left 4 dead on spike tv, survival mode

[Furie]

Its at about 18.30 (http://www.gametrailers.com/gametrailerstv_player.php?ep=48&ch=4&sd=1)

So survival mode is aparently just.. trying to survive horde after horde on 12 of the maps.

[ZJake]

So much for an awesome new mode.

[silens]

PHAIL!

[binge]

I like it

[Dead Fish]

"Up to four players set records for the longest time surviving hordes of zombies on over twelve maps."

So that's the big reveal. :) I wonder why he said "over" twelve maps. Does that mean a selection of all four campaigns? Or two full campaigns plus some new solitary maps? Anyways, sounds like a good idea for a new mode.

Probably campaign style, though, without playable Infected (up to 4 player). Both teams could work together to mess up the leaderboards.

[Small Little P00]

So survival mode is aparently just.. trying to survive horde after horde on 12 of the maps.

I hope this DLC is free for PC, or my L4D suffers untimely death. Paying for this would be more than idiotic.

[dethklok]

ofcourse its free you dumbass
who cares about this mod?
i want the sdk only

[Steve Cloud]

Cool, I guess.

[Dead Fish]

I guess they were inspired by GoW2's Horde Mode and CoD:WaW's Zombie Nazi Mode, both very successful. It's also what 90% of all L4D mod ideas already sound like. &quot;What if there was <X> and you'd have to survive as long as possible!&quot; And Valve is delivering exactly that.

ofcourse its free you dumbass
who cares about this mod?
i want the sdk only


Lets not get all heated up. We don't know about pricing on whatever platform yet.

[dethklok]

Lets not get all heated up. We don't know about pricing on whatever platform yet.

http://www.left4dead411.com/forums/index.php?actio n=vthread&forum=2&topic=9777 (http://www.left4dead411.com/forums/index.php?action=vthread&forum=2&topic=9777)

[mrbellcaptain]

at the bottom i noticed it says &quot;New mode footage not shown&quot; its possible there is new levels just for this mode or something

[Ace]

The 12 maps stuck out at me. They didn't say NEW maps, so why 12?

It's probably coincidence, but out of curiosity I added up how many events there are in all 4 campaigns. If I'm not forgetting any, there are 12 events - 3 in each campaign, not counting the finale maps of course.

Perhaps the survival maps are revisions of each of these events, redesigned to be self contained, never ending attacks that keep getting worse until the players are ultimately overwhelmed.

It's probably coincidence though, since most of the events have a definite end. For example, how could you scale up the no mercy elevator event to be survival-ish? The elevator is going to get there eventually, you can't make it go on forever..

I dunno, just some random thoughts. The GameTrailers blip was pretty unsubstantial, so I'm dying to get some actual info sooner or later.

[Nemesis_vs_Leon]

It's also what 90% of all L4D mod ideas already sound like.
This is what people have requested most in all of zombiedom, and it's EXACTLY what I thought it was, Defense.

This would be PERFECT in in versus to show who survives longest, and if this happens I'll be playing this A TON.

[Sickness]

survivor mode is actually gona be how i predicted: &quot;You have to survive in a corner on no mercy as long as possible&quot;. 12 maps = finals in campaign and versus + 4 maps like the one with the churchguy. So nothing new.

[GuitarPUNK1209]

please tell me that 360 gamers will get this too

[Romanian]

They will. In fact, they are the reason everyone has to wait for the DLC.

[Braniac]

The footage of DT and DA versus make it look fucking awesome, just as I suspected.

Personally, as long as you play Infected in Survival mode, I'm completely down with it.

[Stupoider]

Lets not get all heated up. We don't know about pricing on whatever platform yet.

But we do know that Valve doesn't charge for their updates.

On the PC, that is.

Microsoft will charge 360, I guess.

[SlainPwner666]

12 maps huh. I think they skip the first two maps, because those are kinda easy to run through.

[Jakpower]

This is what i thought would come out mostly because Most people on this fourm said that a survival mode would be great and im pretty sure valve looks at this site -.-

[FizixMan]

The 12 maps stuck out at me. They didn't say NEW maps, so why 12?

It's probably coincidence, but out of curiosity I added up how many events there are in all 4 campaigns. If I'm not forgetting any, there are 12 events - 3 in each campaign, not counting the finale maps of course.
Blood Harvest 4 doesn't have an event.

[Braniac]

Blood Harvest 4 doesn't have an event.

They could easily add one to either the building you first go into, near the alarmed car or the one right next to the train tracks.

[Nemesis_vs_Leon]

crescendo maps and finale maps probably.
valve looks at this site
maybe they saw my map style post :D

[stev0hazard]

Wow... guess it's good for the people who like to camp in safe houses...
Oh well all has not been revealed yet, valve are smarter than THAT.

[Decoy Sanchez]

oh good so the two versus maps we heard about are just dead air and death toll.

I was really hoping that wasn't the case and we'd get some new campaigns

[Platypus]

I was really hoping that wasn't the case and we'd get some new campaigns
Yeah, we all expected the two new maps to just be Dead Air and Death Toll

Personally, as long as you play Infected in Survival mode, I'm completely down with it.

It's 4 players max, and survival so...you'll only be playing the Survivors.

[Frito]

Eh, I'll wait until I hear more to get excited.

[one of them]

valve looks at this site
They used to, but now that it's full of idiots they might not anymore.

[Reptile]

Nice. Waiting for moar info...

[Kriegster]

&quot;The first day of spring for 2009 is March 20th, a Friday&quot; - ABOUT A MONTH AWAY!!! JAJAJAJAJ

[Neb]

Can someone upload the l4d part on YouTube? I'm away from my pc and I wanna watch this on my itouch

[Braniac]

It's 4 players max, and survival so...you'll only be playing the Survivors.


Oh, just noticed that. But if its only 4 people, how will you compete against each other? Is it surviving individually?

[Kenny]

I'm curious to see if it is indeed what people thought, surviving in a house, but with the added twist of the infected team still being playable for 4 v 4.

[stev0hazard]

If it DOES cost money on xbox, I think I'll just sit it out 'till it's free... Doesn't sound all that amazing... I was hoping for something infected related...

[Neb]

I think the new mode will open up alot of small custom maps just for this mode. Like survival maps with traps and maybe like trying to survive ontop of a tower and stuff like that.

[Psyche]

Its valve, they wouldn't make a gamemode which wouldn't be successful, you guys are getting way to worked up.

[TekkenDevil]

Im disappointed in this mode.

What's so OMFGLOL fun about staying put in a simple little place and essentially replaying Finales over and over again?



Once again, I continue to be the only man on earth who bought this game for Co-Op campaign, and is blown off by it, over and over.



&quot;CUZ DA VALvE GAMEZ R FOR KILLIN EACHOTHER LUL, GTFO&quot;

[FaceGrater]

I think survival mode will be ok, more from the community maps that are going to happen since the SDK will be coming out with it. Valve may just give us old maps but the community will put some cool stuff out there.

[RimBab]

If this DLC costs money for the xbox then screw it >_>

[NovaSilisko]

Oh, just noticed that. But if its only 4 people, how will you compete against each other? Is it surviving individually?


Two teams, they each take turns seeing who can survive the longest I believe.

[SpitefulCrow]

Can someone upload the l4d part on YouTube? I'm away from my pc and I wanna watch this on my itouch


It's not really worth it. The bit was all of five or six seconds and all he did was say one sentence about it. You've already read everything that was said on the show.

[JohnnyBoy]

So it's just horde after horde, seeing how long you can go? with the regular infected? no need to get to safe rooms? I can go all day with the double melee and an auto-shotty, just by myself. They'll have to raise the difficulty to advanced or expert to get me interested because it sounds lame. I thought Valve would be more creative.

[Stupoider]

Im disappointed in this mode.

What's so OMFGLOL fun about staying put in a simple little place and essentially replaying Finales over and over again?



Once again, I continue to be the only man on earth who bought this game for Co-Op campaign, and is blown off by it, over and over.



&quot;CUZ DA VALvE GAMEZ R FOR KILLIN EACHOTHER LUL, GTFO&quot;

Listen, troll, this mode will still require cooperation. Do you really think someone can survive on their own against so many Infected? And what about added difficulties to this new game mode?

[stev0hazard]

So it's just horde after horde, seeing how long you can go? with the regular infected? no need to get to safe rooms? I can go all day with the double melee and an auto-shotty, just by myself. They'll have to raise the difficulty to advanced or expert to get me interested because it sounds lame. I thought Valve would be more creative.
A: You're forgetting that the Double melee will most probably be patched by then.
B: I kind of agree still...

[SCE_Dantalion]

So it's just horde after horde, seeing how long you can go? with the regular infected? no need to get to safe rooms? I can go all day with the double melee and an auto-shotty, just by myself. They'll have to raise the difficulty to advanced or expert to get me interested because it sounds lame. I thought Valve would be more creative.

if you get bored by using double melee and auto shottie .. i know this is a strech but how about not using the double melee and a weapon that isnt a auto shottie .. i know its a long strech but i think it just might be possible.

[DethPenguin]

So it's just horde after horde, seeing how long you can go? with the regular infected? no need to get to safe rooms? I can go all day with the double melee and an auto-shotty, just by myself. They'll have to raise the difficulty to advanced or expert to get me interested because it sounds lame. I thought Valve would be more creative.

And what if your only options are a cricket bat, 2x4, and a crowbar?

[JohnnyBoy]

And what if your only options are a cricket bat, 2x4, and a crowbar?
now that's more like it! do some shaun of the dead stuff!

[TekkenDevil]

Listen, troll, this mode will still require cooperation. Do you really think someone can survive on their own against so many Infected? And what about added difficulties to this new game mode?

Listen Child, there is no story to this mode at all.


Thus I care not.


(if you respond with, &quot;campaign doesn't have a story&quot; then I don't even know why I am trying to reason with you)

[mrbellcaptain]

Blood Harvest 4 doesn't have an event.


Blood Harvest has 3 events, the Alarm Door, The Train Bridge, and the Farmhouse, and figuring 3 events (Including the finals) times 4 is 12, thats 12 maps right there

[_Omerta_]

Lets just be simple about this.

1. The DLC will be free, like all steam games have been.
2. It's not new maps, just edited version of previous campaigns(like Vs mode)
3. Lets hope that Vs mode edits to Dead air and Death toll are decent. The invisible wall points should be fixed. leap spots are incredible on death toll, but the areas are so wide its hard to hide as infected. And dead air 90% of the campaign is like a NM4. BORING.

I think the key thing that i wish they would add is &quot;fog of war&quot; I'd be sitting up somewhere extremely high miles away and get sniped off the top of the object as a hunter by someone is asinine. There needs to be air fog so survivors cant see the hunters in high places all the time unless they are close enough to the objects.

[Omega Man]

Once again, I continue to be the only man on earth who bought this game for Co-Op campaign, and is blown off by it, over and over.
Nope, two of us then. I bought it mainly for the co-op campaign play as well. That's all I really wanted to finally get to do in gaming--feel like I'm actually experiencing being inside a zombie movie. Mission accomplished. :)

The whole Versus competitive side I don't even care that much about personally, because that's just not what embodies L4D's true spirit for me. That said, it's really cool that it's in there, but I prefer campaign play myself. I'd much rather Valve put more attention on new co-op movies going forward, than Versus and new modes, but hey...

[odj]

Once again, I continue to be the only man on earth who bought this game for Co-Op campaign, and is blown off by it, over and over.

When the SDK comes out there are going to be plenty of maps for people who just want to play the campaign part.

[Goldkills]

If it DOES cost money on xbox, I think I'll just sit it out 'till it's free...
Never going to be free blame MS valve cant do shit about it.

Two teams, they each take turns seeing who can survive the longest I believe.
does not seem that way Valve has already stated they dont want to make players waiting more then a min or 2 to play (see commentary in game and from interviews) so its going to be coop style gameplay with only 4 people.

[Poodge]

It's 4 players max, and survival so...you'll only be playing the Survivors.

If this is true, then I will likely never play this mode. I was seriously hoping that there would be a competitive aspect to it, where two teams compete for the longest survival time, and infected team try to kill the survivors as fast as possible in order to achieve that goal.

I never play camapign mode, too boring for me, so if there is no infected play, I will likely touch this mode maybe 3 times total.

[Stupoider]

(if you respond with, &quot;campaign doesn't have a story&quot; then I don't even know why I am trying to reason with you)

It doesn't need a bloody story. Campaign is for the story, it's obvious, this is just an alternative game mode, like versus.

[awdrgy123]

looks extremely boring.... unless they make levels where you get less and less ammo/health

[DethPenguin]

Funny how everyone wants a Survival mode and when ValvE starts making it:
&quot;Boring&quot;
&quot;Sounds gay&quot;

[mshield]

I trust Valve to think of something to spice this mode up. Dynamic hold off areas would make it interesting - e.g. imagine if there were equally good hold off points in different areas of the Blood Harvest finale, rather than just the house, it gives choice and variety. Being pushed back into a different area because your first choice was overrun is a situation I would like to see in this mode.

[The One]

Funny how everyone wants a Survival mode and when ValvE starts making it:
&quot;Boring&quot;
&quot;Sounds gay&quot;
Its because it does sound gay.
Doesnt really seem like they actually put much thought into this, like they wanted to throw some shit in there along with the maps.
Cant judge though, not until its out.

[Dead Fish]

I can see why some people can't get into the idea of a Survival Mode. It's much more arcadey than what L4D used to be so far. No need for a story or deliberate pacing here, just more and more zombies. That's fine too, imo.

[mrbellcaptain]

i personally like it, be it on new maps or just older maps, and i cant wait for the verses maps cause im kinda getting sick of replaying No Mercy and quiting out of Blood Harvest out of bordom so yeah its a welcomed dlc pack

[Braniac]

I can see why some people can't get into the idea of a Survival Mode. It's much more arcadey than what L4D used to be so far. No need for a story or deliberate pacing here, just more and more zombies. That's fine too, imo.

Yeah Versus and Campaign for a well structured, good experience, and survival to destroy shitloads of zombies mindlessly. Still disappointed about no infected play, though.

[Nuttz]

I hope they add some extra elements, and not just get a map and remove the safe rooms.

[Hon3r]

I think they need to mix things up more. Survival mode just seems like a cresendo event that never ends. How would that still be interesting after 4 or 5 hordes attack?
Make the levels bigger and have more than one group of 4 survivors on a map at a time. They could meet and join forces or do their own thing. I guess that's just dreaming though.

If I have to pay for this on 360 I'll be pissed. They basically released half of a game and are charging us for the second half.

Yeah, yeah... I guess Microsoft would be charging us.

[TekkenDevil]

Yeah Versus and Campaign for a well structured, good experience, and survival to destroy shitloads of zombies mindlessly. Still disappointed about no infected play, though.


Thing is, there's plenty of opportunities for bad/idiot players to turn the already existing gamemodes into mindless, who can finish first, zombie killing arcade.

And by god, most people are in a rush to use those opportunities.

As such, Survival mode doesn't seem anything new or even slightly interesting to me.

[ArcadeImp]

I'm thinking survival mode will be a worthwhile addition to the game. It is Valve. I will give them the benefit of the doubt and hold back judgment until I know more about it.

They will be tracking stats on this mode and have leaderboards... Leads me to believe there may be stats in campaign and vs.. Maybe it's just a pipe dream though.

[timmeh]

For anyone who doesn't like the idea, think about this. What gametype has every noob in the L4D community been asking for? Where might they all be when the implied gameplay mode comes online? Where does this mean they are not?

Hopefully this will mean less retards in versus and co-op. Unfortunately, the people who want to be able to play survival online are likely to run into even more noobism than before...

[Nemesis_vs_Leon]

survival online are likely to run into even more noobism than before...
That's half the game. It's so entertaining to watch them kill themselves in stupid ways.

Many lols will be had just like CSS Zombie Mod. First I lol then I go save them. Then they trip on a rock and die again as we run away LOLOLOL classic.

[JohnnyBoy]

I'm hoping for less health/ammo, less pipebomb/molotov, and advanced common infected/special infected damage/durability. Or it could be fashioned to reenact Night of the Living Dead. Just give three people a melee weapon, give one person a winchester carbine, and it'll be headshots/blows to the head to take the, now slow moving, infected down. Survivors would have to hold up in a house that they could barricade to their liking.

[Mustacio]

so we have to wait (possibly) months to get a new mode and unlock two campaigns that should of been included upon release? wheres the new campaigns? seriously thats pretty dumb.

[Tayken]

Zombie Genocidist here I come!

[staveoffzombies]

So it sounds exactly like I thought it would be.

Could be fun, especially for versus play.