Rigged servers? (cheats not enabled; PC)

[audiorez]

So yea, I was playing a random public versus match today and someone from the opposing team was an admin for the server we were playing in. (I forgot to note name of the server or said person, mainly because I'm an idiot). Everything was going well, and we played smoothly through the first round.

During the second round, we had to fight through 2 witches and 2 tanks, it was a struggle, but we made it into the safe room with medpacks to spare. However, once it was our turn to be infected, we only got a single witch and a single tank, and EVEN so, we took them all out.

One of my teammates went on about how the server was rigged and that they were cheating, and despite the unfair advantage, they still lost. Which obviously angered the other team and they got into an argument of how they weren't cheating, yadayada, etc.

As soon as the third round kicked in, the admin raged and enabled sv_cheats, said something along the lines of "THIS IS HOW YOU CHEAT" spawned a shitton of tanks and witches, and eventually kicked us all out of the server.

Basically I'm posting to verify something. I thought the number of witches and tanks was set for each team and the only variables the AI director can alter were locations? I don't think you can justify a "handicap" considering when we started out as infected, we had only 2 people.

Was this a rigged server? Thoughts?

[l4dfan]

you can spawn infected without cheats with sourcemod, so he could have spawned a tank manually for the second one. sounds like a moron admin tho..

[VaporTrail]

I've never seen more than three of the random specials in any given map in VS (excepting Finales), or at least that I can remember. I guess there's a first time for everything though.

I was under the impression that the last PC patch did make it so the server spawned the same pattern of random specials (and weapons and such...) so I'm unsure what happened with the different numbers of random specials.

Frankly as long as I was winning I wouldn't be too ticked about losers trying to cheat. Since I'm on 360, I run into people that still ramp camp, and dumpster block, and generator block. I've worked out solutions to most of those, and I refuse to use them myself. I just try harder to nail the opponent as early as possible.

Most of the time, I've found that people that still use the cheese tactics aren't the best at standard tactics. Not to mention that going ahead to block a path leaves your team a man down, which makes it that much easier for the opponents to get farther.

[darkmessiah]

Yada yada, we had sex. Oh, and some are rigged.

[Radrakula]

Yeah, uh if its his server theres not much you can do if he decides to cheat, so just leave and quit whining?

[PSOLaguna]

I recently played a game on 360 that had two tanks and two witches spawn in our favor on the same map, while the other team only got one of each and I know no one from our team was cheating so I can only assume its a glitch of some sort.

[FizixMan]

Once my infected team got two tank spawns at the same spot. As survivors there was only the one tank. It was probably a glitch. But I don't know if it's applicable in your case or not.

EDIT: that is, not two tanks at the same time. But two tanks spawned within 60 seconds of each other from the same location at the NM3 crescendo.

[airu]

I'm inclined to believe it's either a glitch or the AID being.. weird...
I've seen a few threads with people mentioning this problem.

I've had a NM4 run where my team got a tank spawn, but their team didn't.. :/ We were ahead in points too..