the PC version that they're playing!

if thats true then its a console player playing it on a pc... ive never seen movement like that on any pc with a mouse. and the 360 version is supposed to be there at quakecon too.

anyone know how we could settle this argument is there somewhere confirming how this vid was taken ?



.

engagequadlaser
08-03-2007, 02:36 AM
if thats true then its a console player playing it on a pc... ive never seen movement like that on any pc with a mouse. and the 360 version is supposed to be there at quakecon too.

anyone know how we could settle this argument is there somewhere confirming how this vid was taken ?

Why are you so obsessed?

Halfeatendonkey
08-03-2007, 03:02 AM
I just have to say, OH MY GOD! That was Soo cool,exciting and intense. the fire was So amazing and the blood is very cool ! The players were über sucky but its ok. Tho, one thing that bothers me abit is...Release 08... *sighs* i know this is like the first well made &quot;Zombie&quot; outbrake game but still...08..if it was 2006 now and it would release 07 it would've been Ok But now its 07 and new games are coming. ETC - Crysis,Ep2, Assasins creed...Crysis in November 07...These games make L4D look like Last year. My point is that it would have been good if they had came up with the idea a little erlier or another release date. But, it is infact the first good looking Zombie game AND with the Source engine which makes it easy to map,mod,skin etc This shit will rock my sox but my brother still complains...i need a couple of you to help me kill him ! Thanks - Challe

Plankie
08-03-2007, 03:25 AM
This shit will rock my sox but my brother still complains...i need a couple of you to help me kill him !

Let him complain. It's only he who will miss out on all the fun when the game is released. He probably just complains to bother you, anyway.

Halfeatendonkey
08-03-2007, 03:41 AM
Let him complain. It's only he who will miss out on all the fun when the game is released. He probably just complains to bother you, anyway.
Yee you'll prolly right...but he better get nicer to me or else ! i am the only one who will be able to run Crysis with Dx10 and with a decent Fps on atleast medium when its out in this house,he said not asked,Said that he would play the game on my computer. And Crysis for him is the best game ever. I will get a 8800 Gtx Dx10 OC 768mb's Graphic's card soon. <-- the only missing part from a Kick ass Computer ! 2 gig ram, a kickazz Processor (Dont know if thats the right word in English) on 2.41Ghz Duel core, Switching between Creatives G15 and another gaming Keyboard, a broken gaming headset,20&quot; LCD Screen thingy and a 1 year old mouse. (Some of the Computer parts may be spelled wrong because i dont know how to spell some of them right, in english. so if you dont understand just guess xD)

BigFinger
08-03-2007, 03:44 AM
Why are you so obsessed?

not really that bothered.

but if its console and we see a pc one too we can while away the months untill release by comparing the footage and having pointless forum arguments about reload animations dx versions resolutions hardware specs etc etc.

so in short im just killing time like the rest of us till i can kill some infected.

.

The One
08-03-2007, 04:45 AM
im not out to start the oldest of all arguments i only say its clearly the console ver because.

the movements crosshair movements are mainly horizontal and vertical with no fine control which would indicate mouse movement.

the turdiness of the play may be due to an unfamiliar button config..... WASD etc is common across the pc fps genre and people wound not have the trouble controlling their character with that familiar layout.

Dude, if your a console player you can do just as well as you can on a PC. If you think that its hard for the controls and thumbsticks to move the camera and such, then I'm sorry to say but its just that you suck. :P Seriously though if you can work a console you can do just as well as the PC

Punisher 36O
08-03-2007, 04:47 AM
if you can work a console you can do just as well as the PC

agreed, pretty sure who ever is playing is just crap.

No Shelter
08-03-2007, 04:52 AM
Heres my email, guys its the damn PC version.

Hey there Adam.



We're showing the PC version at QuakeCon.



The playtest on G4TV was live during the interview (5 other people from Turtle Rock were playing just off camera).



New media will be coming. We have a lot left to show.



Michael Booth

CEO

Turtle Rock Studios

http://www.turtlerockstudios.com

kliziflip15
08-03-2007, 04:54 AM
Much better site to download from (no need for registration)

http://files.filefront.com/Left+4+Dead+HD+QuakeCon (http://files.filefront.com/Left+4+Dead+HD+QuakeCon) +Footage/;8212707;/fileinfo.html

Downloading now...
thank you man, I couldn´t download from that shity sight even when I registered cause it said pop-up blocked it. real thanks

dontleave
08-03-2007, 05:13 AM
Someone post more footage... im bored.

The One
08-03-2007, 05:17 AM
I swear, I keep watching that video and it just looks like a Gargoyle Statue instead of a tree. I swear the face and all is right there.

dontleave
08-03-2007, 05:18 AM
Download it yet? You can set it to full screen and its much better.

The One
08-03-2007, 05:24 AM
Download it yet? You can set it to full screen and its much better.
I havent downloaded it yet, my computer keeps crashing on the download. Everytime I download it my computer will go stupid and have the download freeze, then I have to wait five minutes for everything to un-freeze, then I go back to the website and start over but I'll only get ahead by 1% everytime I do it...... So I gave up... But is it really that much better? and how long is the VId?

Punisher 36O
08-03-2007, 05:24 AM
i think some one should tell the guys over at the official Steam forum that its kinda not coming out in 07. i would but i cant post on there, they need to be told. . . some of them are still hopeing it will be out in August

dontleave
08-03-2007, 05:28 AM
Who the hell cares, most of them are retarded any way, in the most literal sense of the word. Leave them in their ignorance, they'll only be more depressed when August ends.

The One
08-03-2007, 05:35 AM
You know what you guys? This is a really depressing day for me... I was expecting August...... now I have to wait another set of months?! Oh well, I have the HD footage, haha I'll plug in my control stick to the computer, play the movie, and pretend I'm playing the game :P

QuotidianTemerity
08-03-2007, 05:36 AM
I just spotted a small typo.

When a hunter lunges into a player, a hint appears conveying the following:

&quot;A Hunter lunged in to you!&quot;

Clearly it should be &quot;A Hunter lunged into you!&quot;


/deactivating anal mode

The One
08-03-2007, 05:38 AM
Clearly it should be &quot;A Hunter lunged into you!&quot;
Would it have to be &quot;Onto&quot; or whatever the hell you spell it, instead of &quot;Into&quot; you?

QuotidianTemerity
08-03-2007, 05:39 AM
No, &quot;into&quot;'s the word.

Dang, I've watched the HD version almost 10 times now.

dontleave
08-03-2007, 05:41 AM
&quot;A Hunter lunged in to you!&quot;

Yeah, zombies like that kinky shit.

QuotidianTemerity
08-03-2007, 05:43 AM
Yeah, zombies like that kinky shit.

EXACTLY what I thought when I saw it >_<

The One
08-03-2007, 05:43 AM
No, &quot;into&quot;'s the word.
No I mean cause &quot;Into&quot; is going in something, and I doubt the hunter will do that. So thats why I said &quot;Onto&quot; because the Hunter would lunge &quot;On&quot; you instead of &quot;In&quot; you.

/Smart Ass off..

QuotidianTemerity
08-03-2007, 05:44 AM
Err. Wrong.

Take, for example, Latch.


&quot;A headcrab latches onto you&quot;.
That works out fine.
Now, try saying &quot;A Hunter lunged onto you.&quot; It won't work.

&quot;This guy jumped INTO me&quot;
&quot;This guy jumped ONTO me&quot;

The One
08-03-2007, 05:47 AM
Ahhh, I see now. Its one of those things that just doesnt sound right. Damn...

Lets stick with the into

Edit: Onto, into, onto, into... After saying &quot;The Hunter Lunged onto me&quot; like 10 damn times, it starts to sound right. But maybe its cause I'm repeating it so much :P

QuotidianTemerity
08-03-2007, 05:54 AM
Edit: Onto, into, onto, into... After saying &quot;The Hunter Lunged onto me&quot; like 10 damn times, it starts to sound right. But maybe its cause I'm repeating it so much :P

When the hunter latches onto the player, it works.

The One
08-03-2007, 05:55 AM
When the hunter latches onto the player, it works.
Thanks man, really now I wont feel like an idiot every time I say it now. :P

It just might be the fact that I'm saying it to many times thats why :P

dontleave
08-03-2007, 05:57 AM
Just realized, this means you can get up after Hunter tackles if your not bleeding... remember the fuss about that lol..

Also you get the green shield icon for doing so.

Lolerskates
08-03-2007, 06:00 AM
this sucked. Didn't even get to the good part.

Zombie Ade
08-03-2007, 06:32 AM
Only just read this news an hour ago - still downloading video - 87%
Can`t wait to see it, will have to make do with this until Feb now. :(

dontleave
08-03-2007, 06:33 AM
So what time are they letting people in again so we can see more footage.

BigFinger
08-03-2007, 07:38 AM
Dude, if your a console player you can do just as well as you can on a PC. If you think that its hard for the controls and thumbsticks to move the camera and such, then I'm sorry to say but its just that you suck. :P Seriously though if you can work a console you can do just as well as the PC


bollocks ! if it were possible (which it issnt) i would play cod or bf against any console player and as a handicap to give em a chance i would conceed to be pissed as a rat using my cock to press the WASD keys and i would beat them so bad they would cry on their own emo blogs till they grew pubes ;)

anyway that opening the argument that will never be settled till the bin autoaim and produce a cross platform fps.

eithway crap as they clearly are console of pc version they played it and we havvnt :(

QuotidianTemerity
08-03-2007, 07:50 AM
Dude, if you

suck

bollocks

so bad

INTO me

>_<

i

like that kinky shit.










anyway

Psyche
08-03-2007, 07:54 AM
Right now I am uploading a less choppy AVI version, bigger file but runs smoother.

m4stryfe
08-03-2007, 08:04 AM
thank you man, I couldn´t download from that shity sight even when I registered cause it said pop-up blocked it. real thanks

No problem man. I use filefront for everything - WoW update patches, new vids etc.

Lolerskates
08-03-2007, 08:48 AM
cross platform fps.

ewwwwwwwwwww

The One
08-03-2007, 08:54 AM
bollocks ! if it were possible (which it issnt) i would play cod or bf against any console player and as a handicap to give em a chance i would conceed to be pissed as a rat using my cock to press the WASD keys and i would beat them so bad they would cry on their own emo blogs till they grew pubes ;)
No, if you think that then Like I said, you just cant play a console worth shit. Which earns you the right to be named....... Noob.
Quoting: The One
Dude, if you

Quoting: The One
suck

Quoting: BigFinger
bollocks

Quoting: BigFinger
so bad

Quoting: QuotidianTemerity
INTO me

Quoting: QuotidianTemerity
>_<

Quoting: dontleave
i

Quoting: dontleave
like that kinky shit.










Quoting: BigFinger
anyway
Roflmfao!!!!!!!!!!

darksora2323
08-03-2007, 09:02 AM
score one for Quotidain

Chronos
08-03-2007, 09:07 AM
2 pages back but...

BigFinger, if it was the xbox version (which it totally isn't because it probably isn't even in a playable state yet) explain to all of us how they had enough time to change their names and then that one guy editing his name in the checkpoint.

The One
08-03-2007, 09:08 AM
What?

squerl
08-03-2007, 09:09 AM
It was the PC version.

QuotidianTemerity
08-03-2007, 09:52 AM
2 pages back but...

BigFinger, if it was the xbox version (which it totally isn't because it probably isn't even in a playable state yet) explain to all of us how they had enough time to change their names and then that one guy editing his name in the checkpoint.


Better yet, it's impossible to change XBL aliases. IE, you can't actually change your moniker whatsoever on the 360.

Lolerskates
08-03-2007, 10:10 AM
Oh, you can play a console as well or better than a pc if you're good enough at it? Nope. And in the cases you can, it's only for a few genres, fps and rts not included.

BigFinger
08-03-2007, 10:13 AM
score one for Quotidain

i second that !

dare i say it ?

ROFLCOPTER !!!!

.

Sandman77
08-03-2007, 10:42 AM
Looks good

Punisher 36O
08-03-2007, 10:59 AM
Oh, you can play a console as well or better than a pc if you're good enough at it? Nope. And in the cases you can, it's only for a few genres, fps and rts not included

look, anyone who say this kinda stuff are so full of S*%$, there is more to FPS games than the reaction times of the controles, the fact is it is all about how the person plays them. for anyone who is completly closed minded and says PC = pro and console = noob are just wrong, i play both and have seen equaly crap players on both. im sure when the platform walls drop it will all be clear to these ppl. untill then remember that its harder to be as good with a pad in ya hand but very possible. i can also safly it will be easier to play L4D on xbox live than on PC, mainly because almost everyone has a mic and its less full of players that play just to piss you off or want to prove how mint they are at this map (counterstrike flash back) PCs are beter in so manny ways but one it will never be is more user friendly than put the disk in and play with ppl you kno arnt teamkilling idiots!

any new QC stuff? :D

MrToodles
08-03-2007, 12:12 PM
I dunno about you guys, but I think the ammunition pile looks like a lot of candy.

darksora2323
08-03-2007, 12:27 PM
I dunno about you guys, but I think the ammunition pile looks like a lot of candy.

i swear i didnt know what the hell that was lol

dontleave
08-03-2007, 12:40 PM
look, anyone who say this kinda stuff are so full of S*%$, there is more to FPS games than the reaction times of the controles, the fact is it is all about how the person plays them. for anyone who is completly closed minded and says PC = pro and console = noob are just wrong, i play both and have seen equaly crap players on both. im sure when the platform walls drop it will all be clear to these ppl. untill then remember that its harder to be as good with a pad in ya hand but very possible. i can also safly it will be easier to play L4D on xbox live than on PC, mainly because almost everyone has a mic and its less full of players that play just to piss you off or want to prove how mint they are at this map (counterstrike flash back) PCs are beter in so manny ways but one it will never be is more user friendly than put the disk in and play with ppl you kno arnt teamkilling idiots!

Lol, its hardly a matter of seeing equally crappy players... It's whether or not the top players on both consoles share the same level of skill... I doubt they will. There is nothing else to FPS' than reaction time, aside from aim... but if you have exceptional reaction time it'll hardly matter... unless you completely suck at aiming an couldn't hit a wall at 800x600.

Trust me too, I've played MANY FPS' of course it depends on the type, like CS:S is generally a lot more CQB than say BF2, and in that case aim usually takes priority... And in games like SWAT and even R6, where you barely have any health, reaction time is key.

Edz
08-03-2007, 12:42 PM
A pc gamer would pwn a console gamer on any fps...

Armored_Zombie_Cow
08-03-2007, 12:47 PM
2008?!?!?! FUCK!

iRelentless
08-03-2007, 12:53 PM
I dunno about you guys, but I think the ammunition pile looks like a lot of candy.
Its a well known fact that candy can alleviate any small wound during a zombie invasion. :P

Plankie
08-03-2007, 12:55 PM
I dunno about you guys, but I think the ammunition pile looks like a lot of candy.


haha, that's what I basically thought too. When they entered that room I didn't realize it was a checkpoint until the map changed. I thought it was some rubbish or something. I later saw that there were bullets and stuff there.

Armored_Zombie_Cow
08-03-2007, 12:59 PM
why is no1 complaining bout the release date? im really mad now, i was hoping for at the very latest, like early december!

anyway, i didnt read all 6 pages but music in backround is Hangar 18 by Megadeth, on Guitar Hero 2: most likely some ppl were playing the game somewhere nearby

Chronos
08-03-2007, 12:59 PM
ook, anyone who say this kinda stuff are so full of S*%$, there is more to FPS games than the reaction times of the controles, the fact is it is all about how the person plays them. for anyone who is completly closed minded and says PC = pro and console = noob are just wrong, i play both and have seen equaly crap players on both. im sure when the platform walls drop it will all be clear to these ppl. untill then remember that its harder to be as good with a pad in ya hand but very possible. i can also safly it will be easier to play L4D on xbox live than on PC, mainly because almost everyone has a mic and its less full of players that play just to piss you off or want to prove how mint they are at this map (counterstrike flash back) PCs are beter in so manny ways but one it will never be is more user friendly than put the disk in and play with ppl you kno arnt teamkilling idiots!
I have both as well. PC = Pro, Console = Noobs. It's pretty clear. Consoler's generally have no PC knowledge and think their console's more powerful then a computer. They also think joysticks are better than a mouse and keyboard.

Armored_Zombie_Cow
08-03-2007, 01:01 PM
Quoting: Punisher 36Ol
ook, anyone who say this kinda stuff are so full of S*%$, there is more to FPS games than the reaction times of the controles, the fact is it is all about how the person plays them. for anyone who is completly closed minded and says PC = pro and console = noob are just wrong, i play both and have seen equaly crap players on both. im sure when the platform walls drop it will all be clear to these ppl. untill then remember that its harder to be as good with a pad in ya hand but very possible. i can also safly it will be easier to play L4D on xbox live than on PC, mainly because almost everyone has a mic and its less full of players that play just to piss you off or want to prove how mint they are at this map (counterstrike flash back) PCs are beter in so manny ways but one it will never be is more user friendly than put the disk in and play with ppl you kno arnt teamkilling idiots!

N00B

iRelentless
08-03-2007, 01:13 PM
why is no1 complaining bout the release date? im really mad now, i was hoping for at the very latest, like early december!
Because there's no need to bitch. It's a major let down, but at the same time, TRS makes some of the best looking stuff because they spend time making it and thoroughly testing it to find/fix bugs. I'd rather this than an incomplete August release which crippled the game through bad press, even if any bugs were fixed in updates and patches.

I'm confident that this time next year we'll all be glad they waited just because of the sheer quality of the game. But... I'd still jump at the chance to take part in a lengthy beta. Something like 50-100 mature participants split between the 411 and steam boards perhaps.

Punisher 36O
08-03-2007, 01:14 PM
N00B

thanks for proving my piont.

and i do love PC gaming and only a dick wouldnt kno that they are better for games, but its so much easier to buy a game and play it on a console. with PCs its such a fast market its not even funny, 4 months ago i bought a new PC for £1300, i have a Nvidia Gforce 7900GTX, and alread games are out i cant run at full. then if u want to play with friends that have had a game for a while its a few hours of download for a patch. . all time that could be spent playing the god damn game, and like i said there are ppl like zombie cow there who is no dobt a CS player and full of shit. have fun teabaging ppl and calling them noobs, ppl like that are making online games shit

dontleave
08-03-2007, 01:18 PM
You seem to think that patches and installation do nothing for the game... Anywho, I don't think there's any out now that a 7900GTX can't play on full, unless DX10 of course, in which case it can probably play the DX9 version on full.

People like that make online gaming, online gaming... if it was full of tight asses who actually think video gaming skill is something to strive for it'd become a lazy fuckers sport for nerds.

Punisher 36O
08-03-2007, 01:21 PM
You seem to think that patches and installation do nothing for the game... Anywho, I don't think there's any out now that a 7900GTX can't play on full, unless DX10 of course, in which case it can probably play the DX9 version on full.

People like that make online gaming, online gaming... if it was full of tight asses who actually think video gaming skill is something to strive for it'd become a lazy fuckers sport for nerds.

lol, true, but the games are Armed Assault and STALKER, cant run ether full and i can pretty much rule out BioShock and Crysis, i have DX9, and its Overclocked, i couldnt beleive i couldnt run ArmA on Full. so because i cant eford an upgrade right now, i will have to get them for the box,

and my piont remains its so much harder to find a game on the PC where u work as a team, most of the time its about geting a better score than the rest of ur team, all against all team battle kinda shit, L4D will sort them out

Armored_Zombie_Cow
08-03-2007, 01:23 PM
thanks for proving my piont.

was that sarcasm? cuz i was saying u were the noob...sorry, but well, thats how i feel

iRelentless
08-03-2007, 01:24 PM
if it was full of tight asses who actually think video gaming skill is something to strive for it'd become a lazy fuckers sport for nerds.
I think he was suggesting that online gaming can be something in between random crap and elitist pro's .
e.g. Mature gamers who like to have fun and don't start flaming in game every time their KD drops below 1.5, whether the game sorts scores by that or not.


The whole PC vs. Console things been done too much lately, can it just be dropped before it gets out of hand?

dontleave
08-03-2007, 01:24 PM
BioShock and Crysis

Yeah... those are both DX10... Crysis isn't coming for &quot;The Box&quot; though... befitting, since it is the most advanced game out there, quite evolutionary.

Can't say anything about Armed Assault, never tried it or seen it before, except for the Infected Outbreak topic. Stalker ran on high for me, atleast the standard 'high' template that comes in options menu, and this was with a 7900GT... I guess it'd be a difference if I cranked everything up to high but still... Great graphics otherwise. Runs on high too with the 8600GT

Edit: Lol, I love the K:D thing, it's amazing how people try so hard to keep it up... mines naturally over 2:00 in most games that record it... Especially in BF2/2142, because it records...forever... I remember this guy ingame was like, &quot;Fucking KD, get over 2!!&quot; and I had 64 kills and 0 deaths with my friend in a tower just sniping/resupplying.

On BF2142 btw...

Armored_Zombie_Cow
08-03-2007, 01:26 PM
what are we talking about system upgrades? im afraid i wont have the proper system specs to run l4d, and then i will cry lots

dontleave
08-03-2007, 01:27 PM
That being said, wheres the rest of the footage?! I think the SC2 footage is drying up for now, the official media places need time to get footage, no cams allowed. We need someone to get footage!

Please don't tell me L4D was there only for Day 1 at QC

Punisher 36O
08-03-2007, 01:28 PM
... Crysis isn't coming for &quot;The Box&quot; thou

sorry. . .i think it has been anounced for the xbox360 now, i doubt it will look as good. but defo on the way

iRelentless
08-03-2007, 01:32 PM
Please don't tell me L4D was there only for Day 1 at QC
I hope not, I took the &quot;we have a lot to show&quot; (or however it was worded) as meaning a quite a bit of it at quakecon, and that video, however awesome, wasn't enough of &quot;a lot&quot;.

dontleave
08-03-2007, 01:32 PM
Are you kidding me? Where?! That video wasn't from TRS though, I hope TRS make an effort to release their own media and not let third parties do it all the time.

Punisher 36O
08-03-2007, 01:34 PM
im looking right now and i got nothing, lol got a dvd with xbox mag thats got all the stuff about it, i think its all speculation now tho

iRelentless
08-03-2007, 01:36 PM
If that wasn't from TRS, then perhaps there will be an influx in day 3 or from day 2. Unless by &quot;a lot to show&quot; he meant, a lot to show the people actually playing, in the way of updates since last time. lol.

dontleave
08-03-2007, 01:41 PM
If that wasn't from TRS, then perhaps there will be an influx in day 3 or from day 2. Unless by &quot;a lot to show&quot; he meant, a lot to show the people actually playing, in the way of updates since last time. lol.

*slaps head* All hope is lost. Oh well, Quake Wars... its not bad... atleast the Beta plays a helluvalot prettier and smoother on my PC.

No Shelter
08-03-2007, 03:39 PM
Are you kidding me? Where?! That video wasn't from TRS though, I hope TRS make an effort to release their own media and not let third parties do it all the time.

Agreed! Come on TRS!!

Zombie Ade
08-03-2007, 04:09 PM
Looked OK from what I can see, the real thing letting it down is the people playing!
Very frustrating to see someone suck so bad at a game and have to watch.

I want to know why there`s an infected trying to steal a cab? (00:56 - 00:59)

By the way , I am joking, but it sure looks like that! As the player approaches you clearly see the infected run to the cab door, and then appear to smash at the window.
Perhaps he was a cabbie before he got infected.

D_Smid4499
08-03-2007, 04:20 PM
lol, guy in this video was such a noob

Etheallmighty
08-03-2007, 04:55 PM
... Crysis isn't coming for &quot;The Box&quot; thousorry. . .i think it has been anounced for the xbox360 now, i doubt it will look as good. but defo on the way


yeah I just read something the other day on XB360fnby that said they might

MrToodles
08-04-2007, 06:42 AM
I would feel terribly embarresed if I was this player.

Yet it shows, that even the worst of people can jump in and have fun.