My future computer specs, please answer

[Anerkand]

So I am looking for a great, affordable computer and I came across the AlienWare computer systems. I find them sleek, and well made but at the same time I am a complete noob when it comes to hardware.
Please tell me what this computer can do

Windows Vista® Home Premium

Processors, Chipset & Memory AMD® Phenom™ 9950 Black Edition Processor w/ HyperTransport and Quad Core Technology
AMD® 790FX Chipset
4GB Dual Channel DDR2 at 800MHz
4 dedicated SDRAM slots for Dual Channel DDR2 Memory

Graphics & Video Single Graphics Card
512MB ATI® Radeon™ HD 4870
Connectivity
Video Out 2x DVI
With Dual Graphics 4xDVI

Storage Single Hard Drive
250GB 7,200 RPM - 16MB cache
Optical Drives
20x Dual Layer CD-RW/DVD±RW

Networking Wired Connectivity
Dual Integrated Gigabit Ethernet RJ-45
Killer NIC™ K1 Gaming Network Card

Audio 7.1/5.1 Digital High-Definition Audio (8 Channel)
Connectivity Front and Rear
2x Auto-sensing headphone jack
2x Auto-sensing microphone jack

Peripheral Connections 8 Hi-speed USB 2.0 ports
2 IEEE 1394b (9-pin) port – Powered
1 E-SATA port

Case & Chassis Exclusive Alienware chassis design
AlienIce™ 3.0 high-performance cooling
Standard system lighting
Standard AlienFX System Lighting
Standard 750-watt Multi-GPU-approved power supply
Tool-less front and side panels
Height: 19.01"
Width: 9.97"
Depth: 25.02"

[dethklok]

its super major ass computer you can play all the new games in ultra uber high with out a glitch!

[FizixMan]

This computer can do anything and everything.

Hard drive is surprisingly lacking. Though I doubt you'll experience any real performance drop.

[Goldkills]

it will run 90% of games out now fine on high settings, but alienware is not my fav. place to get prebuilt computers IE they charge a ton more for stuff you dont need like the network card. the dual gigabite lan on the motherboard is fine and they dont say if the Motherboard is the X48 chipset and that hard drive they give you is crap for what u would pay for it. but what i would do is look around youtube for some computer building videos and really check if you can build your own computer its the best bang for your buck and its not hard at all.

[Anerkand]

Do you guys know anything about any good prebuilt computers? Preferably under $1,000? I want to play max graphics on Left 4 dead, and several other high end games. Anyone?

[sh1tfacestupidstuff]

So I heard you like Mudkipz?

lolololol, trollllll

Anyways, isn't my brother building you a computer? Be patient you silly little bastard!

[Anerkand]

Anyways, isn't my brother building you a computer? Be patient you silly little bastard

God will smite you
lol

[polkunus]

its super major ass computer you can play all the new games in ultra uber high with out a glitch!


lol, you have no idea wtf you are saying do you? glitch? LOL

[BenKenobi88]

Alienware is the exact opposite of affordable.

If you're happy with whatever price they give you, that's a very good system, minus the hard drive, you're gonna want to upgrade very soon.

I'd definitely, definitely consider finding a tech-savvy friend to help you build a computer though...you can pay him $50 to help...hell, you could pay him $500 to help and you'd end up saving a ton of money and also be able to pick a case that you really like.

[Anerkand]

**FINAL COMPUTER SPECS***

AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000 2.6GHz Socket AM2 65W Dual-Core Processor


Patriot Viper 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400)
Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory



SAMSUNG 22X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe Black SATA Model SH-S223Q



SAMSUNG 933BW High Glossy Black 19" 5ms Widescreen LCD Monitor


Microsoft Black Basic Keyboard and Mouse


ASUS M3A78 Pro ATX AMD Motherboard



CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W Power Supply

XION II XON-101 Black Computer Case With Side Panel Window


SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 4870 100259-1GL Video Card


Western Digital Caviar SE16 500GB 3.5" SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive


Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1



THESE ARE COMPONETS, The computer will be made, I need to know how good these pieces will be :)

[Grieverlionhart]

Dual Core = I can run alotta shit, good times

[Anerkand]

Dual Core = I can run alotta shit, good times


Overall good?
Could these pieces make a kickass computer?

[Goldkills]

i would just get a Phenom 2 x4 the mobo you picked can use it
but why AMD the cash you where going to shell out for that computer in the OP i would just get a really good intel quad core and a GTX 285/280

i can put a list together just list how much you willing to spend

[gehn6]

So I am looking for a great, affordable computer and I came across the AlienWare computer systems.

This made me lol. affordable and alienware in the same sentence, classic.

Killer NIC™ K1 Gaming Network Card

Did you know that is $150 on its own?

[G_X]

Left 4 dead, and several other high end games.
Heh. It's funny because you think Left 4 Dead is a high-end game.


<div class="quote">AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000 2.6GHz Socket AM2 65W Dual-Core Processor</div>I'd get a faster one, but that's just me. Do NOT get a quad core.


<div class="quote">Patriot Viper 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400)
Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory</div>That's good, and also leaves room for more modules later.



<div class="quote">SAMSUNG 22X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe Black SATA Model SH-S223Q</div>Don't you already have one of these?



<div class="quote">SAMSUNG 933BW High Glossy Black 19&quot; 5ms Widescreen LCD Monitor</div>If you're going for pointlessly expensive shit, you might as well get one of those 3D-supportive monitors.


<div class="quote">Microsoft Black Basic Keyboard and Mouse</div>You'll probably want a better mouse, but that keyboard is fine.


<div class="quote">ASUS M3A78 Pro ATX AMD Motherboard</div>I do not approve. Only one PCI-E slot = no SLI/Crossfire for later.

<div class="quote">XION II XON-101 Black Computer Case With Side Panel Window</div>I approve.


<div class="quote">SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 4870 100259-1GL Video Card</div> I don't have any experience with modern ATI hardware, but then again, ATI doesn't have super-cool 3D stuff...


<div class="quote">the rest</div>Doesn't matter.

[FizixMan]

I'm running the Palit 4870 512mb card (not their &quot;Sonic Dual Edition&quot;, just a standard version). For all of my games, including Left4Dead, it runs on max settings and is practically silent. I've never heard it ramp up during heavy gaming at all. I'm assuming the Sapphire version would be just as good as Palit's.

G_X's comments seem fine to me. I'm also of the opinion that quad core processors are a waste of money for gaming. Unless you're dual-screening your computer and multitasking gaming along with a bunch of applications on your other monitor, your other two cores will go to waste. Better a faster cheap dual core than a slower expensive quad core.

[l4dfan]

alienware is terrible. i'd use vigor gaming over them if you want a somewhat custom computer, or a pre-built one that isn't from the likes of dell.

but in every thread like this you'll be being told to build your own. and for a good reason. it's not hard, it's cheaper, and you have an infinite selection at your feet and amazing hardware sites such as newegg to dig reviews from.

[Rhys89]

Intel Pentium 4 CPU 2.60GHz
1.5 GB RAM
ATI Radeon Sapphire X1650 Pro
120 GB Hard Drive

This computer is like 5 years old, riddled with spy ware and only has like 8 gigs of free space, it runs Left4Dead no problem.

Your computer will be more than enough.

[blackdeath]

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[TheDark12]

I agree with the guy above me. For processor I recommend the 6000+ AMD X2, mostly because I have it and it runs a lot better than the 2ish GHz mid-rangers that I used to have.

The computer at the top of this thread is pretty much what I've got with a 1GB 4870 instead of a 512. It'll run just about everything for a while. I wouldn't waste time or money on the Phenoms until games that use 3 cores come out though.

[blackdeath]

the main trick to computers is the motherboard---pick one that is not extravagant but will still let you upgrade in the future. make sure you get the right CPU slot so you can replace that, the right number of PCI/PCI-e slots so you can always add more cards, etc., etc. gigabyte EA 45 for example. avoid DDR3, totally unnecessary.

then as long as you get a decent PSU (700w at a minimum) and a decent video card (which is almost impossible to fuck up these days) and you can always add more in the future. and you can get a good case for $50.

the right MB and PSU will take you a long way, otherwise any upgrade you do in the future will be 3 times more expensive than necessary.




/edit oh and anything more than $1k, sans monitor, is too expensive.

[trancemode]

blah ATI.
blah AMD

get a gtx 295
and a i7 965
and like 6gb of rams
you are set for the next 3 years atleast.

[TheDark12]

avoid DDR3, totally unnecessary.
I sorta disagree there, but that guy is for the most part right.

It's probably not worth buying DDR3 now, but if you want to prepare for it, by all means do what when you buy the motherboard. If you're going AMD though, just get a cheap board that does all the nice stuff. I've lived off 100 cheapo hundred dollar boards and they're as good or better than many of the expensive ones.

Don't listen to trancemode, he belongs somewhere like the macintosh forums, where people don't know anything about computers.

[Halfeatendonkey]

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Also while we're at it, whats so &quot;bad&quot; about a Quad core cpu ?

[TheDark12]

Nothing is &quot;bad&quot; about a Quad core CPU, except the price.

Nothing uses Quad cores to anywhere near their capacity, so there's really no point having one. Most games only operate on single cores anyway.

A cheap Quad is $280 for a 2.33GHz
An expensive Quad is $2214 for 3.16 GHz

Why would you want to spend either of those amounts when you're never going to ever use more than one and a half cores? Because you're a fucking idiot - that's why. Stick your future proof arguement in your ass, by the time Quad's are utilized to their capacity there'll be 8, 16, 32 cores for cheaper than that, so why would anyone bother?

Currently a 3.0GHz Duo is $268

If you can get a fast Duo for less than the cheapest Quad, and it's going to run better, then there is no possible reason to buy a Quad.

Any logical person would rather have 3.0GHz to process a single core game than 2.33GHz to process a single core game - I know I would. And I do. And almost all games use single cores, any that use dual cores probably don't use more than half of the second core.

So that's why Quads are bad, because they're worthless, costly bling for computers.

[Rhys89]

F*ck alien ware man f*ck PC get a mac pro man there da shit bro they got all the sweetest harddisks and the most memory dog and they look good go to da website man they got mac pro at like $2600 i know thats before you even add like an OS or programs or any of the good shit but thats cool because when you actually want to add all the crap that they hype it up with its only like $10000 and parents can totally afford that shit and I know you can get that shit in a pc bro for like 2000 but macs have a start up speed that's like 0.5 seconds faster and all da programs run better bro AND NO VIruSES HOLLA totally worth 8000 bucks I mean that shits got to be as gud as my xbox for real

I F*cking hate Macs and Mac users.

[SlainPwner666]

I F*cking hate Macs and Mac users.
Thats like saying you don't like black people cuz you don't like fried chicken. I have problems with mac, but that doesn't mean that theres gonna be nazis on the other side of the computer screen

[blackdeath]

Actually a &quot;cheap&quot; quad is the Q6600, at $150-200, and easily OCd to 3+ Ghz. Hardly expensive.

Oh and your point about quad cores vs single cores is completely and utterly wrong, especially these days.

[TheDark12]

Actually a &quot;cheap&quot; quad is the Q6600, at $150-200, and easily OCd to 3+ Ghz. Hardly expensive.
Yes. I was speaking in Australian dollars, and my point stands - dual cores are cheaper.

Oh and your point about quad cores vs single cores is completely and utterly wrong, especially these days.
I'm sorry, I blatantly disagree and you can't change my mind and I'm not even going to have this arguement because I've had it a million times and I'm fucking sick of it. Spend your money on whatever the hell you like.

[Rhys89]

Mac users don't like PCs because Macs are cool, young and laid back and PCs are fat, petty, nerds.

[Halfeatendonkey]

Nothing is &quot;bad&quot; about a Quad core CPU, except the price.

Nothing uses Quad cores to anywhere near their capacity, so there's really no point having one. Most games only operate on single cores anyway.

A cheap Quad is $280 for a 2.33GHz
An expensive Quad is $2214 for 3.16 GHz

Why would you want to spend either of those amounts when you're never going to ever use more than one and a half cores? Because you're a fucking idiot - that's why. Stick your future proof arguement in your ass, by the time Quad's are utilized to their capacity there'll be 8, 16, 32 cores for cheaper than that, so why would anyone bother?

Currently a 3.0GHz Duo is $268

If you can get a fast Duo for less than the cheapest Quad, and it's going to run better, then there is no possible reason to buy a Quad.

Any logical person would rather have 3.0GHz to process a single core game than 2.33GHz to process a single core game - I know I would. And I do. And almost all games use single cores, any that use dual cores probably don't use more than half of the second core.

So that's why Quads are bad, because they're worthless, costly bling for computers.

wtf just happend...

[Goldkills]

... a quad core in a new system is almost a necessary thing if you do any real watching of HD content a quad core is very nice also games now and useing quads more and more and in a lot of current gen games a quad core will give better performance IE GTA4, crysis, Farcry2, fallout3, and even L4D can use a quad core to give slighty better performance in the next year or so quad cores will be needed to run the newest games to the fullest and in maybe 3-4 years dual cores will fallout of style to quads and then there will be 6 core CPUs for top of the line. but for a future proof system get a quad core.

[Halfeatendonkey]

Ive got the Quad Q6600 and it runs perfect.

[TheDark12]

a quad core in a new system is almost a necessary thing if you do any real watching of HD content
No they arent. No where near.

games a quad core will give better performance IE GTA4, crysis, Farcry2, fallout3, and even L4D can use a quad core to give slighty better performance
They can't use all four cores, few can use more than two, read the following:
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=200712 23070936AASyVbg (http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071223070936AASyVbg)

in the next year or so quad cores will be needed to run the newest games to the fullest and in maybe 3-4 years dual cores will fallout of style to quads and then there will be 6 core CPUs for top of the line.
In 2-3 years Quads that cost 2000 now will cost less than a hundred then. Buying a Quad is NOT future proofing your computer. A dual core that runs at 3GHz+ is going to be better than 2.4GHz systems in most circumstances.

I am sorry, but I completely disagree with you and there's nothing you can do about it. Until the systems behind games changes, dual cores are going to be best in 90% of circumstances.

[Goldkills]

In 2-3 years Quads that cost 2000 now will cost less than a hundred then. Buying a Quad is NOT future proofing your computer. A dual core that runs at 3GHz+ is going to be better than 2.4GHz systems in most circumstances.
ya if you include inflation without it most things will get cheaper over time but with computer tech the newest and best thing will cost more. but for the next few years dual cores are going to fall to the way side b/c it is way more profitable for a CPU maker to include 4 cores on a chip then 2 with the current tech and 45nm soon to be 32nm.

<div class="quote"><div class="quoting">Quoting: TheDark12;]Quoting: Goldkills
a quad core in a new system is almost a necessary thing if you do any real watching of HD content

No they arent. No where near.[/QUOTE]

for real viewing of HD content including 1080p in MKV format almost requires a very high end dual core or quad core with quads being better at this because ATI and Nvidia does not support this file type in there HD decoder also if you do any sorta movie rendering or editing a Quad will give way better performance.

[TheDark12]

I'm sorry. and GTA4 can use all 4 cores and still cant run that great, games like crysis and GTA4 cant run well even on the best of the best systems at there full settings.
Okay. I've just done a FarCry 2 Benchmark just for you.
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c160/TheDark12/myfarcry2bench.png
My system specs are this:
Windows XP
AMD 6000+ x2 (3.02GHz)
4GB DDR2 800
1GB ATI 4870
Gigabyte GA-M55SLI-S4 (motherboard)

At this point I'm on an older scale PCI-E slot because I'm limited on cash and Windows XP doesn't even recognise all 4GB of my RAM.

So look, there it is, FarCry 2, the exact same engine as Crysis, running entirely reasonable on a dual core machine on full graphics.

If you can prove to me that a Quad core of lesser power will run the game supremely to my dual core machine, then I will listen to your arguement.

Until then, LALALALA I'm not listening.

And don't give me bullshit about having a brilliant card or more RAM. If you're so right then a Quad core should more than make up for that.

for real viewing of HD content including 1080p in MKV format almost requires a very high end dual core or quad core with quads being better at this because ATI and Nvidia does not support this file type in there HD decoder also if you do any sorta movie rendering or editing a Quad will give way better performance.

I totally agree with you for the rendering and editing side - because the software can be written in such a way that allows for that. But games just don't work the same, so I disagree.

Also, my brother has the same processor as me and he watches HD content fine. In fact RAIDing his hard drives improved performance more than any upgrade he got, so I believe that it's the hard drives that are limiting the HD speed rather than processors.

[darkmessiah]

My system specs are this:
Windows XP
AMD 6000+ x2 (3.02GHz)
4GB DDR2 800
1GB ATI 4870
Gigabyte GA-M55SLI-S4 (motherboard)

Why'd you get a 6000? It uses double the wattage, and you can overclock the 5600 pretty well.

AMD 5600+ X2 (3.04GHz)

[Goldkills]

So look, there it is, FarCry 2, the exact same engine as Crysis, running entirely reasonable on a dual core machine on full graphics.
Crysis runs on the cry2 engine and farcry runs a on totaly diff engine that was made by ubisoft and that is not a vald test because unless you have a quad core and a dual core set up you cant compare something to nothing.

[TheDark12]

Crysis runs on the cry2 engine and farcry runs a on totaly diff engine that was made by ubisoft and that is not a vald test because unless you have a quad core and a dual core set up you cant compare something to nothing.

My god... You learn something every day...

Why the hell would Ubisoft do that?

[Blackdeathee]

My god... You learn something every day...

Why the hell would Ubisoft do that?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:CryEngine_family _tree.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:CryEngine_family_tree.png)

Note the platforms supported and the owners (though CryEngine2 was bought completely by Ubi).


Also note that the divisions of Ubi that work on those engines work on completely different games/markets/countries though that is more of a byproduct of the platform responsibilities of each engine.

[Goldkills]

Ya ubisoft made a almost totaly diff engine compared to the cry2 engine the engine used for farcry2 i think is less dynamic then the cry2 engine, the cry2 engine is basicly a huge sandbox for devs to make stuff in it also supports some of the most graphicly crazy stuff out now and for the future.

[FizixMan]

for real viewing of HD content including 1080p in MKV format almost requires a very high end dual core or quad core with quads being better at this because ATI and Nvidia does not support this file type in there HD decoder
My almost 3 year old, 2.4 Ghz E6600 dual core processor playing 1080p MKV videos at full framerate says you're full of it.

if you do any sorta movie rendering or editing a Quad will give way better performance.
This is true. If the person was into heavy video editing then this discussion would have been over when he said that's what he wanted. Except he didn't specify anything of the sort and wants it for gaming.

Fact is, for the best bang for his buck, a good dual core system is the best way to go right now. It will last him at least 3 years, and if he feels the need to upgrade then, he can get the best bang for his buck again and upgrade to an i7 system for cheap.

If you have the money you want to shell out now for the bleeding edge system, go ahead. You're better off though going cheap, investing the money in something else, and going cheap again in a few years.

[Goldkills]

the guy in the OP was going to get a Alienware computer so my guess is that he has the money lol. but for my next system that i am going to be getting in a month or 2 will be a quad core I7 with a GTX295 so i will be set for many years but for any builders i really suggest getting a quad core to get rid of bottlenecks on your video card i mean if your getting a top of the line video card a dual core will lower its performance by a good amount wile a quad core will not in most cases

[TheDark12]

If you have the money you want to shell out now for the bleeding edge system, go ahead. You're better off though going cheap, investing the money in something else, and going cheap again in a few years.
A man after my own heart.

I'm stepping out of this one guys... I say we just bite the bullet and blame the French.

[FizixMan]

I say we just bite the bullet and blame the French.
Damn those Frenchies and their ridiculously awesome poutine!

[Blackdeathee]

Your concept of &quot;cheap&quot; is trying to save $70 USD on a $700-$1000 system? That's not cheap, that's stupid. It's like trying to scrape $30 off the PSU, it makes no sense.

So yeah, you can go cheap now, save the $70, and find out in 2 years that rather than replacing 1 part you have to replace the motherboard and several other parts that'll run you an extra several hundred bucks because you ran with parts that are 6 years old and had no concept of upgrading. Nevermind having to run without 3 extra cores for 2 years when most things now, if not within those 2 years, are going to require more than a Pentium 3.


And no, interest and inflation isn't going to save you on that $70.

[Blackdeathee]

Ive got the Quad Q6600 and it runs perfect.


same here.

haven't even bothered to stick on a non-stock fan to pump it up to 3+ghz it runs so well.

a fantastic chip.

[FizixMan]

Your concept of &quot;cheap&quot; is trying to save $70 USD on a $700-$1000 system? That's not cheap, that's stupid. It's like trying to scrape $30 off the PSU, it makes no sense.
Nooo... my concept of cheap is to spend $700 on a tower instead of $1500

Mind you, I think in Canadian dollars, so just shave off a good 20% if you want it in USD.

$325 for an LGA1366 motherboard (for an i7 processor)
$375 for the LOWEST end i7 processor ($765, $1300 for the mid/high range model)
$125 for the LOWEST end triple channel DDR3 at 3gb ($235 for 6gb, $450 for 12gb)

That's $825 right there for the LOWEST end i7 series. If you want high end you're looking at around $2000. And that's just for the motherboard + CPU + ram.


Compared to some Core 2's:
$125 for an adequate motherboard (you could fork out $300 but it's overkill)
$215 for an E8400 processor
$50 for 2GB of RAM ($75 for 4GB)

Around $400 for a decent Core 2 system that will run games no problem for years and can be easily overclocked if you need to squeeze out another year of life.

And 3 years down the road you can upgrade to an i7 system for just a cheap. Meanwhile that $400 to $1600 you saved on your motherboard/CPU/RAM could go to:

A: high end graphics cards
B: high end monitor
C: A giant television
D: help on a down payment for a car
E: A Wii, Xbox 360, PS3, DS, PSP, or the next generation of systems
F: high end audio/peripherals/input devices for your computer

But hey, if none of those things compare to an extra 15 to 30 FPS on games that you're already getting 45 to 125 FPS on...

[TheDark12]

Nooo... my concept of cheap is to spend $700 on a tower instead of $1500
I completely agree with this guy.

And inflation and interest are not even relevant - computer parts will inflate with the index, just like your pay rates, so in the end it's all going to be exactly the same.

My computer runs Crysis on highest settings, here's a few Benchmarks for ya'll:
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c160/TheDark12/CrysisBenchmarks.png
The order of benchmarks is CPU test 1, CPU test 2, GPU test

[Sniper Wolf]

Dual Cores are just about so good enough for gaming, it is always nice to have that extra multi-tasking budget, I have an Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 @ 2.67 GHz in my laptop (I could have selected an E8600, but I went for the Quad), it has been a bliss for gaming.

A Quad Core can make a difference in a well-coded game (especially in really-high resolutions, this image is a benchmark at 1280x1024 though):

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/8946/gta4pccpubenches1280pu0.png

But it won't yield nearly double the performance a dual core would, keep that in mind.

Intel's line of Dual Core processors is about dead, though, there won't be more production of desktop Core 2 processors anymore due to the entrance of Core i7 (Quad Core only), but Core 2 processors are still good and bang for the buck processors.

[FizixMan]

Intel's line of Dual Core processors is about dead, though, there won't be more production of desktop Core 2 processors anymore due to the entrance of Core i7 (Quad Core only)
They're still coming out with the E8700 this quarter, running at 3.5ghz. Along with some additional mobiles:
Duo SL9600 2.00GHz 6MB L2 Cache 1066MHz FSB
Duo SP9600 2.53GHz 6MB L2 Cache 1066MHz FSB
Duo SU9600 1.60GHz 3MB L2 Cache 800MHz FSB
Duo P8800 2.80GHz
Duo T9900 3.20GHz

But yeah, you won't be seeing any more Cores. Which makes them so cheap to own!

[Zombie_T_Bagger]

standard 750-watt Multi-GPU-approved power supply


+1 thank god someone else put it down!!! LOL

1. Who the hell makes the power supply...if i am getting railed by alienware I sure as hell better be a pc power &amp; cooling or a corsair PSU!!!!!

2. The dual core vs quad argument has been beat into the ground! I almost went e8500 and even though the frame rate tests proved a lot higher in a decent amount of games I gambled on a quad thinking that game developers &quot;MIGHT&quot; be using more than just dual core support down the road I COULD BE TOTALLY WRONG!!!! EITHER ARE GREAT CPU&quot;S!!!!!!!!!! if you really want to stand out solder together a couple opteron 165's WOOOT!!!!!!! and slap on a honda generator as a PSU!!!! LOL!

3. Build it yourself or have a friend help you out.! ....if possible...

4.the comps not bad but far cry max settings will make game play feel like your in a jar of syrup......l4d will run like a cheetah on CRACK!

I'm sorry, I blatantly disagree and you can't change my mind and I'm not even going to have this arguement because I've had it a million times and I'm fucking sick of it. Spend your money on whatever the hell you like. I hear you!