Smarter infected?

[caribblacktip]

Is it just me or are the infected getting smarter, namely the boomers, hunters, and smokers. the boomers seem to be getting better at finding spots to hide until you get close, the smokers seep to be getting better at finding cover, and recently, I encountered a hunter that waited under cover until we all had our backs turned, and then it pounced the farthest person back! I mean it waited a good minute or two until nobody was looking anymore! The tank, witch, and common infected seem the same, though. Has anyone else noticed this, or am I just paranoid?

[Mustacio]

the boomers seem to be getting better at finding spots to hide until you get close

yes like how they hide behind pillars that hide everything but their fat bellies.

[G_X]

Oh God... they can think... learn from their mistakes... evolve...

[Badboy]

Or maybe you're just playing xbox live. (or on live in pc)

[caribblacktip]

It was on pc and no, I wasn't playing on vs. I also wasn't playing at a higher difficulty than I usually do.

[Infest0125]

The AID at work trying to get them to spawn in different locations and wander away from common hiding spots maybe?

[caribblacktip]

The AID at work trying to get them to spawn in different locations and wander away from common hiding spots maybe?

What about the hunter who waited for an opportune moment?

[BaldingSteve]

They're changing.

[Thechuz]

goddammit bill aurgh!

[stev0hazard]

It STINKS.

[Eagle112]

*louis Laugh*

[theliberator1]

*boo hoo boo hoo*

Zoey says "Someones still alive" thinking it sounds like a woman, finally someone who can talk about something other than rape or penis.

[Stakhanov]

Or perhaps that was the work of a human director.

Hunters will automatically crouch when survivors are nearby , and obviously are very slow in this state. They will only leap when making eye contact , literally. So hunters may appear more clever in some places.

Boomers and smokers can also do the right thing at times , when survivors are at the right distance. Special infected's AI is very situational.

[Thechuz]

grabbin pills

[JediDwag]

Eh, I don't think they're getting any better. They were pretty good to begin with, but recently I've been noticing a lot of boomers accidentally suiciding recently. I'll hear one, and I'll be looking for it, and then I'll hear a boom and a puff of blood, and that's that. The bots aren't killing them either, because the red text crediting the kill doesn't appear.

[robbie158]

Lights off!

[Funky Biscuits]

Enough quoting from the game already.

[KingKon21]

I've notice now that when ever i play campaign, most of the time the hunters will pounce near me, and then start clawing me. Its starting to piss me off.

[Funky Biscuits]

I've notice now that when ever i play campaign, most of the time the hunters will pounce near me, and then start clawing me. Its starting to piss me off.

Yea, before they just used to pounce you.
Also Boomers hide more.

[KingKon21]

Also, smokers have been getting better with their tounges.

*wink*

[Funky Biscuits]

*wink*

Oh the Smoker Tounge Joke.
That hasnt been done before.

[mshield]

Also, smokers have been getting better with their tounges.

*wink*


Oh hohohoho, I see what you did there.

OT: Mabey it's your play style that has changed? More experience with the game has forced the AI to use different tactics to get you, rather than them just evolving.

Hunter is evolving!
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Hunter evolved into Wunter; the Witch that can pounce!

[caribblacktip]

Hunter is evolving!
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Hunter evolved into Wunter; the Witch that can pounce!

.......Snap.

[Keptron]

Maybe it is because of the patchs that Valve have been releasing or you have been just luck to they finally do something different ( not out of common ) .

[UKMD Elmo]

They're changing.

What did Bill mean by that anyway?

[tikoymann]

Eh, I don't think they're getting any better. They were pretty good to begin with, but recently I've been noticing a lot of boomers accidentally suiciding recently. I'll hear one, and I'll be looking for it, and then I'll hear a boom and a puff of blood, and that's that. The bots aren't killing them either, because the red text crediting the kill doesn't appear.

This happens when you are far enough from the special infected that the game decides to just kill it and respawn another one.

Or if it is a Tank, yes it happens to Tanks too, the difficulty for the survivors reaches peaks and the game decides to just let you rest in peace.

[Valcron]

I have happened to notice a few special infected acting a tad smarter than normal as of late. Then again, after playing versus a lot with GOOD people, I can't help but think the A.I. is lacking anymore.

I do find the Hunter prefering to claw over pounce is annoying as well. I've had plenty of times that a hunter comes and claws me in the midst of an infected raid and I take TONS of damage more than if he had simply pounced me and got knocked off by a friend.

[DoGZaO]

maybe you are just getting the stupider you know

[LordFluffington]

No. They're definitely playing smarter. I don't know if it's that Valve updated them or if Valve programmed them to learn, but they now do a lot of the stuff that zombies in Vs. do. They claw instead of pounce, the smokers instant-kill (BH1&2 and NM4, notably-- not even in just the tree spot. The AI found another spot to insta-kill!!(Bh1))
Though I have to say the boomer gets damn predictable on DA3 (construction site) It's always just around the corner to the left when you leave the alley to cross the st.)

[PSOLaguna]

if Valve programmed them to learn

They should really incorporate that towards something other than games to make some actual money. Oh but wait, then theyd take over the world, dang.

[fishing4ducks]

Ive noticed that they seem to be getting better at ambushing, It's madness I tell you! maaaaaaddddddnnnneeeeeesssssssss!

[Redgoon23]

DoGZaO your avatar is disturbing.

[PSOLaguna]

It's madness I tell you! maaaaaaddddddnnnneeeeeesssssssss!

http://img19.picoodle.com/img/img19/3/2/23/f_300spartarem_deafc8e.gif (http://img19.picoodle.com/img/img19/3/2/23/f_300spartarem_deafc8e.gif)

[cascillaKILLAH]

Actually I've had the Infected make plenty of "traps". Like for instance NM4, I was the last survivor running from a tank on Expert. Course it was after the elevator so I was zigzaggin through the walls and junk, so I figure hell if I can make it in the safe room it'll be all good. So I bolt it to the safe room, run inside, close the door....Thenn all at once I get pulled by a smoker, vomited on by the boomer, then a hunter punces me. I'm like WTF.

[Von Beck]

I've been noticing more and more common infected ducking and shit I will go to shoot and they will duck or I'll go to melee and they will duck so I'm like wtf now I shoot their legs s'all good

[FaceGrater]

I haven't noticed anything to different. But something did happen once on expert not too long ago, though i think it was coincidence. It was the Dead Finale on expert, and we were on our second tank. We were in the open area by that closet and a smoker grabbed me from on top one of the planes. My team mates couldn't get to me but the tank could. He ran a bit towards me, stopped, and through a rock at me while i was dangling by the smokers tongue. It killed me and I just said "What the Fuck?!?!"

Still, i think it was a coincidence.

[Infest0125]

They do know calculus.....

[FaceGrater]

They do know calculus.....

You know, i thought I saw a smoker with an abacus in his hand once.

[Infest0125]

That isn't much, I've seen a hunter actually map out his pounce equations before jumping.

How else would he land almost directly on a survivor about everytime? See the hunters that miss are the stupid ones who forgot to carry the 4 in the equation.

[Jacks Murderous Grin]

"old man, use your medkit."

[awdrgy123]

Oh God... they can think... learn from their mistakes... evolve...
THEY'VE FUCKING LEARNED HOW TO KICK AND BAN!!

[Hon3r]

"I hate hospitals."

OT: Didn't the update alter some of the AI's behaviour? Where's that list of what the patch did?

...Or maybe you're playing on a harder difficulty.

[FaceGrater]

That isn't much, I've seen a hunter actually map out his pounce equations before jumping.

How else would he land almost directly on a survivor about everytime? See the hunters that miss are the stupid ones who forgot to carry the 4 in the equation.


Someone should make a custom spray with some mathematics of a hunter jump or something. Spray it on walls or and stuff.

[jester619]

Someone should make a custom spray with some mathematics of a hunter jump or something. Spray it on walls or and stuff.


wtf?! are you serious?! then well have super smart and accurate hunters!! talk about aiding the enemy...sheesh

[FaceGrater]

wtf?! are you serious?! then well have super smart and accurate hunters!! talk about aiding the enemy...sheesh

Your Right. THey may not be able to open doors. But damn they are good at math