New Computer for a Poor bastard

[DethPenguin]

So I'm looking to buy a new computer under 700. I'm no techie, so help me out here. Three computers caught my eye at cyberpowerpc, so tell which would be better for gaming. I'm not a graphics whore, but it would be nice to run settings on High for once and have a decent framerate. I've been missing out on a lot of games lately because my laptop sucks male anatomy.

Mega Special II (http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/Mega_Special_II/)

Mega Special III (http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/Mega_Special_III/)

Gamer Infinity 8000 Dream (http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/Gamer_Infinity_8000_Dream)

[Grieverlionhart]

I like the sound of the Gamer Infinity dream but alas, it's not over 9000 still looks good to me (stat wise)

[Goldkills]

the Mega special 3 looks ok but i would change the PSU and video card i would get a 550W+ PSU and a 9800GT or better get get some really good performance

here use the mega 3 and put this
CASE: ($20 Mail-in Rebate) Apevia X-SniperG Mid-Tower 420W Case (Black Color)
Neon Light Upgrade: NONE
Extra Case Fan Upgrade: Default case fans
POWER SUPPLY Upgrade: 580 Watts Power Supplies (SLI Ready Power Supply)
CPU: (Sckt775)Intel® Core™ 2 Duo E8500 CPU @ 3.16GHz 1333FSB 6MB L2 Cache 64-bit
COOLING FAN : INTEL LGA775 CERTIFIED CPU FAN & HEATSINK
MOTHERBOARD: MSI G31M-F Intel G31 Chipset LGA775 FSB1333 DDR2 Mainboard
MEMORY: 4GB (2GBx2) PC6400 DDR2/800 Dual Channel Memory (Corsair or Major Brand)
FREEBIES: None
VIDEO CARD: NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GT 512MB 16X PCI Express (Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA)
VIDEO CARD 2: NONE
VIDEO CARD 3: NONE
MULTIPLE VIDEO CARD SETTINGS: Non-SLI/CrossFireX Mode Supports Multiple Monitors
LCD Monitor: NONE
2nd Monitor: NONE
HARD DRIVE: Single Hard Drive (500GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD)
Data Hard Drive: NONE
USB PORTABLE DRIVE: NONE
Optical Drive: (Special Price) LG 20X DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW DRIVE DUAL LAYER (BLACK COLOR)
Optical Drive 2: NONE
SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
SPEAKERS: 600Watts PMPO Subwoofer Stereo Speakers
NETWORK: ONBOARD 10/100 NETWORK CARD
MODEM: NONE
KEYBOARD: PS2 MULTIMEDIA INTERNET CONTROL KEYBOARD (BLACK COLOR)
MOUSE: Logitech Optical Wheel Mouse (BLACK COLOR)
Extra Thermal Display : NONE
Wireless 802.11B/G Network Card: NONE
Flash Media Reader/Writer: INTERNAL 12in1 Flash Media Reader/Writer (BLACK COLOR)
Cable Wiring: Professional Wiring for All WIRINGs Inside The System Chasis with High Performance Thermal Compound on CPU
Rounded Cable: None
VIDEO CAMERA: NONE
PRINTER: None
PRINTER CABLE: None
IEEE CARD: NONE
USB PORT: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports
FLOPPY: NONE
OS: NONE - FORMAT HARD DRIVE ONLY
FREEBIES: None
Media Center Remote Control & TV Tuner: None
SERVICE: STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT
RUSH SERVICE: NO; READY TO SHIP IN 5~10 BUSINESS DAYS
694$ if i had to get stuff it would be that

Edit 2 i would get a OS like XP or vista since the computer does not come with it if you got a old computer with XP just load it on the new computer.

[DethPenguin]

NUMBERS AND LETTERS

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Cheers mate!

[Goldkills]

GL with the computer and get a OS for it XP or Vista are good i would get 64 bit vista b/c you dont want to let that 4gb of ram go to waste.

[DethPenguin]

Bump to the Past's Future II: DethPenguin Strikes Back



* *BASE_PRICE: [+585]
* CAS: Apevia X-SniperG Mid-Tower 420W Case (Black Color)
* CASUPGRADE: NONE
* CS_FAN: Default case fans
* POWERSUPPLY: 650 Watts Power Supplies [+101] (Logisys ATX12V/EPS12V Silent 12CM Power Supply PS650U12 [-60])
* CPU: (Sckt775)Intel® Core™ 2 Duo E8400 CPU @ 3.0GHz 1333FSB 6MB L2 Cache 64-bit
* FAN: INTEL LGA775 CERTIFIED CPU FAN & HEATSINK
* MOTHERBOARD: MSI G31M3-L Intel G31 Chipset LGA775 FSB1333 DDR2 Mainboard
* MEMORY: 4GB (2GBx2) PC6400 DDR2/800 Dual Channel Memory (Corsair or Major Brand)
* FREEBIE_RM: None
* VIDEO: NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GT 512MB 16X PCI Express (Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA)
* VIDEO2: None
* VIDEO3: None
* MULTIVIEW: Non-SLI/CrossFireX Mode Supports Multiple Monitors
* MONITOR: NONE
* MONITOR2: NONE
* HDD: Single Hard Drive (500GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD)
* HDD2: NONE
* FA_HDD: None
* USBHD: NONE
* CD: (Special Price) LG 22X DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW DRIVE DUAL LAYER (Black Color)
* CD2: NONE
* SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
* SPEAKERS: 600Watts PMPO Subwoofer Stereo Speakers
* NETWORK: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network
* MODEM: NONE
* KEYBOARD: PS2 MULTIMEDIA INTERNET CONTROL KEYBOARD (BLACK COLOR)
* MOUSE: Logitech Optical Wheel Mouse (BLACK COLOR)
* TEMP: NONE
* WNC: PCI Wireless 802.11g 54Mbps Network Interface Card [+19]
* FLASHMEDIA: INTERNAL 12in1 Flash Media Reader/Writer (BLACK COLOR)
* VIDEOCAMERA: NONE
* PRINTER: None
* PRINTER_CABLE: None
* IEEE_CARD: NONE
* USB: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports
* FLOPPY: NONE
* OS: Microsoft® Windows Vista™ Home Premium w/ Service Pack 1 [+104] (64-bit Edition)
* FREEBIE_OS: None
* TVRC: None
* SERVICE: STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT
* RUSH: NO; READY TO SHIP IN 5~10 BUSINESS DAYS
* _PRICE: (+749)

This look fine and dandy? Something that semi-concerns me is the power supply. There are two 650W Power Supplies, the "Logisys ATX12V/EPS12V Silent 12CM Power Supply PS650U12 " (The one I chose). And the "Corsair CMPSU-650TX - Quad SLI Ready " For 60 extra dollars. I'm not going to spend 60 extra dollars. The concern part is that there is a 580W power supply for a dollar cheaper. Am I losing something by taking 650W Logisys ATX12V/EPS12V Silent 12CM Power Supply PS650U12?

(Christ it's been 3 months and I've still haven't bought it yet.)

[Darkness]

Do not order from cyberpowerpc.com

my comp is from cyberpowerpc.com and I fortunately got off pretty lightly in relation to some others. But the company is shit. Order from buyxg.com. They work in the same building, use the same warehouse and have mostly the same stuff. Just buyxg is a better company.

cyberpowerpc will change the parts in your computer if they run out of what you ordered without asking or telling you until you open the box and find out they have tweaked your bill accordingly.

Their tech support despite being slow, is totally inept. I had to diagnose and fix my own problems because I did not want to format and reinstall windows or send it back to them the day it arrived as tech support told me my only options were.

My problem was they gave me a POS power supply that would randomly die and thus randomly reboot my PC. sent it back to them and got a refund on it and bought a new one from frys.com fixed the problem.

[darkmessiah]

Weird, I found it perfect.

[Darkness]

Weird, I found it perfect.
Did you ever have to call tech support?
Did they run out of any parts on your build?


Check the testimonials of the paying people, dont let awards impress you.
http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/forum/forum_topics.asp?FID=37&SID=z2b48d299azc4691a91dc6f9z6392f81

[one of them]

My first gaming rig came from www.IBuyPower.com
They let you choose all the parts for a reasonable (not great, but reasonable) price. If you can have a friend who is a techy run you through some good (but cheap) parts on Newegg or something, you can go through IBuyPower's Configurator and simply choose all the parts you want. They will build it, install everything (windows, drivers, etc.), and then ship it to your exact location.
My first rig never had any problems and I bought it for under $800. It was actually an OKAY computer, but I upgraded it over the years to become what it is today.

Steve Cloud is actually planning on ordering his new rig from IBuyPower Australia too.

[darkmessiah]

Yeah, Cyberpowerpc is a sister company of Ibuypower.

http://www.ibuypower.com/

http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/

Compare!

[one of them]

I've had no problems whatsoever with IBuyPower. And they have a warranty.
Also, I almost forgot this old thread but Oblivion made a guide you might find interesting.
http://www.left4dead411.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3191&highlight=Oblivion+Guide
He goes through the hardware very well. Check it out and learn a few things about what you should look for.

[darkmessiah]

Me neither with Cyberpower.
Did you ever have to call tech support?
Did they run out of any parts on your build?


Check the testimonials of the paying people, dont let awards impress you.
http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/forum/forum_topics.asp?FID=37&SID=z2b48d299azc4691a91dc6f9z6392f81

Yeah, they ran out of the 9600GT I wanted, so they gave me an OC'd EVGA Brand.

http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4251&SID=9e3z87z79d69c7648e6d85d7f2z8c935

Teehee.

[DethPenguin]

Do not order from cyberpowerpc.com
My first gaming rig came from www.IBuyPower.com
They let you choose all the parts for a reasonable (not great, but reasonable) price
Weird, I found it perfect.

This is why I cant have nice things.

[darkmessiah]

INDECISION 2009: Will Deth get what he want? TUNE IN TOMORROW!

[DethPenguin]

Here's one (from IBuyPower)

Case
• Xion Dazl Gaming Tower Case w/420W Power Supply
Power Supply
• 650 Watt -- Casegears ECO-Element 80 Plus Certificated High Efficiency Power Supply SLI Ready
Processor
• AMD Athlon™ X2 6000+ Dual-Core CPU w/ HyperTransport Technology
Processor Cooling
• Certified CPU Fan and Heatsink
Motherboard
• Asus M3A78-CM AMD 780V/SB700 Chipset w/Integrated ATI video, 8-channels, Gb LAN, S-ATA Raid, USB 2.0, Single PCI-E MB
Memory
• 4 GB [2 GB X2] DDR2-800 PC6400 Memory Module Corsair-Value or Major Brand
Video Card
• NVIDIA GeForce 9800GTX+ 512MB w/DVI + TV Out Video
Video Card Brand
• Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA
Hard Drive
• 320 GB HARD DRIVE [Serial-ATA-II, 3Gb, 7200 RPM, 16M Cache]
CD-RW/DVD-RW Drive
• [** Special !!! ***] LG 22X Dual Format/Double Layer DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW Drive Black
Sound Card
• 3D Premium Surround Sound Onboard
Speaker System
• iBUYPOWER 2.1 Channel Stereo Super Bass Subwoofer Speaker System
Network Card
• Onboard LAN Network (Gb or 10/100)
Flash Media Reader/Writer
• 12-In-1 Internal Flash Media Card Reader/Writer Black
Operating System
• Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium + [Free 60-Day !!!] Microsoft Office 2007(Word, Excel, Outlook, PowerPoint, Access ....) 64-Bit
Headset
• SYBA Circumaural Stereo Headphone with Built-in Microphone
Warranty
• Warranty Service Standard 3-Year Limited Warranty + Lifetime Technical Support
Rush Service
• Rush Service Fee (not shipping fee) No Rush Service, Estimate Ship Out in 5~10 Business Day

About $739. Comments/Suggestions?
And by suggestions, do NOT want: "ORDER FROM SOMEWHERELSEROFLMAO"

[darkmessiah]

Try finding a more established brand for headphones.

Go to 5600+, as it's .1 GHz slower, and you can auto-clock it back up no problem, and you'll save money, and it uses only 60W instead of the 6000+ 130W

If you absolutely want it get 64, but I recommend 32.

[DethPenguin]

Try finding a more established brand for headphones.


Hey, you're not cheap like me.

[darkmessiah]

I just saved you a few bucks... wait for it... on a superior CPU.

And, get those Sony Studio headphones for 20 bucks at wal-mart. Not bad.

[DethPenguin]

I just saved you a few bucks... wait for it... on a superior CPU.

And, get those Sony Studio headphones for 20 bucks at wal-mart. Not bad.

There's no "5600+"

AMD Athlon™ X2 5000+ Dual-Core CPU w/ HyperTransport Technology
AMD Athlon™ X2 5200+ Dual-Core CPU w/ HyperTransport Technology
AMD Athlon™ X2 6000+ Dual-Core CPU w/ HyperTransport Technology
AMD Athlon™ X2 7750+ Black Edition Dual-Core CPU w/ HyperTransport Technology
AMD Athlon™ X2 7850+ Black Edition Dual-Core CPU w/ HyperTransport Technology

[darkmessiah]

That sucks, well nevermind, get the 6000 then.

[Sofaires]

do you know someone that can put together your pc if you buy the parts? you will get better parts for the price

[one of them]

I think I found a better website. I keep getting recommendations for it and haven't been able to find any bad things said about it.
www.avadirect.com (http://www.avadirect.com)

EDIT: Actually, it looks a bit pricey lol.

Let me try and build you a decent IBuyPower computer under $700.
Case ( [New !!!] AZZA Fantom 900 Gaming Tower Case w/420W Power Supply Black )
Case Lighting ( None )
Power Supply ( 500 Watt -- Power Supply )
Processor ( Intel Core 2 Duo Processor E8400 (2x 3.0GHz/6MB L2 Cache/1333FSB) )
Processor Cooling ( Certified CPU Fan and Heatsink )
Motherboard ( ASUS P5KPL-CM Intel G31 Chipset w/6-channels, Gb LAN, S-ATA 3Gb/s, USB 2.0, Single PCI-E MB )
Memory ( 2 GB [1 GB X2] DDR2-800 PC6400 Memory Module Corsair-Value or Major Brand )
Video Card ( NVIDIA GeForce 9800GT 1GB w/DVI + TV Out Video )
Video Card Brand ( === High Performance === eVGA Brand Video Card Powered by NVIDIA )
Hard Drive ( 500 GB HARD DRIVE [Serial-ATA-II, 3Gb, 7200 RPM, 16M Cache] )
2nd Hard Drive ( None )
External Hard Drives [USB 2.0/eSATA] ( None )
CD/DVD Drive ( None )
CD-RW/DVD-RW Drive ( [** Special !!! ***] LG 22X Dual Format/Double Layer DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW Drive Black )
Sound Card ( 3D Premium Surround Sound Onboard )
Speaker System ( None )
Network Card ( Onboard LAN Network (Gb or 10/100) )
Floppy Drive ( None )
Monitor ( None )
2nd Monitor ( None )
USB 2.0 Accessories ( Built-in USB 2.0 Ports )
Meter Display ( None )
Flash Media Reader/Writer ( 12-In-1 Internal Flash Media Card Reader/Writer Black )
Operating System ( Microsoft Windows Vista Home Basic + [Free 60-Day !!!] Microsoft Office 2007(Word, Excel, Outlook, PowerPoint, Access ....) 32-Bit )
Software/Game ( [Free Game] - Halo 2 Free with purchase of Microsoft Windows Vista operating system )
USB Flash Drive ( None )
MP3/MP4 Player ( None )
Video Camera ( None )
Headset ( None )
Power Protection ( None )
Warranty ( Warranty Service Standard 3-Year Limited Warranty + Lifetime Technical Support )
Rush Service - Rush Service Fee, No Rush Service, Estimate Ship Out in 5~10 Business Days

Total $751.00

That was about as decent as I could get. If you absolutely can NOT go over $700, you might need to save up a little longer. The system above has no keyboard, monitor, mouse, or speaker system. It IS able to run any game and get a good FPS though. The case also has good airflow (and it GLOWS).

[DethPenguin]

Dear DethPenguin,

Thank you for ordering from iBUYPOWER Computer, we are delighted to have you as a customer! Following is a list of your order and information. Please print this receipt from your printer and keep on file. If you can't find your order from our Web after 2 working days, please contact with us and fax us your printed receipt ASAP.

If you have chosen to pay for your order by credit card you may want to give your credit card company a call to let them know you are making a large purchase. Sometimes credit card companies will not authorize large credit card purchases for security purposes if such charges do not match your prior buying patterns.


So ends my journey.
Mod can lock now or smtn kthnx.